2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation

[KdoubleDees23]

What is crazy is if you look at the OKC Thunder roster and how good they are doing. Really one superstar and just a team full of distruptors on defense, and sidekicks who are still dominating!!!! I like that roster set up rather than 2 old stars that are always hurt and not reliable

[Saberestar]

What is crazy is if you look at the OKC Thunder roster and how good they are doing. Really one superstar and just a team full of distruptors on defense, and sidekicks who are still dominating!!!! I like that roster set up rather than 2 old stars that are always hurt and not reliable

I don't see them like that.They have his own Big 3 in SGA, Holgrem and Jalen Williams.

Holgrem and Jalen Williams will get max contracts after their rookie deals, they did a pretty good job drafting talented players.

Holgrem was a full year out and is out again with a long-term injury so there is that...not much better than KD or Beal.

We will see if they make some noise in the playoffs this season, for now it’s all about potential but they haven't done anything yet.

[garrick]

What is crazy is if you look at the OKC Thunder roster and how good they are doing. Really one superstar and just a team full of distruptors on defense, and sidekicks who are still dominating!!!! I like that roster set up rather than 2 old stars that are always hurt and not reliable

I don't see them like that.They have his own Big 3 in SGA, Holgrem and Jalen Williams.

Holgrem and Jalen Williams will get max contracts after their rookie deals, they did a pretty good job drafting talented players.

Holgrem was a full year out and is out again with a long-term injury so there is that...not much better than KD or Beal.

We will see if they make some noise in the playoffs this season, for now it’s all about potential but they haven't done anything yet.

I'm not super sold on Chet becoming a max type player as he is much too frail to stay healthy if you ask me.

Like the fall that led to his injury was due to him being so thin he just gets knocked down easily while trying to be a rim protector.
They control all of their picks so the scary part is they can keep drafting smart and picking up some good talent on that roster.

Without Chet they definitely are good enough to be a top 3 team still just based on how good SGA is and that team is built around him so it's not at all like the Suns who really can't compete if KD and Beal are out.

[lilfishi22]

What is crazy is if you look at the OKC Thunder roster and how good they are doing. Really one superstar and just a team full of distruptors on defense, and sidekicks who are still dominating!!!! I like that roster set up rather than 2 old stars that are always hurt and not reliable

I don't see them like that.They have his own Big 3 in SGA, Holgrem and Jalen Williams.

Holgrem and Jalen Williams will get max contracts after their rookie deals, they did a pretty good job drafting talented players.

Holgrem was a full year out and is out again with a long-term injury so there is that...not much better than KD or Beal.

We will see if they make some noise in the playoffs this season, for now it’s all about potential but they haven't done anything yet.

I'm not super sold on Chet becoming a max type player as he is much too frail to stay healthy if you ask me.

Like the fall that led to his injury was due to him being so thin he just gets knocked down easily while trying to be a rim protector.
They control all of their picks so the scary part is they can keep drafting smart and picking up some good talent on that roster.

Without Chet they definitely are good enough to be a top 3 team still just based on how good SGA is and that team is built around him so it's not at all like the Suns who really can't compete if KD and Beal are out.

Damn near everyone is a max or near max player these days if they show even some hint of elite potential. Given Chet's impact, potential and youth, he's absolutely a max player in today's NBA. FWIW, he did play 82 games last season which is also pretty rare in today's NBA.

[garrick]

I don't see them like that.They have his own Big 3 in SGA, Holgrem and Jalen Williams.

Holgrem and Jalen Williams will get max contracts after their rookie deals, they did a pretty good job drafting talented players.

Holgrem was a full year out and is out again with a long-term injury so there is that...not much better than KD or Beal.

We will see if they make some noise in the playoffs this season, for now it’s all about potential but they haven't done anything yet.

I'm not super sold on Chet becoming a max type player as he is much too frail to stay healthy if you ask me.

Like the fall that led to his injury was due to him being so thin he just gets knocked down easily while trying to be a rim protector.
They control all of their picks so the scary part is they can keep drafting smart and picking up some good talent on that roster.

