Steph Curry is still a monster. Who wants to trade him now?

[vvoland]

No. Dumb is calling for Lauri to save us and willing to mortgage the entire future for the privilege. Dumb is saying this team is treadmilling because they couldn't trade for a Fin that enjoys losing 60 games per season because he has a pretty shot. Dumb is saying to move off Steph because "it's better to trade him and rebuild."

Just take the L on this one. We've all had bad takes, this is just one that was immediately proven to be ridiculous

That dude's never going to admit he was wrong until the Warriors hoist the trophy. And even then he'll find some nonsense argument as to why his logic was right and so he was only wrong as a consequence of bad luck or some other BS. He's staked all his claims on Kerr or Kuminga or Podz(or whomever the target of his hate du jour is) not actually being good at their jobs no matter how successful the outcome is. He's the only guy on the board that is happy when the team does poorly and glum and irritated when the team does well. He's staked everything on being a contrarian no matter what the evidence shows, which is why he's so intolerable.

Nah I'd happily eat crow if that happened, just like I have in the past for other dumb takes I've made. That's the difference between you and I.

Of course I don't just automatically fellate and defend the FO/coaching staff for everything, and thus have never said anything so mind-bendingly stupid like your quote in my sig (which three different people from general board messaged me to confirm it was real btw LOL)

Wait, so are you currently eating crow considering how well Wigs is playing and how poorly Lauri has started out? Or the fact that the team is clearly good enough to compete (not saying they'll win) and we're not "wasting curry's remaining years" or whatever nonsense you were preaching when the Lauri deal fell through? You can't possibly think adding that defensive sieve at the expense of moving wigs, podz, jk and picks was actually a good idea? Right? RIGHT?!?!?!?!

[whatisacenter]

That dude's never going to admit he was wrong until the Warriors hoist the trophy. And even then he'll find some nonsense argument as to why his logic was right and so he was only wrong as a consequence of bad luck or some other BS. He's staked all his claims on Kerr or Kuminga or Podz(or whomever the target of his hate du jour is) not actually being good at their jobs no matter how successful the outcome is. He's the only guy on the board that is happy when the team does poorly and glum and irritated when the team does well. He's staked everything on being a contrarian no matter what the evidence shows, which is why he's so intolerable.

Nah I'd happily eat crow if that happened, just like I have in the past for other dumb takes I've made. That's the difference between you and I.

Of course I don't just automatically fellate and defend the FO/coaching staff for everything, and thus have never said anything so mind-bendingly stupid like your quote in my sig (which three different people from general board messaged me to confirm it was real btw LOL)

Wait, so are you currently eating crow considering how well Wigs is playing and how poorly Lauri has started out? Or the fact that the team is clearly good enough to compete (not saying they'll win) and we're not "wasting curry's remaining years" or whatever nonsense you were preaching when the Lauri deal fell through? You can't possibly think adding that defensive sieve at the expense of moving wigs, podz, jk and picks was actually a good idea? Right? RIGHT?!?!?!?!

They either win the championship or they are a treadmill team...there is no inbetween.

[michaelm]

I don't have the brain of a hedgehog so I don't say monstrously stupid ****

like I said I come by every once in a while to get nerds like you exactly this triggered

Cognitive dissonance much?

i like how you think constantly following me around and looking through my profile for old posts somehow disproves the fact you're easily triggered and have mental health issues

Also you don't know what cognitive dissonance means. or maybe you did 40 years ago but have forgotten it.

And you fairly clearly don’t know what mental health issues are.

I agree the common perception of cognitive dissonance is not what the actual definition of same is, something rather more abstruse and not of great relevance to much imo.

I am a fan of Kerr in general and his player management has bought 4 titles, more of a dynasty than most coaches manage, and fairly unexpected for someone like me who boarded the GSW bandwagon with Andrew Bogut. I don’t see how anyone can excuse his coaching and particularly his rotations for the most recent two previous seasons, but perhaps that was related to him being given a roster which didn’t suit him and which was quite possibly significantly influenced by amateurs in the front office.

The 4th title was quite unexpected even though still within the Curry era, and I see no reason not to enjoy the moment now and even hold out vague hopes of a repeat of 2022. I would give them some chance against the Celtics on current form, not so much against the roster the Cavs have.

