I think I’m done with Scoot

[DusterBuster]

I agree

throw him into the fire; see if he sinks or swims; if he's got what it takes to find his mojo, tap into his upside, and find his groove

"metaphor department: wiz speaking"

He's either gonna bat a thousand or strike out, we're on the 10yd line, it's time to find out if he's smarter than a fifth grader.

Baseball, football, AND Jeff Foxworthy? Nice

Tri f***ing fecta

[Walton1one]

Scoot is still (20) very young, only (2) PG came into the league recently and excelled in their 1st year: Ja Morant (20) & Trae Young (19)

Scoot should show signs of improvement this year, results mixed so far, but not getting much help from his coach\mgmt, playing with 2nd string, sitting in 4Q over fringe NBA guys like Banton

[DusterBuster]

Backing off my Clingan ROY bet. Knecht looks like he will run away with it. JJ is a good coach and playing the best players vs vets who he think need the minutes out of “respect”. Dalton is getting too much run too early.

[PDXKnight]

Backing off my Clingan ROY bet. Knecht looks like he will run away with it. JJ is a good coach and playing the best players vs vets who he think need the minutes out of “respect”. Dalton is getting too much run too early.

Just 2-3 solid games. I think if clingan starts all year he has a real shot but that's a big if with ayton around. I think ayton cries more about coming off the bench

[DusterBuster]

Backing off my Clingan ROY bet. Knecht looks like he will run away with it. JJ is a good coach and playing the best players vs vets who he think need the minutes out of “respect”. Dalton is getting too much run too early.

Just 2-3 solid games. I think if clingan starts all year he has a real shot but that's a big if with ayton around. I think ayton cries more about coming off the bench

I still bet that Ayton would just sit and pout and be “injured” for a lot of the season. That said, Dalton I think will be the odds favorite for ROY if they keep him in the starting lineup. Bro has no hesitation letting it fly and JJ has given him the greenlight.

[Case2012]

It was absolutely a slam dunk to take Edey and Knecht with our picks. I like Clingan, but Edey has star potential, so did Knecht, but instead we used 2 lottery picks on role players. As a player Deni isn't that bad but Knecht has more upside and would be on his first deal. Tanking and trading away the picks you got for your franchise player for role players is malpractice. They were always going to to take Clingan and trade that pick for Deni no matter who was there and that's just stupid. You shouldn't be running a team if that's how you operate. Knecht on this team next to Shaedon would have given Scoot and Edey spacing and allowed them both to really shine as well as accelerate this painful rebuild. Edey is almost as good as Clingan defensively, and 1000x better on offense.Handing the rookie of the year to the lakers is infuriating as a old school blazer fan. Again I like Clingan a lot but I really believe Edey is the better player and will have a better career.

I was screaming for both of those players but instead the blazers made my nightmare scenario come true. Even though I like Clingan I'm still furious that they would make such a tone deaf decision with the 14th pick and it was a bad use of assets on top of that.

Still think this team has been fun to watch the last few games and I'm hopeful the next lottery pick nets us a second star but it's really really hard to support an organization owned and ran by repugnant people.

People thought the TV deal money would raise the value of the team enough to get Jody to sell but I honestly don't think she'll ever do it when she can keep pocketing those 8-9-10 figure checks she pays herself.

[BlazersBroncos]

To each his own. I pretty safely would take Clingan and Deni over Edey and Dalton.

Whether Deni was worth that 2029 FRP as well as 14 is up in the air. That being said, he is basically the same age as Dalton and while not the shooter, is much better at everything else.

Lost in the Sharpe play is that during this 3 game win streak Deni is playing very well - 22mpg / 12ppg / 6rpg / 3.3apg / 4FTA / 43PTa / 50% 3PT. Over the season he also is posting a higher DBPM than Camara who everyone is noticing as playing good D.

Dalton is a very nice shooter - but it has to be noted he is being helped tremendously by playing next to 2 high gravity guys in LBJ and AD. I dont think he is close to the all around player Deni is.

Avdija is great at everything but shooting and that will come around to the mean IMO (He should settle around 45% IMO - but we will have to wait and see).

[DusterBuster]

To each his own. I pretty safely would take Clingan and Deni over Edey and Dalton.

Whether Deni was worth that 2029 FRP as well as 14 is up in the air. That being said, he is basically the same age as Dalton and while not the shooter, is much better at everything else.

Lost in the Sharpe play is that during this 3 game win streak Deni is playing very well - 22mpg / 12ppg / 6rpg / 3.3apg / 4FTA / 43PTa / 50% 3PT. Over the season he also is posting a higher DBPM than Camara who everyone is noticing as playing good D.

Dalton is a very nice shooter - but it has to be noted he is being helped tremendously by playing next to 2 high gravity guys in LBJ and AD. I dont think he is close to the all around player Deni is.

Avdija is great at everything but shooting and that will come around to the mean IMO (He should settle around 45% IMO - but we will have to wait and see).