Without Chet they definitely are good enough to be a top 3 team still just based on how good SGA is and that team is built around him so it's not at all like the Suns who really can't compete if KD and Beal are out.

Damn near everyone is a max or near max player these days if they show even some hint of elite potential. Given Chet's impact, potential and youth, he's absolutely a max player in today's NBA. FWIW, he did play 82 games last season which is also pretty rare in today's NBA.

Rare but he also missed his first season with a fractured foot in his rookie season which is a pretty rare injury for the type of play he got injured in.

I think he's just going to be prone to fractures because when he falls there just really is not much padding to shield his bones from impact injuries.

[Sunlight]

Booker has had to use much more of his energy on defense since Bridges left. It was easy for MJ to shine in offense when Pippen was next to him.

[bwgood77]

I don't see them like that.They have his own Big 3 in SGA, Holgrem and Jalen Williams.

Holgrem and Jalen Williams will get max contracts after their rookie deals, they did a pretty good job drafting talented players.

Holgrem was a full year out and is out again with a long-term injury so there is that...not much better than KD or Beal.

We will see if they make some noise in the playoffs this season, for now it’s all about potential but they haven't done anything yet.

I'm not super sold on Chet becoming a max type player as he is much too frail to stay healthy if you ask me.

Like the fall that led to his injury was due to him being so thin he just gets knocked down easily while trying to be a rim protector.
They control all of their picks so the scary part is they can keep drafting smart and picking up some good talent on that roster.

Without Chet they definitely are good enough to be a top 3 team still just based on how good SGA is and that team is built around him so it's not at all like the Suns who really can't compete if KD and Beal are out.

Damn near everyone is a max or near max player these days if they show even some hint of elite potential. Given Chet's impact, potential and youth, he's absolutely a max player in today's NBA. FWIW, he did play 82 games last season which is also pretty rare in today's NBA.

Yeah, Chet is a max player for sure. It's super hard to find players with his skill set.

[bwgood77]

Weird that we have 5 days off after NY. Even if Beal is pretty much ready (and KD for that matter), it makes sense to hold them out with a 5 day break after that one.

Then a week and a half after that we have 10 days off if we don't make the semifinals. It looks like everyone does. Maybe that's when they do the quarterfinals and finals for the mid season tourney. In some respects, it won't be so bad if we don't make it, for a nice break, especially if any of our players, particularly are main guys, are banged up or still recovering.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

The Cavs are having the dream season we were hoping for here. I'm pleased and hurt to see Ty Jerome make the leap. Mobley and Garland have broken out, and LeVert is having his best season.

One player I'm somewhat disappointed in is Tyus Jones - though it's probably unfair. With Booker being remarkably mid this season (I must admit, it was relieving to watch him go off in Minnesota), and Beal and KD being out (as we should expect from time to time), this team just doesn't have very many offensive weapons to go to.

Suns vs. Magic really highlighted how much damage we've done by failing to invest in youth over the last several years. Their kids ran our vets right off the floor. As time passes, guys like Goga Bitadze and Ty Jerome eclipse guys like Nurkic and Tyus Jones.

[KdoubleDees23]

The Cavs are having the dream season we were hoping for here. I'm pleased and hurt to see Ty Jerome make the leap. Mobley and Garland have broken out, and LeVert is having his best season.

One player I'm somewhat disappointed in is Tyus Jones - though it's probably unfair. With Booker being remarkably mid this season (I must admit, it was relieving to watch him go off in Minnesota), and Beal and KD being out (as we should expect from time to time), this team just doesn't have very many offensive weapons to

Suns vs. Magic really highlighted how much damage we've done by failing to invest in youth over the last several years. Their kids ran our vets right off the floor. As time passes, guys like Goga Bitadze and Ty Jerome eclipse guys like Nurkic and Tyus Jones.