[Jester_]

That dude's never going to admit he was wrong until the Warriors hoist the trophy. And even then he'll find some nonsense argument as to why his logic was right and so he was only wrong as a consequence of bad luck or some other BS. He's staked all his claims on Kerr or Kuminga or Podz(or whomever the target of his hate du jour is) not actually being good at their jobs no matter how successful the outcome is. He's the only guy on the board that is happy when the team does poorly and glum and irritated when the team does well. He's staked everything on being a contrarian no matter what the evidence shows, which is why he's so intolerable.

Nah I'd happily eat crow if that happened, just like I have in the past for other dumb takes I've made. That's the difference between you and I.

Of course I don't just automatically fellate and defend the FO/coaching staff for everything, and thus have never said anything so mind-bendingly stupid like your quote in my sig (which three different people from general board messaged me to confirm it was real btw LOL)

Wait, so are you currently eating crow considering how well Wigs is playing and how poorly Lauri has started out? Or the fact that the team is clearly good enough to compete (not saying they'll win) and we're not "wasting curry's remaining years" or whatever nonsense you were preaching when the Lauri deal fell through? You can't possibly think adding that defensive sieve at the expense of moving wigs, podz, jk and picks was actually a good idea? Right? RIGHT?!?!?!?!

Why would I "eat crow" 10 games in? We started last year 6-2. We haven't done jack **** yet.

Yes, if we win a championship this year then me and anyone else who advocated for the Lauri trade would be wrong. Making this thread 10 games in because we beat a .500 team at home by 2 points just makes y'all look pathetic

so sad lmao

[Jester_]

Cognitive dissonance much?

i like how you think constantly following me around and looking through my profile for old posts somehow disproves the fact you're easily triggered and have mental health issues

Also you don't know what cognitive dissonance means. or maybe you did 40 years ago but have forgotten it.

And you fairly clearly don’t know what mental health issues are.

I would describe spending hours digging through a random internet stranger's comments from years ago and following them around because their comments upset you so much as a mental health issue but what do I know

[CDM_Stats]

They either win the championship or they are a treadmill team...there is no inbetween.

Contending, rebuilding, or wasting time

[michaelm]

i like how you think constantly following me around and looking through my profile for old posts somehow disproves the fact you're easily triggered and have mental health issues

Also you don't know what cognitive dissonance means. or maybe you did 40 years ago but have forgotten it.

And you fairly clearly don’t know what mental health issues are.

I would describe spending hours digging through a random internet stranger's comments from years ago and following them around because their comments upset you so much as a mental health issue but what do I know

I know enough to know it is difficult to make such diagnoses remotely.

Anyhow, I guess your ad hominem was in answer to ad hominem, and while I never look at old threads and posts I don’t recall you being one of those who still found fault with the team in 2017 when they were quite possibly the best team ever.

Imo 4 titles even with a talent like Curry is pretty good. LeBron only has 4 and he is supposed to be in the GOAT conversation, and his were also for 3 different teams; 4 for my team floats my boat more. As a non Curry and GSW fan said on the GB the NBA is perhaps lucky GSW didn’t nail their recent lottery picks though. I see anything from now as a bonus, as i also saw the 2022 title, however.

[Jester_]

And you fairly clearly don’t know what mental health issues are.

I would describe spending hours digging through a random internet stranger's comments from years ago and following them around because their comments upset you so much as a mental health issue but what do I know

I know enough to know it is difficult to make such diagnoses remotely.

Anyhow, I guess your ad hominem was in answer to ad hominem, and while I never look at old threads and posts I don’t recall you being one of those who still found fault with the team in 2017 when they were quite possibly the best team ever.

Imo 4 titles even with a talent like Curry is pretty good, LeBron only has 4 and he is supposed to be in the GOAT conversation and they were also for 3 different teams; 4 for my team floats my boat more. As a non Curry and GSW fan said on the GB the NBA is perhaps lucky GSW didn’t nail their recent lottery picks though. I see anything from now as a bonus, as i also saw the 2022 title, though.

