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Post#1481 » by BroncoBuck » Fri Nov 15, 2024 12:36 am

Pat is one of the only players with versatility on the roster. He can play 1-4. Can he play 1-4 well? Hell no, but at least he gives you an option in spurts dependent on what the other team is going with. He’s always been streaky as a shooter, I’d expect him to have a batch of games coming up where he doesn’t miss. This team has too many guys who can only play one position and one brand of basketball.

I wouldn’t throw Pat away to duck the apron, but he’s obviously not untouchable.
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Post#1482 » by PANDEMONEUM » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:11 am

i am now with the mindset and preference,
that the Bucks should NOT make any moves.
dont fire Doc.
dont make any trades.
and lets figure out the mess in the offseason.
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i prefer going for cap space in 2026 or 2027.
then we can offer a Max $ deal and another big $ offer.

let $ expire, and if guys dont want to return for the minimum, thats fine.
midds 34$ player option. i hope he takes it. and if an extension happens for less/decreasing $.
brook 23$ expiring. hes welcomed for one more season, but, at the minimum.
bobby 13$ player option. if anyone offers him more $ and he wans to leave, then thats what happens. if he picks it up and stays, also fine.
pat 9$ player option. hes picking that up.
marjon 2.7$, gone. dont think theyd keep him even for the minimum.
gary 2.6$ even tho he hasnt performed well so far, id take him back for that $.
Rollins currently on a 2way deal.
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theres no trade thats going to fix the current team.
just let this group stay together and whatever happens, happens.
since we dont have draft picks til 2031, wer gonna have to find FAs.
for the league or vet minimums, until we can clear $.
then we can have 1 off season with the most $ to offer.
to pair with a 33yro Giannis.
and whichever of the youngsters is left.
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Post#1483 » by JEIS » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:26 am

Sign Alpha Kaba to a two way deal.
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Post#1484 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Nov 15, 2024 1:32 am

JEIS wrote:Sign Alpha Kaba to a two way deal.


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Post#1487 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:37 am

Dame analogy. September 1997 Bucks deal Vin Baker for Terrell Brandon and Tyrone Hill. Baker at the time only in the league four years, prior three was an all star. He had massive trade value. But they knew he had the alcohol problem. Turns out sold high.

18-months later at March 1999 trade deadline, new coach Karl says we need something different here. Brandon dealt for Sam Cassell (was a large blockbuster). Team doesn’t look back, as Cassell a much better fit.

Feel like there has to be a deal out there like this for Dame. A 1 for 2 deal where we get a better fitting PG and a very good frontcourt player.
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Post#1488 » by Jackhammer3375 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:47 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Dame analogy. September 1997 Bucks deal Vin Baker for Terrell Brandon and Tyrone Hill. Baker at the time only in the league four years, prior three was an all star. He had massive trade value. But they knew he had the alcohol problem. Turns out sold high.

18-months later at March 1999 trade deadline, new coach Karl says we need something different here. Brandon dealt for Sam Cassell (was a large blockbuster). Team doesn’t look back, as Cassell a much better fit.

Feel like there has to be a deal out there like this for Dame. A 1 for 2 deal where we get a better fitting PG and a very good frontcourt player.


If Houston wants to make a splash... Dame for FVV, Eason and one of their many future 1sts.
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Post#1489 » by RiotPunch » Fri Nov 15, 2024 2:53 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:Dame analogy. September 1997 Bucks deal Vin Baker for Terrell Brandon and Tyrone Hill. Baker at the time only in the league four years, prior three was an all star. He had massive trade value. But they knew he had the alcohol problem. Turns out sold high.

18-months later at March 1999 trade deadline, new coach Karl says we need something different here. Brandon dealt for Sam Cassell (was a large blockbuster). Team doesn’t look back, as Cassell a much better fit.

Feel like there has to be a deal out there like this for Dame. A 1 for 2 deal where we get a better fitting PG and a very good frontcourt player.


If Houston wants to make a splash... Dame for FVV, Eason and one of their many future 1sts.

This is the deal I posted several pages ago. Unfortunately, Eason is playing his way out of being available. He's been awesome. Likely would have to settle for Whitmore, which doesn't do quite as much for me.
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Post#1490 » by Licensed to Il » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:03 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:Dame analogy. September 1997 Bucks deal Vin Baker for Terrell Brandon and Tyrone Hill. Baker at the time only in the league four years, prior three was an all star. He had massive trade value. But they knew he had the alcohol problem. Turns out sold high.

18-months later at March 1999 trade deadline, new coach Karl says we need something different here. Brandon dealt for Sam Cassell (was a large blockbuster). Team doesn’t look back, as Cassell a much better fit.

Feel like there has to be a deal out there like this for Dame. A 1 for 2 deal where we get a better fitting PG and a very good frontcourt player.


If Houston wants to make a splash... Dame for FVV, Eason and one of their many future 1sts.

This is the deal I posted several pages ago. Unfortunately, Eason is playing his way out of being available. He's been awesome. Likely would have to settle for Whitmore, which doesn't do quite as much for me.


