PG: Knicks -Nets 11-15-24

[MrDollarBills]

We have an excellent set of rookies

Amazing job drafting them all with higher picks

Huk, Kolek and Dadier are all legit and have hoops in their blood

Questions about our depth could mostly be answered by mid-season if Thibs ups their playing time to gain experience

Good scouting is critical for top cap heavy teams to get rotation pieces at low cost. So far, so good, but it's also on the coaching staff to develop them and the coach to give them enough room to grow, make mistakes and learn.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Huk the best player to wear number 55 since Kiki

You already have him past Dikembe?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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Held them 3-11 from 3 as well. There's really no reason why he shouldn't be starting at C for us.

Tom is not going to start a rookie over Josh.

[Galou]

I want to see Ariel Hukporti play some more yo

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[Moose]

If Huk can keep this up, trading Mitch becomes something they have to do, specifically for another wing or a steadier bench scorer. Having someone on the roster that eats a salary spot that won't play till February makes no sense.

I think we need Mitch to be Mitch when he comes back so we can play Towns at the 4.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I want to see Ariel Hukporti play some more yo

Word2burger

More Pacman too, he did more in that one little stretch than Matt Ryan has done with his time.

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[3toheadmelo]

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Held them 3-11 from 3 as well. There's really no reason why he shouldn't be starting at C for us.

Tom is not going to start a rookie over Josh.

Probably not, but Thibs deep down knows we need a rim protector badly. He said this last month about Mitch after we got KAT. Sounds to me his plan is to start Mitch with KAT when he comes back.

“You’re going to take it step by step,” Thibodeau said about Robinson starting when/if he comes back. “First thing is to get him back and see where he is. I like the versatility he gives us. We won a lot of games with our rebounding last year. We know he’s elite. Offensive rebounder, probably the best in the league. Defensive rebounding. Rim protection. Pick and roll defense. Those are things he adds to the team.”

He already gave Huk 30 mins last night. That's a rare sign for a rookie. Huk might force his hand like he did last night. All of Thibs successful teams had a rim protector. And some more stats from last night: Opponents shot 28% at the rim when Huk contested.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

If Huk can keep this up, trading Mitch becomes something they have to do, specifically for another wing or a steadier bench scorer. Having someone on the roster that eats a salary spot that won't play till February makes no sense.

I think we need Mitch to be Mitch when he comes back so we can play Towns at the 4.

I actually think Precious is the one we should keep; he's the guy that has the potential to unlock the team's smallball lineups. If it's just about playing KAT at the 4 next to some big, then why haven't we done it yet with him and Sims or Huk?


I don't like the idea of relying on Mitch, especially not after the trade deadline passes. If Huk keeps playing like this it makes Mitch expendable, and I'd rather move him for someone I'm confident will be able to play from February to June. How many more times can people say "Wait till Mitch comes back" before it's too much?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Held them 3-11 from 3 as well. There's really no reason why he shouldn't be starting at C for us.

Tom is not going to start a rookie over Josh.

Probably not, but Thibs deep down knows we need a rim protector badly. He said this last month about Mitch after we got KAT. Sounds to me his plan is to start Mitch with KAT when he comes back.

“You’re going to take it step by step,” Thibodeau said about Robinson starting when/if he comes back. “First thing is to get him back and see where he is. I like the versatility he gives us. We won a lot of games with our rebounding last year. We know he’s elite. Offensive rebounder, probably the best in the league. Defensive rebounding. Rim protection. Pick and roll defense. Those are things he adds to the team.”

He already gave Huk 30 mins last night. That's a rare sign for a rookie. Huk might force his hand like he did last night. All of Thibs successful teams had a rim protector. And some more stats from last night: Opponents shot 28% at the rim when Huk contested.

He's yet to play KAT with any other big, mainly because that means taking Josh off the floor. Maybe he tries with Huk, but I doubt he's going to just start Huk over Josh anytime soon. If anyone will start over Josh it'll be Precious, since he did that last year for a bit.

