Alex Sarr

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I'm just amused by the small sample size madness of fan psychology. "He's a freaking bust, an empty stat sheet of ---- last night!!!", "ROY candidate!", "his last four games he's missed more shots than his top mph on the freeway!".....

-- Keep in mind that "fan" is (literally!) short for "fanatic."

[gambitx777]

He's looking good. A few more shots a night, decrease the turn overs and fouls and he might be an all star caliber center in the east.

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[doclinkin]

Honestly its freaking ridiculous. We're here to enjoy the ride, and watch the sample size pile up and see how he handles things, how he developed over dozens and dozens of games and eventually 180-270 of them at which point we'll begin to know exactly what he is, rather than just flashes of insights on potential from time to time.

People get over their skis (certainly me) at the good, and people get too far up their own rear about the bad too, if there a glass empty type too (like I can be sometimes).

The good news to me with all of these guys: they've all looked the part at different times the past 10 games. They've all showcased near ceiling or ceiling level games, games w/showcased more than anything that unlike nearly all the drafts the last decade,

we drafted guys who have good to very good ceilings, and appear to have legit complimentary floors above what you'd expect for double digit slot picks in a consensus horrible draft, including one pick that was closer to the start of round 2 than the middle of round 1. That's exciting as hell.

That’s all we’re looking for. I don’t read anyone saying we’re a contender in the next couple years. The flashes are all you can look for. If a player can do it once then they can probably repeat it. If they can repeat good play consistently then they’ll be solid players. If they then consistently improve even their good play, that way lies stardom.

We’d be right to complain if we saw a player regress. So far it looks like we are watching players learn on the fly and show glimpses of improvement. Wins matter less than the players building confidence that they can do it. Then try it again. Were just looking for a few highlights a night and steady growth as a consequence of the heavy minutes they are playing. Run with that growth before they likely hit the rookie wall.

To me it’s all win win. Losses are future wins. Wins are wins. Winning a quarter then losing the game is a win. It ought to be forgivable if it makes the fan base a little bit manic. Lol

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

It's almost like he's not a center. The goal is for him to play that position at a high level eventually but now he's a PF, with subpar PF offensive skills.

I don't think he should have been the second pick.

Please remind us who you would have taken.

I think I said Reed Sheppard. I liked Clingan a lot. I loved Knecht later in round one.

I hated Sarr. I recall that much. I'm already admitting I was wrong.

Turns out Bub Carrington might be the best player in this draft.

[The Consiglieri]

Honestly its freaking ridiculous. We're here to enjoy the ride, and watch the sample size pile up and see how he handles things, how he developed over dozens and dozens of games and eventually 180-270 of them at which point we'll begin to know exactly what he is, rather than just flashes of insights on potential from time to time.

People get over their skis (certainly me) at the good, and people get too far up their own rear about the bad too, if there a glass empty type too (like I can be sometimes).

The good news to me with all of these guys: they've all looked the part at different times the past 10 games. They've all showcased near ceiling or ceiling level games, games w/showcased more than anything that unlike nearly all the drafts the last decade,

we drafted guys who have good to very good ceilings, and appear to have legit complimentary floors above what you'd expect for double digit slot picks in a consensus horrible draft, including one pick that was closer to the start of round 2 than the middle of round 1. That's exciting as hell.

That’s all we’re looking for. I don’t read anyone saying we’re a contender in the next couple years. The flashes are all you can look for. If a player can do it once then they can probably repeat it. If they can repeat good play consistently then they’ll be solid players. If they then consistently improve even their good play, that way lies stardom.

We’d be right to complain if we saw a player regress. So far it looks like we are watching players learn on the fly and show glimpses of improvement. Wins matter less than the players building confidence that they can do it. Then try it again. Were just looking for a few highlights a night and steady growth as a consequence of the heavy minutes they are playing. Run with that growth before they likely hit the rookie wall.

To me it’s all win win. Losses are future wins. Wins are wins. Winning a quarter then losing the game is a win. It ought to be forgivable if it makes the fan base a little bit manic. Lol

I'd view wins as a problem, this season, like '22-'23, has multiple teams, really a pile trying to tank. We need to finish bottom 3, preferably dead last. The fact that we swept a home and home in the opening week of the season was a huge problem, really only mitigated by the fact that the tanking teams around us also opened the season w/rather spry opening weeks. Nobody opened the season with an 0 for through the first 10, so we're tied on wins with a bunch of teams rather than playing catch up in terms of winlessness. But yeah, we need to be going month to month with 1-2 wins tops. We can't afford to go .500 or .400 in any particular month.

[doclinkin]

To me it’s all win win. Losses are future wins. Wins are wins. Winning a quarter then losing the game is a win. It ought to be forgivable if it makes the fan base a little bit manic. Lol

I'd view wins as a problem, this season, like '22-'23, has multiple teams, really a pile trying to tank. We need to finish bottom 3, preferably dead last. The fact that we swept a home and home in the opening week of the season was a huge problem, really only mitigated by the fact that the tanking teams around us also opened the season w/rather spry opening weeks. Nobody opened the season with an 0 for through the first 10, so we're tied on wins with a bunch of teams rather than playing catch up in terms of winlessness. But yeah, we need to be going month to month with 1-2 wins tops. We can't afford to go .500 or .400 in any particular month.

Ok but we’ve had the league worst point differential this season. We only beat the Hawks. And that was with Kuzma out. Now he’s back from injury, still out of shape, and jacking up unconscionable shots as he does. So the Hawks can now run us out the building. I really don’t think we are in danger of any sustained win streaks. Playing heavy minutes with 4 players too young to drink is not a recipe for wins in the NBA. Even when they’re playing defense and trying hard. It’s the freshman JV team against the seniors every night.