I think Houston is willing to “buy high” on a perennial all nba type guy.
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Post#1491 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:04 am

FVV absolutely blows. Is Eason and a bad first good enough? I do like Eason, but that's not super enticing IMO.

Dame isn't working for us, but... :-?
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Post#1492 » by RiotPunch » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:06 am

MikeIsGood wrote:FVV absolutely blows. Is Eason and a bad first good enough? I do like Eason, but that's not super enticing IMO.

Dame isn't working for us, but

Ideally, you find a third team for FVV. I think he could possibly round into form playing off of Giannis, though. I would want at least two 1sts out of Houston as well.
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Post#1493 » by benultimate » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:18 am

Feel Houston is the right trade partner, but I'd be thinking lower stakes. What do we need to add in a Bobby for Jabari Smith deal? Throw in a handful of seconds? (which I know we don't currently have)
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Post#1494 » by RiotPunch » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:22 am

benultimate wrote:Feel Houston is the right trade partner, but I'd be thinking lower stakes. What do we need to add in a Bobby for Jabari Smith deal? Throw in a handful of seconds? (which I know we don't currently have)

He's been underwhelming, but still would likely require the '31 1st attached to Bobby.
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Post#1495 » by fansinceforever » Fri Nov 15, 2024 3:22 am

Eason looks amazing right now. If we want FVV too, We'd probably have to target some of their other guys. Smith Jr., Reed Sheppard maybe.
Whitmore got demoted to the G league so maybe we could grab him in the deal too.

Probably better deals out there at this point.
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Post#1496 » by midranger » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:09 am

We needed to be in on Eason over the summer. Many people on that one
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Post#1497 » by humanrefutation » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:28 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Dame analogy. September 1997 Bucks deal Vin Baker for Terrell Brandon and Tyrone Hill. Baker at the time only in the league four years, prior three was an all star. He had massive trade value. But they knew he had the alcohol problem. Turns out sold high.

18-months later at March 1999 trade deadline, new coach Karl says we need something different here. Brandon dealt for Sam Cassell (was a large blockbuster). Team doesn’t look back, as Cassell a much better fit.

Feel like there has to be a deal out there like this for Dame. A 1 for 2 deal where we get a better fitting PG and a very good frontcourt player.


I believe the Bucks biggest issue with Brandon at the time was his prolific injury record and his unwillingness to sign an extension. He was quite good in Milwaukee when he played. I don't think it was a "fit" issue.

We also moved Tyrone Hill in that deal and got back Scott Williams and Tim Thomas, two key parts of our 2001 team.
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Post#1498 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:58 am

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I believe the Bucks biggest issue with Brandon at the time was his prolific injury record and his unwillingness to sign an extension. He was quite good in Milwaukee when he played. I don't think it was a "fit" issue.


I count many aspects into “fit”. Lot of questions of Brandon dogging it with the injuries. Bottom line, George Karl didn’t think he was a winner, and traded for a guy who was. People’s mileage varies greatly on Dame. I personally don’t see it happening here, and his play will likely drop off a cliff in two years due to age.

We could afford to blow our wad (trade assets, big contract, Dame at age 33) when it looked like Dame would be the missing piece to a Title. I don’t think he’s that anymore, and this team can’t afford to let that asset depreciate to zero over the next 24-months.
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Post#1499 » by yb90 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:05 am

I am not an advocate for trading Dame at this point but if they did do it. I think they need to go big and try to include Lopez and Portis to get younger.

Hou - Dame, Lopez, and Livingston

UTA - Bobby, FVV, Marjon, and future Hou 1sts

MIL - Sexton, Collins, Kessler(Sensabaugh), Brooks and Whittmore or Landale

This would be a huge shift and moves away from stars but the defense and athleticism would go sky high. Kessler maybe asking too much so Sensabaugh could be a substitute.

In my dream scenario and the 1st trade maybe dreaming but..

Hou - Dame, Lopez, and Livingson

UTA - FVV, Portis, Marjon, and future Hou and Mil picks

MIL - Sheppard, Landale, Tate, Sexton, Collins, and Kessler(Sensabaugh)

In both trades all teams are 1st apron teams with Houston being hard capped. Plus, MIL would have to cut a player, probably Wright.
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Post#1500 » by randy84 » Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:44 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Dame analogy. September 1997 Bucks deal Vin Baker for Terrell Brandon and Tyrone Hill. Baker at the time only in the league four years, prior three was an all star. He had massive trade value. But they knew he had the alcohol problem. Turns out sold high.

18-months later at March 1999 trade deadline, new coach Karl says we need something different here. Brandon dealt for Sam Cassell (was a large blockbuster). Team doesn’t look back, as Cassell a much better fit.

Feel like there has to be a deal out there like this for Dame. A 1 for 2 deal where we get a better fitting PG and a very good frontcourt player.


Are you sure you have the right Bucks analogy. I seem to remember the Bucks trading Ray Allen for a defensive stopper in Gary Payton and a young prospect in Desmond Mason. Neither one were ever as good as Ray. And the reason for trading Ray....he wasn't a good fit.

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