My position on Kerr has always been pretty simple: he is, as a coach, what he was as a GM - non-remarkable. Bob Myers is the same. That doesn't mean either of them are bad... it means they're average, and more talented people could have gotten a lot more out of the situation.

I also complimented Kerr in 2022 and publicly said he thoroughly outcoached Udoka. Unfortunately some people here take life very seriously so if you aren't giving the organization a reach-around every other post they get upset lol.

I have fun though. The internet blows nowadays... RealGM is still a nice little throwback to the early days, including the crochety farts on this thread. They don't like me but I do appreciate them (even the stalker). Not a lot of other Warriors fans around since I moved to Asia.

[GQ Hot Dog]

No. Dumb is calling for Lauri to save us and willing to mortgage the entire future for the privilege. Dumb is saying this team is treadmilling because they couldn't trade for a Fin that enjoys losing 60 games per season because he has a pretty shot. Dumb is saying to move off Steph because "it's better to trade him and rebuild."

Just take the L on this one. We've all had bad takes, this is just one that was immediately proven to be ridiculous

That dude's never going to admit he was wrong until the Warriors hoist the trophy. And even then he'll find some nonsense argument as to why his logic was right and so he was only wrong as a consequence of bad luck or some other BS. He's staked all his claims on Kerr or Kuminga or Podz(or whomever the target of his hate du jour is) not actually being good at their jobs no matter how successful the outcome is. He's the only guy on the board that is happy when the team does poorly and glum and irritated when the team does well. He's staked everything on being a contrarian no matter what the evidence shows, which is why he's so intolerable.

Nah I'd happily eat crow if that happened, just like I have in the past for other dumb takes I've made. That's the difference between you and I.

Of course I don't just automatically fellate and defend the FO/coaching staff for everything, and thus have never said anything so mind-bendingly stupid like your quote in my sig (which three different people from general board messaged me to confirm it was real btw LOL)

I would be more than happy to explain exactly what I meant when I said what you show in your sig, but you nor any other of the three different people from the general board, has ever asked me.

I define talent strictly as physical abilities. Speed, quickness, explosiveness, strength, length, height, etc. The teams Kerr has had and won championships with were remarkable for how little talent(physical abilities) his players had. Steph is probably the premiere below-average athlete all-time great ever. Klay has decent size, he's not at all explosive, he's not blessed with great foot speed, he's not long, and he's overall a below average quick-twitch athlete. Draymond has solid core strength and nice long arms, but he's undersized for his position and a below average athlete, particularly for his role as a defensive centerpiece. I could go on and on with all the important Warriors players over the years but the common denominator is that Kerr always won his championships with players with below average talent(physical abilities).

KD is the main outlier as his combination of length, quickness and balance is truly extraordinary. Iguodala is also a plus athlete, but he didn't get to the Warriors until age 30, past his physical prime.

So you can quote me, but since you provide absolutely no context, it carries no weight.

[Jester_]

That dude's never going to admit he was wrong until the Warriors hoist the trophy. And even then he'll find some nonsense argument as to why his logic was right and so he was only wrong as a consequence of bad luck or some other BS. He's staked all his claims on Kerr or Kuminga or Podz(or whomever the target of his hate du jour is) not actually being good at their jobs no matter how successful the outcome is. He's the only guy on the board that is happy when the team does poorly and glum and irritated when the team does well. He's staked everything on being a contrarian no matter what the evidence shows, which is why he's so intolerable.

Nah I'd happily eat crow if that happened, just like I have in the past for other dumb takes I've made. That's the difference between you and I.

Of course I don't just automatically fellate and defend the FO/coaching staff for everything, and thus have never said anything so mind-bendingly stupid like your quote in my sig (which three different people from general board messaged me to confirm it was real btw LOL)

I would be more than happy to explain exactly what I meant when I said what you show in your sig, but you nor any other of the three different people from the general board, has ever asked me.