And I would have split the difference. I don't see star potential in Edey at all, I think Clingan is the better player and prospect of those two.

But I would have rather drafted Dalton at 14 and kept the future first vs getting Deni. Deni has been fine, but that deal is rapidly looking like a overpay with every passing game where he isn't matching his numbers with the Wizards.

[Walton1one]

Important to note, Clingan is 2 years younger than Edey. Also, DC is impactful on both ends of the floor.

[zzaj]

Backing off my Clingan ROY bet. Knecht looks like he will run away with it. JJ is a good coach and playing the best players vs vets who he think need the minutes out of “respect”. Dalton is getting too much run too early.

Just 2-3 solid games. I think if clingan starts all year he has a real shot but that's a big if with ayton around. I think ayton cries more about coming off the bench

I don't think Knecht is going to 'run away' with it...especially with McCain and Wells playing like they are. McCain just had a 34pts/10asts game. I also think Sarr has a chance to come around as he progresses and gets more familiar with the NBA. He's at 10/6/2.3a/2.3blk right now. If he stops shooting 3s and actually plays in the paint a little bit, I could see those points and rebounding numbers going up a bit.

Castle too, has potential to really up his play as the season moves along and he gets more comfortable...

Too the bigger point, at this stage it's anybody's ROY to be had, though.

[zzaj]

To each his own. I pretty safely would take Clingan and Deni over Edey and Dalton.

Whether Deni was worth that 2029 FRP as well as 14 is up in the air. That being said, he is basically the same age as Dalton and while not the shooter, is much better at everything else.

Lost in the Sharpe play is that during this 3 game win streak Deni is playing very well - 22mpg / 12ppg / 6rpg / 3.3apg / 4FTA / 43PTa / 50% 3PT. Over the season he also is posting a higher DBPM than Camara who everyone is noticing as playing good D.

Dalton is a very nice shooter - but it has to be noted he is being helped tremendously by playing next to 2 high gravity guys in LBJ and AD. I dont think he is close to the all around player Deni is.

Avdija is great at everything but shooting and that will come around to the mean IMO (He should settle around 45% IMO - but we will have to wait and see).

Agreed with this--can't be playing the 'hindsight' game with the price for Deni, IMO.

In my personal opinion the two biggest reasons the Blazers have had the start they have had? Camara and Deni on defense. Even though Deni is still figuring out his offensive role on the team, the tone those two set on defense makes a night-and-day difference from the team last year. Add Clingan and TL to that defensive mix, and you start to see some team identity showing through...which is about 1000x more fun to watch than last year.

[BlazersBroncos]

To each his own. I pretty safely would take Clingan and Deni over Edey and Dalton.

Whether Deni was worth that 2029 FRP as well as 14 is up in the air. That being said, he is basically the same age as Dalton and while not the shooter, is much better at everything else.

Lost in the Sharpe play is that during this 3 game win streak Deni is playing very well - 22mpg / 12ppg / 6rpg / 3.3apg / 4FTA / 43PTa / 50% 3PT. Over the season he also is posting a higher DBPM than Camara who everyone is noticing as playing good D.

Dalton is a very nice shooter - but it has to be noted he is being helped tremendously by playing next to 2 high gravity guys in LBJ and AD. I dont think he is close to the all around player Deni is.

Avdija is great at everything but shooting and that will come around to the mean IMO (He should settle around 45% IMO - but we will have to wait and see).

Agreed with this--can't be playing the 'hindsight' game with the price for Deni, IMO.

In my personal opinion the two biggest reasons the Blazers have had the start they have had? Camara and Deni on defense. Even though Deni is still figuring out his offensive role on the team, the tone those two set on defense makes a night-and-day difference from the team last year. Add Clingan and TL to that defensive mix, and you start to see some team identity showing through...which is about 1000x more fun to watch than last year.

Ya - we all give Camara a ton of credit defensively but Deni has been just as good IMO. Think the cost to get him and w/ his shooting struggles make it easier to overlook his other contributions, especially defensively, and instead heap all the praise on Camara who at pick like 52 is exceeding expectations by a huge margin.

[Norm2953]

I think Portland viewed Dalton as a poor fit with them for he's likely a SG in Portland.

What the team needs is a better player up front for both Deni/Camara are more complimentary
players.

[BlazersBroncos]

Ya worth noting Dalton is 6'6 and its pretty clear the FO has prioritized size at the SF position. Its likely he was on the Blazers draft board as a SG, not a SF -

Deni 6'9
Camara 6'8
Murray 6'8
Rupert 6'6 (But w/ 7+ WS)

We are getting our wish for the most part with Schmitz and Co. prioritizing size finally. Dalton is a 6'6 shooting specialist SF here.

[zzaj]

Ya worth noting Dalton is 6'6 and its pretty clear the FO has prioritized size at the SF position. Its likely he was on the Blazers draft board as a SG, not a SF -

Deni 6'9
Camara 6'8
Murray 6'8
Rupert 6'6 (But w/ 7+ WS)

We are getting our wish for the most part with Schmitz and Co. prioritizing size finally. Dalton is a 6'6 shooting specialist SF here.

