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Post#1701 » by Fierce1 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:36 pm

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I think they can't attach a future 1st pick because it could be taken away if they remain in the 2nd apron 3 years in a row. If they can attach their 25' 1st I'd love this move: It will involve San Antonio again because IMO, they should do everything to tank for Flagg. Wemby and Flagg would be a great combo for the NBA. It would stink for Flagg to go to Tor, Was or Philly.

Spurs get Springer and C's 25' 1st

C's get Champagnie

Spurs need to move some other pieces like Barnes/CP3 to go full tank mode. If there's a year to go for it it's this year.

Yeah, the pick will be frozen, but the earliest is 2032.

Champagnie for Springer works.

But is Brad interested in Champagnie?


:dontknow: :D

Checks a bunch of boxes. Young, good shooter, good size, comes from a good system and cheap for a few years.

True.

Definitely an upgrade over Walsh.
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Post#1702 » by phincsfan » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:42 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:Yeah, the pick will be frozen, but the earliest is 2032.

Champagnie for Springer works.

But is Brad interested in Champagnie?


:dontknow: :D

Checks a bunch of boxes. Young, good shooter, good size, comes from a good system and cheap for a few years.

True.

Definitely an upgrade over Walsh.


Definitely. Nothing against Walsh, but it solidifies the bench.
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Post#1703 » by Hal14 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:15 pm

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bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:move the Celtics should make before the Deadline:

- Tillman and a couple of Future Seconds for a Better Big who can contribute more in the next two seasons...

What big who we could realistically acquire via trade is significantly better than Tillman and makes a salary that is equal or less than Tillman's?

I doubt there is a player who fits that but genuinely curious..

Also, probably not worth it to trade Tillman (who has a multi year contract) and all that draft capital for a guy who likely won't even be in the playoff rotation.


Pickings, after further research are light, but you could do Tillman and a 2nd for either Yabs or Theis' expiring contracts.
I think those two fit better with what Mazzulla seems to want from his Bigs this season.

Interestingly enough, you could trade Tillman & whatever Picks for Banton - not that helps the Center position, but it improves
the bench.

Eh, I don't see it happening. Tillman helped us win a championship last season. I don't see him getting moved, especially on that dirt cheap contract.

It's a long season and it's still early. He'll contribute for us and if not, that just means that other guys (like Queta, Kornet) are contributing enough that we don't need Tillman as much which means no real need for another big - especially a big that makes $2 mil or less.

I think the only real deadline move we might make is moving Springer and/or picks to acquire some combination of tax relief/picks/some decent player who makes $4mil or less.
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Post#1704 » by neno » Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:19 am

Spring and pic for Day'ron Sharpe from Brooklyn
Spring and pic for Daron Holmes from Denver
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Post#1705 » by phincsfan » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:56 pm

neno wrote:Spring and pic for Day'ron Sharpe from Brooklyn
Spring and pic for Daron Holmes from Denver


Holmes just tore his achilles :dontknow:
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Post#1706 » by 165bows » Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:04 pm

If they need a wing, Amir Coffey is the guy to watch imo. Depends on how LAC does going forward obviously.
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Post#1707 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:12 pm

165bows wrote:If they need a wing, Amir Coffey is the guy to watch imo. Depends on how LAC does going forward obviously.

I heard that from Bleacher Report.

He's playing really well now.

Unlikely he becomes available.
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Post#1708 » by 165bows » Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:15 pm

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165bows wrote:If they need a wing, Amir Coffey is the guy to watch imo. Depends on how LAC does going forward obviously.

I heard that from Bleacher Report.

He's playing really well now.

Unlikely he becomes available.

They heard it from me, I posted it here about 20 pages back as the potential Springer trade option.
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Post#1709 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:15 pm

I think Javonte is a more realistic target.
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Post#1710 » by Higgs Boston » Wed Nov 20, 2024 4:24 pm

The best big among the realistic options is likely trendon watford, but what the teams needs more is 1-2 perimeter players that are average second unit players or close to it and at least 1 big wing to replace brisset and Svi, you can't go to the players with only 2 real perimeter players on the bench.
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Post#1711 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:31 pm

There is no doubt in my mind that the Cs thought Springer would be ready for more this season. I don’t know what happened but Joe hasn’t been impressed. I don’t know if that means he’s on the table though.
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Post#1712 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:05 pm

165bows wrote:
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165bows wrote:If they need a wing, Amir Coffey is the guy to watch imo. Depends on how LAC does going forward obviously.