Ty Jerome Sucks. Give me Tyus Jones every day over him. Nurkic sucks. Give me Goga over him any day as well

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Ty Jerome Sucks.

Sigh. If only it were true. I mean, he's no Dyson Daniels. Dayum!

No matter who you watch, it's clear the kids have arrived.

[garrick]

The Cavs are having the dream season we were hoping for here. I'm pleased and hurt to see Ty Jerome make the leap. Mobley and Garland have broken out, and LeVert is having his best season.

One player I'm somewhat disappointed in is Tyus Jones - though it's probably unfair. With Booker being remarkably mid this season (I must admit, it was relieving to watch him go off in Minnesota), and Beal and KD being out (as we should expect from time to time), this team just doesn't have very many offensive weapons to

Suns vs. Magic really highlighted how much damage we've done by failing to invest in youth over the last several years. Their kids ran our vets right off the floor. As time passes, guys like Goga Bitadze and Ty Jerome eclipse guys like Nurkic and Tyus Jones.

It's hard being a PG on this team when your entire offense is mostly shooting 3's but Tyus did have a couple nice passes to Oso inside.

Tyus has been underwhelming for me but that's really more the fact that the whole roster is just not that good besides KD this season and he would look better on a more well balanced roster.

[Slim Charless]

I don't see them like that.They have his own Big 3 in SGA, Holgrem and Jalen Williams.

Holgrem and Jalen Williams will get max contracts after their rookie deals, they did a pretty good job drafting talented players.

Holgrem was a full year out and is out again with a long-term injury so there is that...not much better than KD or Beal.

We will see if they make some noise in the playoffs this season, for now it’s all about potential but they haven't done anything yet.

I'm not super sold on Chet becoming a max type player as he is much too frail to stay healthy if you ask me.

Like the fall that led to his injury was due to him being so thin he just gets knocked down easily while trying to be a rim protector.
They control all of their picks so the scary part is they can keep drafting smart and picking up some good talent on that roster.

Without Chet they definitely are good enough to be a top 3 team still just based on how good SGA is and that team is built around him so it's not at all like the Suns who really can't compete if KD and Beal are out.

Damn near everyone is a max or near max player these days if they show even some hint of elite potential. Given Chet's impact, potential and youth, he's absolutely a max player in today's NBA. FWIW, he did play 82 games last season which is also pretty rare in today's NBA.

We won't get Chet but speaking of other centers........not saying that I'd do this but wanted to gauge the room:

Booker for Embiid?

Ty Jones
Beal
Dunn
KD
Embiid

Is a team who's parts fit better and maybe a change of scenery is what's needed for Biid. Playing with KD would be awesome for both of them on paper, at least. I think Philly would jump all over that deal personally.

Thoughts?

[Saberestar]

I'm not super sold on Chet becoming a max type player as he is much too frail to stay healthy if you ask me.

Like the fall that led to his injury was due to him being so thin he just gets knocked down easily while trying to be a rim protector.
They control all of their picks so the scary part is they can keep drafting smart and picking up some good talent on that roster.

Without Chet they definitely are good enough to be a top 3 team still just based on how good SGA is and that team is built around him so it's not at all like the Suns who really can't compete if KD and Beal are out.

Damn near everyone is a max or near max player these days if they show even some hint of elite potential. Given Chet's impact, potential and youth, he's absolutely a max player in today's NBA. FWIW, he did play 82 games last season which is also pretty rare in today's NBA.

We won't get Chet but speaking of other centers........not saying that I'd do this but wanted to gauge the room:

Booker for Embiid?

Ty Jones
Beal
Dunn
KD
Embiid

Is a team who's parts fit better and maybe a change of scenery is what's needed for Biid. Playing with KD would be awesome for both of them on paper, at least. I think Philly would jump all over that deal personally.

Thoughts?

The Sixers will not trade Embiid. They would trade him ONLY if he wants out... similar to KD on the Nets.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Damn near everyone is a max or near max player these days if they show even some hint of elite potential. Given Chet's impact, potential and youth, he's absolutely a max player in today's NBA. FWIW, he did play 82 games last season which is also pretty rare in today's NBA.