I define talent strictly as physical abilities. Speed, quickness, explosiveness, strength, length, height, etc. The teams Kerr has had and won championships with were remarkable for how little talent(physical abilities) his players had. Steph is probably the premiere below-average athlete all-time great ever. Klay has decent size, he's not at all explosive, he's not blessed with great foot speed, he's not long, and he's overall a below average quick-twitch athlete. Draymond has solid core strength and nice long arms, but he's undersized for his position and a below average athlete, particularly for his role as a defensive centerpiece. I could go on and on with all the important Warriors players over the years but the common denominator is that Kerr always won his championships with players with below average talent(physical abilities).

KD is the main outlier as his combination of length, quickness and balance is truly extraordinary. Iguodala is also a plus athlete, but he didn't get to the Warriors until age 30, past his physical prime.

So you can quote me, but since you provide absolutely no context, it carries no weight.

.....

My god this post might be even more ridiculous than your original comment

[GQ Hot Dog]

Nah I'd happily eat crow if that happened, just like I have in the past for other dumb takes I've made. That's the difference between you and I.

Of course I don't just automatically fellate and defend the FO/coaching staff for everything, and thus have never said anything so mind-bendingly stupid like your quote in my sig (which three different people from general board messaged me to confirm it was real btw LOL)

I would be more than happy to explain exactly what I meant when I said what you show in your sig, but you nor any other of the three different people from the general board, has ever asked me.

I define talent strictly as physical abilities. Speed, quickness, explosiveness, strength, length, height, etc. The teams Kerr has had and won championships with were remarkable for how little talent(physical abilities) his players had. Steph is probably the premiere below-average athlete all-time great ever. Klay has decent size, he's not at all explosive, he's not blessed with great foot speed, he's not long, and he's overall a below average quick-twitch athlete. Draymond has solid core strength and nice long arms, but he's undersized for his position and a below average athlete, particularly for his role as a defensive centerpiece. I could go on and on with all the important Warriors players over the years but the common denominator is that Kerr always won his championships with players with below average talent(physical abilities).

KD is the main outlier as his combination of length, quickness and balance is truly extraordinary. Iguodala is also a plus athlete, but he didn't get to the Warriors until age 30, past his physical prime.

So you can quote me, but since you provide absolutely no context, it carries no weight.

.....

My god this post might be even more ridiculous than your original comment

Well. I'm guessing you've never been the captain of a debate squad.

[Old_Blue]

Well. I'm guessing you've never been the captain of a debate squad.

So, he's not a captain debater. But, he has indicated that he's a master debater.

I don't just automatically fellate and defend the FO/coaching staff for everything...

[Onus]

Watch on YouTube

[WarriorGM]

Watch on YouTube

That is the kind of analysis and hype that I would find natural in covering Curry given what he has done and is doing. What I find unnatural is that you don't hear much like it from the more established media sources.

Curry has been the most watched player, just look at Youtube game highlights to see those of Warriors games consistently being the most watched, so it is not for lack of popularity that he isn't being hyped even further.

[EvanZ]

I don't regret saying I'd trade him. We'd have gotten a huge haul and a chance at Cooper Flagg sweepstakes. Counterfactuals are tough. Who's to say that world doesn't turn out to be the better one. I mean sure if we win a title this season I'd stipulate to taking the L. But short of that, I don't think I'd take anything back that I said.

I would also point out that literally nobody here was arguing to not trade Steph because this currently constructed team was going to start the season 9-2 and possibly be top 4 in the West. I am almost certain not a single soul here or anywhere thought that and certainly none that put it in writing. So while you may choose to call out those who proposed trading Steph, you are just being a hypocrite and turned out AT BEST to take the lucky side of the coin flip. There was no grand strategy any of you all had other than "I just want to see Steph end his career as a Warriors. I don't care if they suck."

[GQ Hot Dog]

Watch on YouTube

That is the kind of analysis and hype that I would find natural in covering Curry given what he has done and is doing. What I find unnatural is that you don't hear much like it from the more established media sources.

Curry has been the most watched player, just look at Youtube game highlights to see those of Warriors games consistently being the most watched, so it is not for lack of popularity that he isn't being hyped even further.

My instincts tell me it's because Curry's rise wasn't accompanied by a massive media and corporate sponsorship campaign like with MJ and Lebron. The careers of the latter two were tied at the hip to huge corporate profits.