[The Consiglieri]

Fingers crossed your right, that data piece on point differential is absolutely giving me solace and thanks for posting that.

[TheBlackCzar]

I don't think he should have been the second pick.

Please remind us who you would have taken.

I think I said Reed Sheppard. I liked Clingan a lot. I loved Knecht later in round one.

I hater Sarr. I recall that much. I'm already admitting I was wrong.

Turns out Bub Carrington might be the best player in this draft.

Oh **** CCJ, you almost made me faint reading this.....LLS......

I'm glad you're coming around on Sarr.... Bigs with his speed and agility are rare..... We just gotta up that boys BBIQ and skill level.... I think all these youngings going to push each other forward.....

All the heat Bub got when we traded Deni has pretty much proven to be unnecessary.... Aside from a few whiny posters, most see that all the players weve drafted the last 2 years easily made Deni expendable due to the redundancy......


I haven't been this happy to watch this team since CWebb's mob back in the 90's....... And to think we may add a few more nice talented prospects in the next few drafts is interesting to say the least...

[TGW]

Happy to watch this “team”…uh huh. I mean i guess if you have a humiliation fetish, or on some type of narcotic, then I guess it’s possible to enjoy watching this “team”.

[badinage]

Unwatchable. G-league-ish ball.

They lose every game by 20. And it rarely feels that close.

I’m curious: what are Sarr’s stats if you take awsy the 3 ATL games in which he was extra motivated?

[badinage]

Also? Nobody here was hating on Bub after the trade. We were hating on management.

The kid looks promising. Be nice if he turns into a legit core piece someday.

[DCZards]

Unwatchable. G-league-ish ball.

They lose every game by 20. And it rarely feels that close.

I’m curious: what are Sarr’s stats if you take awsy the 3 ATL games in which he was extra motivated?

The Zards as rebuilding. And, at this point, it’s not about wins and losses, how much they lose by, or the stats of individual players. It’s about having 4 very young players with what looks like a ton of potential…and assets like a top pick next season and the picks from the Deni trade.

That’s exciting to some of us.

[badinage]

Unwatchable. G-league-ish ball.

They lose every game by 20. And it rarely feels that close.

I’m curious: what are Sarr’s stats if you take awsy the 3 ATL games in which he was extra motivated?

The Zards as rebuilding. And, at this point, it’s not about wins and losses, how much they lose by, or the stats of individual players. It’s about having 4 very young players with what looks like a ton of potential…and assets like a top pick next season and the picks from the Deni trade.

That’s exciting to some of us.

Oh, I’m on board. The 4 younguns, that’s everything. That’s the season. And also securing a Top 2 pick, we hope.

But.

Effort. Desperation. Throwing themselves into the stands, diving on the court. Even Keefe isn’t pleased.

They’re going to lose, and should lose. But by 20 or thereabouts every night? Without being competitive for stretches?

If that’s the case, then just play the 4 and give them big minutes and tell them to fire away, the way they were doing weeks ago.

Right now, over the last week or so, they appear to have staked out a weird, Sheppard-like middle-ground — not just playing vets, but giving them gobs of playing time, giving them freedom to shoot, letting them make “plays,” while the younguns are expected to find their place within the maelstrom, within the mess.

[payitforward]

If we hope to trade Brogdon, we have to play him. Ditto Kispert, Kuz, et. al.

This is a loooong process.

[dobrojim]

I don't think he should have been the second pick.

Please remind us who you would have taken.

I think I said Reed Sheppard. I liked Clingan a lot. I loved Knecht later in round one.

I hater Sarr. I recall that much. I'm already admitting I was wrong.

Turns out Bub Carrington might be the best player in this draft.

I liked Reed a lot too before the draft but right now, I'd say Bub is showing more.
That's without looking at advanced stats or any stats really.

I expect for them to continue to lose but it's tough when they so reliably
lose by a lot ie 20-3o points,

[smoothSeph]

Looks like he’s starting to develop a go to move. I really see some KG offensively if the right coach gets to him.

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[BearlyBallin]

Looks like he’s starting to develop a go to move. I really see some KG offensively if the right coach gets to him.

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Sweet !

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[AFM]

I can definitely see why they call him The French Garnett.

[dobrojim]

Was watching the Bucks-Bulls game last night and admiring how Giannis was dominating.

I drifted into a possibly far fetched fantasy about Sarr. What kind of numbers did Giannis
put up in his first 2-3 years? My memory is hazy and I'm too lazy to look it up
but my recollection is that it took him at least 3 years to begin to resemble
the player he became. I remember him as a skinny kid with little impact.
I've been visting and contributing a little to the WaPo sports page and
commenting on some of the harsh (as I see it) criticism of
Sarr which I see as premature given his age. My wet dream is he becomes
something like Giannis/Mobley or Bam. The kid is only 19. I'm not gonna say
I think he will become something like any of those guys as there is also a
possibility he becomes more like countless other players who never reached
that level. But he (Sarr) does have some gifts and potential. Of course how
well he realizes his potential is an open question. It's obviously early days.

But since we're losing so bad, what else are we gonna talk about?

[bsilver]

Looks like he’s starting to develop a go to move. I really see some KG offensively if the right coach gets to him.

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I've come around on Sarr, and think he may be good some day. But, to call him an elite defender? He's a horrible defender. Each center we face - their eyes light up knowing they're going to have a big night. He can defend down low, and he gets beat off the dribble. He can't rebound, so we give up so many easy second chance points. It's not just him, but he's the main reason we have the worst defense in the league.