We won't get Chet but speaking of other centers........not saying that I'd do this but wanted to gauge the room:

Booker for Embiid?

Ty Jones
Beal
Dunn
KD
Embiid

Is a team who's parts fit better and maybe a change of scenery is what's needed for Biid. Playing with KD would be awesome for both of them on paper, at least. I think Philly would jump all over that deal personally.

Thoughts?

The Sixers will not trade Embiid. They would trade him ONLY if he wants out... similar to KD on the Nets.

Or Booker on the Suns!

[Iceman36]

Come on guys! It's way too much negativity in here. Go away with stupid trade proposals. It is a star driven league and EVERY team struggles, when 2 of your 3 best players or 3 of your S5 are out several games. It all depends on luck. Cavs are really healthy until now. So you just have to get through this phases of a season. I like our team this year.

[Saberestar]

Come on guys! It's way too much negativity in here. Go away with stupid trade proposals. It is a star driven league and EVERY team struggles, when 2 of your 3 best players or 3 of your S5 are out several games. It all depends on luck. Cavs are really healthy until now. So you just have to get through this phases of a season. I like our team this year.

Our team and coaching staff this year is amazing. We are true contenders and we showed that in the first 10 games of the season. But like you said health it's the key for every team.

[Slim Charless]

We won't get Chet but speaking of other centers........not saying that I'd do this but wanted to gauge the room:

Booker for Embiid?

Ty Jones
Beal
Dunn
KD
Embiid

Is a team who's parts fit better and maybe a change of scenery is what's needed for Biid. Playing with KD would be awesome for both of them on paper, at least. I think Philly would jump all over that deal personally.

Thoughts?

The Sixers will not trade Embiid. They would trade him ONLY if he wants out... similar to KD on the Nets.

Or Booker on the Suns!

Yeah. That's what I was thinking, that Embiid wants out. Nothing over there seems like this vibes and it could be both sides wanna change.

As for Booker, going to Philly would get him in a bigger market, which he'll like and he'll still have his own team. Him and Maxey could be a pairing for the next decade.

For us, the fit is easy and just better. Provided our elite medical staff can still work their magic.

[sunsbum]

The Sixers will not trade Embiid. They would trade him ONLY if he wants out... similar to KD on the Nets.

Or Booker on the Suns!

Yeah. That's what I was thinking, that Embiid wants out. Nothing over there seems like this vibes and it could be both sides wanna change.

As for Booker, going to Philly would get him in a bigger market, which he'll like and he'll still have his own team. Him and Maxey could be a pairing for the next decade.

For us, the fit is easy and just better. Provided our elite medical staff can still work their magic.

That's actually not a bad trade for us. I don't think the sixers have any reason to want Book with PG/Maxey there. Feels like trading Booker just for the sake of it though.

[lilfishi22]

I'm not super sold on Chet becoming a max type player as he is much too frail to stay healthy if you ask me.

Like the fall that led to his injury was due to him being so thin he just gets knocked down easily while trying to be a rim protector.
They control all of their picks so the scary part is they can keep drafting smart and picking up some good talent on that roster.

Without Chet they definitely are good enough to be a top 3 team still just based on how good SGA is and that team is built around him so it's not at all like the Suns who really can't compete if KD and Beal are out.

Damn near everyone is a max or near max player these days if they show even some hint of elite potential. Given Chet's impact, potential and youth, he's absolutely a max player in today's NBA. FWIW, he did play 82 games last season which is also pretty rare in today's NBA.

We won't get Chet but speaking of other centers........not saying that I'd do this but wanted to gauge the room:

Booker for Embiid?

Ty Jones
Beal
Dunn
KD
Embiid

Is a team who's parts fit better and maybe a change of scenery is what's needed for Biid. Playing with KD would be awesome for both of them on paper, at least. I think Philly would jump all over that deal personally.

Thoughts?

No