We're going to be 40+ games into the season by the time Mitch comes back, if he ever comes back. I don't think they'll start him either, just like they didn't start him over IHart when he came back.

[3toheadmelo]

Tom is not going to start a rookie over Josh.

Probably not, but Thibs deep down knows we need a rim protector badly. He said this last month about Mitch after we got KAT. Sounds to me his plan is to start Mitch with KAT when he comes back.

“You’re going to take it step by step,” Thibodeau said about Robinson starting when/if he comes back. “First thing is to get him back and see where he is. I like the versatility he gives us. We won a lot of games with our rebounding last year. We know he’s elite. Offensive rebounder, probably the best in the league. Defensive rebounding. Rim protection. Pick and roll defense. Those are things he adds to the team.”

He already gave Huk 30 mins last night. That's a rare sign for a rookie. Huk might force his hand like he did last night. All of Thibs successful teams had a rim protector. And some more stats from last night: Opponents shot 28% at the rim when Huk contested.

He's yet to play KAT with any other big, mainly because that means taking Josh off the floor. Maybe he tries with Huk, but I doubt he's going to just start Huk over Josh anytime soon. If anyone will start over Josh it'll be Precious, since he did that last year for a bit.

I think he's giving KAT a shot at C for a bit before he makes any big changes. If we're still hovering around .500 by next month and our paint defense is still atrocious, I bet he starts playing KAT with another big.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Probably not, but Thibs deep down knows we need a rim protector badly. He said this last month about Mitch after we got KAT. Sounds to me his plan is to start Mitch with KAT when he comes back.

He already gave Huk 30 mins last night. That's a rare sign for a rookie. Huk might force his hand like he did last night. All of Thibs successful teams had a rim protector. And some more stats from last night: Opponents shot 28% at the rim when Huk contested.

He's yet to play KAT with any other big, mainly because that means taking Josh off the floor. Maybe he tries with Huk, but I doubt he's going to just start Huk over Josh anytime soon. If anyone will start over Josh it'll be Precious, since he did that last year for a bit.

I think he's giving KAT a shot at C for a bit before he makes any big changes. If we're still hovering around .500 by next month and our paint defense is still atrocious, I bet he starts playing KAT with another big.

It would be Precious, he's the only one on the roster that gives us the potential at still being a 5 out team while being able to guard the 4 or 5.

[Clyde_Style]

We have an excellent set of rookies

Amazing job drafting them all with higher picks

Huk, Kolek and Dadier are all legit and have hoops in their blood

Questions about our depth could mostly be answered by mid-season if Thibs ups their playing time to gain experience

Good scouting is critical for top cap heavy teams to get rotation pieces at low cost. So far, so good, but it's also on the coaching staff to develop them and the coach to give them enough room to grow, make mistakes and learn.

And so it begins .......

FO knows what they're doing, yet .............

[3toheadmelo]

He's yet to play KAT with any other big, mainly because that means taking Josh off the floor. Maybe he tries with Huk, but I doubt he's going to just start Huk over Josh anytime soon. If anyone will start over Josh it'll be Precious, since he did that last year for a bit.

I think he's giving KAT a shot at C for a bit before he makes any big changes. If we're still hovering around .500 by next month and our paint defense is still atrocious, I bet he starts playing KAT with another big.

It would be Precious, he's the only one on the roster that gives us the potential at still being a 5 out team while being able to guard the 4 or 5.

Maybe. Time will tell. Just hoping Thibs starts some big next to KAT eventually.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I think he's giving KAT a shot at C for a bit before he makes any big changes. If we're still hovering around .500 by next month and our paint defense is still atrocious, I bet he starts playing KAT with another big.

It would be Precious, he's the only one on the roster that gives us the potential at still being a 5 out team while being able to guard the 4 or 5.

Maybe. Time will tell. Just hoping Thibs starts some big next to KAT eventually.