With Curry, UA stood to make the most money, but even after all these year their market cap is $4 billion compared to $114 billion for Nike. I always got the impression that the greater corporate landscape would have preferred to treat Curry's career with relative disinterest compared to other super popular sports figures. They only grudgingly embraced Steph and only because the fanbase did in their masses.

[GQ Hot Dog]

I don't regret saying I'd trade him. We'd have gotten a huge haul and a chance at Cooper Flagg sweepstakes. Counterfactuals are tough. Who's to say that world doesn't turn out to be the better one. I mean sure if we win a title this season I'd stipulate to taking the L. But short of that, I don't think I'd take anything back that I said.

I would also point out that literally nobody here was arguing to not trade Steph because this currently constructed team was going to start the season 9-2 and possibly be top 4 in the West. I am almost certain not a single soul here or anywhere thought that and certainly none that put it in writing. So while you may choose to call out those who proposed trading Steph, you are just being a hypocrite and turned out AT BEST to take the lucky side of the coin flip. There was no grand strategy any of you all had other than "I just want to see Steph end his career as a Warriors. I don't care if they suck."

I am not calling anyone out, it's just not my style. I wish everyone felt free to post their opinions without feeling the need to guard against being wrong from the more antagonistic personalities on the board. But...

I definitely stated more than a few times that I thought depth was the new championship formula and that Dunleavy leaning into it so heavily with the three FA acquisitions and showing the discipline to not move on from our young talent for Markkanen was going to place us in the ranks of championship contender this season. So the Warriors being this good was definitely not unforeseen.

[wco81]

As much as they might want to plan for life after Curry, they probably won't find another franchise player until after he retires.

Maybe years after he retires.

Odds are he won't be as good, but doesn't mean he can't be MVP-level, though that's really uncertain.

Jokic is unexpectedly great, relative to where he was drafted.

Actually Giannis wasn't drafted that high either.

Nor was SGA, relative to where he was drafted and what he is now as an MVP-level player.

Luka was drafted top 5 but the teams which drafted other players above him screwed up.

In any event, unless we get NFL-style parity like Adam Silver wants, it make be another decade after Curry retires before the Warriors are relevant again.

[Scoots1994]

I would be more than happy to explain exactly what I meant when I said what you show in your sig, but you nor any other of the three different people from the general board, has ever asked me.

I define talent strictly as physical abilities. Speed, quickness, explosiveness, strength, length, height, etc. The teams Kerr has had and won championships with were remarkable for how little talent(physical abilities) his players had. Steph is probably the premiere below-average athlete all-time great ever. Klay has decent size, he's not at all explosive, he's not blessed with great foot speed, he's not long, and he's overall a below average quick-twitch athlete. Draymond has solid core strength and nice long arms, but he's undersized for his position and a below average athlete, particularly for his role as a defensive centerpiece. I could go on and on with all the important Warriors players over the years but the common denominator is that Kerr always won his championships with players with below average talent(physical abilities).

KD is the main outlier as his combination of length, quickness and balance is truly extraordinary. Iguodala is also a plus athlete, but he didn't get to the Warriors until age 30, past his physical prime.

So you can quote me, but since you provide absolutely no context, it carries no weight.

.....

My god this post might be even more ridiculous than your original comment

Well. I'm guessing you've never been the captain of a debate squad.

*Mic drop*

[Jester_]

I don't regret saying I'd trade him. We'd have gotten a huge haul and a chance at Cooper Flagg sweepstakes. Counterfactuals are tough. Who's to say that world doesn't turn out to be the better one. I mean sure if we win a title this season I'd stipulate to taking the L. But short of that, I don't think I'd take anything back that I said.

I would also point out that literally nobody here was arguing to not trade Steph because this currently constructed team was going to start the season 9-2 and possibly be top 4 in the West. I am almost certain not a single soul here or anywhere thought that and certainly none that put it in writing. So while you may choose to call out those who proposed trading Steph, you are just being a hypocrite and turned out AT BEST to take the lucky side of the coin flip. There was no grand strategy any of you all had other than "I just want to see Steph end his career as a Warriors. I don't care if they suck."

ya.... and friendly reminder that 9-2 doesn't mean ****. we haven't beaten a single good team at full strength yet lol