I think there is some truth to this with Sharpe/Matisse on the roster--however, I'd rather Scoot was passing to Knecht than Simons.

I liked Knecht in the draft, and thought he should receive some consideration with the Blazers first pick.

[Walton1one]

Yeah, you can't treat team composition like a pinterest board

Who is the better player? That is all that matters. Knecht needs to show more than just a few games and Camara needs to show he can be more impactful on the offensive end.

Would a team with Sharpe\Knecht on the wings be better than a team with Sharpe\Camara-Murray?

Love Camara's defense, but not sure that compensates for his offensive inefficiencies right now. Would Camara be better as a bench player (7th-8th man role) or as a starter?

How is the fit with Camara compared to Knecht, especially when you factor in the rest of the team composition (severe lack of shooting)?

I like Camara, I like Knecht. I wanted POR to draft him. Can we really say on a good team that Camara is any better than a slightly improved version of Thybulle?

[zzaj]

Yeah, you can't treat team composition like a pinterest board

Who is the better player? That is all that matters. Knecht needs to show more than just a few games and Camara needs to show he can be more impactful on the offensive end.

Would a team with Sharpe\Knecht on the wings be better than a team with Sharpe\Camara-Murray?

Love Camara's defense, but not sure that compensates for his offensive inefficiencies right now. Would Camara be better as a bench player (7th-8th man role) or as a starter?

How is the fit with Camara compared to Knecht, especially when you factor in the rest of the team composition (severe lack of shooting)?

I like Camara, I like Knecht. I wanted POR to draft him. Can we really say on a good team that Camara is any better than a slightly improved version of Thybulle?

I would imagine Knecht would be 6th man on the Blazers.

Camara is a MUCH better on-ball defender than Matisse--who is more of a disruptor type. If Camara can continue to hit 3s at a reasonable clip and take on the challenge of opposing team's lead guards, then I think he'd play good minutes on any team in the league.

[Case2012]

However you want to spin it, if you have a lottery pick, even in a draft that was supposedly weak (I think that was bs), you should go for a player with high upside, not a role player. You have to roll the dice and hopefully luck into a star. Deni is not, and never will be a star. Ryan Dunn is another guy i was really vocal about and could be one of the best 3/d guys in the league someday. I would have taken Knecht and tried to get another pick(s) for Grant/Simons/Ayton to get Dunn which I posted about a lot leading up to the draft.

Scoot, Banton
Shaedon, Thybulle
Knecht, Murray
Camara, Dunn
Clingan, RW

I think that's a better, more exciting team. Knecht is a great shooter but he's also a great scorer in general, not sure why he has the reputation as a 3 pt specialist other than being a white dude. He was the focal point of the defense in college and had no problems dropping 30 point games without the gravity of Lebron and Davis.

Speaking of exciting, I can't wait to have Thybulle back. I'm not sure how the minutes will work but the defense should be top tier with RW, Clingan, Thybulle, Deni, Camara, Murray. The man to man defense of Deni and Camara with the disruptive defense of Thybulle, the rim protection of RW and Clingan should be pretty fun to watch.

[SweaterBae]

However you want to spin it, if you have a lottery pick, even in a draft that was supposedly weak (I think that was bs), you should go for a player with high upside, not a role player. You have to roll the dice and hopefully luck into a star. Deni is not, and never will be a star. Ryan Dunn is another guy i was really vocal about and could be one of the best 3/d guys in the league someday. I would have taken Knecht and tried to get another pick(s) for Grant/Simons/Ayton to get Dunn which I posted about a lot leading up to the draft.

Scoot, Banton
Shaedon, Thybulle
Knecht, Murray
Camara, Dunn
Clingan, RW

I think that's a better, more exciting team. Knecht is a great shooter but he's also a great scorer in general, not sure why he has the reputation as a 3 pt specialist other than being a white dude. He was the focal point of the defense in college and had no problems dropping 30 point games without the gravity of Lebron and Davis.

Speaking of exciting, I can't wait to have Thybulle back. I'm not sure how the minutes will work but the defense should be top tier with RW, Clingan, Thybulle, Deni, Camara, Murray. The man to man defense of Deni and Camara with the disruptive defense of Thybulle, the rim protection of RW and Clingan should be pretty fun to watch.

We'll lose 2-0.

[SweaterBae]

Scoot is still (20) very young, only (2) PG came into the league recently and excelled in their 1st year: Ja Morant (20) & Trae Young (19)

Scoot should show signs of improvement this year, results mixed so far, but not getting much help from his coach\mgmt, playing with 2nd string, sitting in 4Q over fringe NBA guys like Banton

Neither of which can be the best player on a championship team. I don't understand why(not calling you out at all) people in general, but especially front offices think that drafting 6'2 guys is going to lead to winning a natty. Once every 20 years you get Isiah Thomas or Steph Curry?