The defense wasn't good last night without KAT, so it's more than just him, for as good as Huk was, we still had a 125 DRTG with him on the court. I don't think Tom wants to play two bigs, he could have done it at any time with Sims and KAT but hasn't done a single minute of it, also the issue is that Josh is our secondary creator right now.

I would think Precious is the one that has the best chance of playing next to KAT, because he's a versatile defender which seems to be what they're aiming for with this team. Last year as a starter Precious averaged 12.5ppg, 9.5rpg, 1.8bpg in his 18 starts and he was solid as a rim protector.

[3toheadmelo]

It would be Precious, he's the only one on the roster that gives us the potential at still being a 5 out team while being able to guard the 4 or 5.

Maybe. Time will tell. Just hoping Thibs starts some big next to KAT eventually.

The defense wasn't good last night without KAT, so it's more than just him, for as good as Huk was, we still had a 125 DRTG with him on the court. I don't think Tom wants to play two bigs, he could have done it at any time with Sims and KAT but hasn't done a single minute of it, also the issue is that Josh is our secondary creator right now.

I would think Precious is the one that has the best chance of playing next to KAT, because he's a versatile defender which seems to be what they're aiming for with this team. Last year as a starter Precious averaged 12.5ppg, 9.5rpg, 1.8bpg in his 18 starts and he was solid as a rim protector.

Our 3 point defense is still a concern. But I think Huk or another big like Precious definitely helps our paint defense. I’m totally fine with Precious starting. He was a beast when he started for us.

[Context]

This is for the Mikal defensive slander:

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[spree2kawhi]

This is for the Mikal defensive slander:

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I’m not buying the defensive slander anyway.

[Guano]

I appreciate that you answered my question, but is this something people care about? I care about who wins the finals. In-season champs? . . . it feels alien to me, even if the Knicks get a plaque for it. Am I the only one who feels this way?

The Cup takes away from the gravity of the Finals. It's the stupidest ever by the NBA - damaging its flagship product for short-term views in the regular season and an artificial trophy.

Soccer cups are meaningful because they incorporate teams from lower domestic leagues that would otherwise have no opportunity to play the big players. So it's a different pool of participants. To organize a Cup with the exact same teams, with wins still counting for league results, is devoid of meaning. It's just fiddling with the schedule and somehow putting a trophy in the end to pretend it matters.

And by saying it matters, they're communicating the NBA Finals isn't the end-all-be-all it has always been. And while they all congratulated themselves over the uptick in ratings for the Cup last year (novelty effect), the NBA generated even less interest in the Finals last year. The 2024 Finals was the least watched Finals in the last 50 years, outside of the COVID years.

Their short-sightedness is unbelievable.

I hope the Knicks never win this stupid Cup because James Dolan isn't above throwing a parade for this, and it will be the most anticlimactic thing you can imagine.

There's talk that the NBA could eventually allow euro league teams to play in the cup.

Chanel isn't invited to the cup party. He can stay home organizing his socks.

[Guano]

I want to see Ariel Hukporti play some more yo

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More Pacman too, he did more in that one little stretch than Matt Ryan has done with his time.

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That's what this team has been missing since a certain deity moved on - a French 3 point specialist who is a lock down defender.

[DimesandKnicks]

It would be Precious, he's the only one on the roster that gives us the potential at still being a 5 out team while being able to guard the 4 or 5.

Maybe. Time will tell. Just hoping Thibs starts some big next to KAT eventually.

The defense wasn't good last night without KAT, so it's more than just him, for as good as Huk was, we still had a 125 DRTG with him on the court. I don't think Tom wants to play two bigs, he could have done it at any time with Sims and KAT but hasn't done a single minute of it, also the issue is that Josh is our secondary creator right now.

I would think Precious is the one that has the best chance of playing next to KAT, because he's a versatile defender which seems to be what they're aiming for with this team. Last year as a starter Precious averaged 12.5ppg, 9.5rpg, 1.8bpg in his 18 starts and he was solid as a rim protector.

Your not going to play Kat and Sims when you don’t trust the third C off your bench