I heard that from Bleacher Report.

He's playing really well now.

Unlikely he becomes available.

They heard it from me, I posted it here about 20 pages back as the potential Springer trade option.

I like the idea but I can't imagine that the Clippers are at the top of the list of teams Brad Stevens wants to deal with after that whole Malcolm Brogdon fiasco.
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Post#1713 » by Red2 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:15 pm

Joe needs to give springer some pt.
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Post#1714 » by Dogen » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:59 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:There is no doubt in my mind that the Cs thought Springer would be ready for more this season. I don’t know what happened but Joe hasn’t been impressed. I don’t know if that means he’s on the table though.


I don't know either, but Joe will give a player a shot when he thinks they are ready.

Springer has two things that can't be changed except through time and patience: he has the second shortest tenure on the team after Scheierman, and he's the second youngest player after Walsh. Not a good recipe for the Mazzulla cassarole.

With the team's depth and KP coming back, why the rush to get him out the door? (not directed at you Shak_Celts). Generally, he's not a difference jmaker yet, but people want to trade him for another player that won't see any minutes. I'd rather hold onto Springer until at least the trade deadline, preferably into the summer. We have him, Rico, Davison, Peterson, Ward all available in the pipeline.

Basically, not sure how Coffey or any other player is going to come in and break into the rotation. Our Brissett/Walker is already on the team. When KP comes back and there is still a need to fill, then trade deadline is there.

So I'm really doubting now that we'll see Springer on the court soon, but that does not mean the team is definitively looking to move him. He can stick around, pick up another ring, and re-sign in the summer. 8-)
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Post#1715 » by phincsfan » Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:22 pm

Dogen wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:There is no doubt in my mind that the Cs thought Springer would be ready for more this season. I don’t know what happened but Joe hasn’t been impressed. I don’t know if that means he’s on the table though.


I don't know either, but Joe will give a player a shot when he thinks they are ready.

Springer has two things that can't be changed except through time and patience: he has the second shortest tenure on the team after Scheierman, and he's the second youngest player after Walsh. Not a good recipe for the Mazzulla cassarole.

With the team's depth and KP coming back, why the rush to get him out the door? (not directed at you Shak_Celts). Generally, he's not a difference jmaker yet, but people want to trade him for another player that won't see any minutes. I'd rather hold onto Springer until at least the trade deadline, preferably into the summer. We have him, Rico, Davison, Peterson, Ward all available in the pipeline.

Basically, not sure how Coffey or any other player is going to come in and break into the rotation. Our Brissett/Walker is already on the team. When KP comes back and there is still a need to fill, then trade deadline is there.

So I'm really doubting now that we'll see Springer on the court soon, but that does not mean the team is definitively looking to move him. He can stick around, pick up another ring, and re-sign in the summer. 8-)


And it's not like there's gonna be an opened spot for him next season. The backcourt will be the same plus Rico will be in play. I think his shooting hasn't improved enough where they can trust him. I bet Walsh at least makes shots in practice but he isn't consistent in games. Springer probably can't even hit em' in practice. I'm not saying they expect him to be a shooter but you have to at least show progress in practice. His defense is his strong point but I guess not strong enough to get minutes. :dontknow:
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Post#1716 » by Homerclease » Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:28 pm

Red2 wrote:Joe needs to give springer some pt.

Springer needs to earn pt
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Post#1717 » by neno » Wed Nov 20, 2024 10:14 pm

Homerclease wrote:
Red2 wrote:Joe needs to give springer some pt.

Springer needs to earn pt

He got jumped by Jordan for a reason
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Post#1718 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:24 am

A versatile guard/wing whose contract will work within our luxury tax constraints and trade eligible as making less than Jaden Springer, I’d throw it out there:

Miami Heat trades Jamie Jaquez Jr

Celtics trade Jaden Springer, 2025 first round pick (#30), 2025 Washington second round pick (#31)
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Post#1719 » by Fierce1 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:33 am

No way Riley helps the Celtics.
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Post#1720 » by Dogen » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:00 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:A versatile guard/wing whose contract will work within our luxury tax constraints and trade eligible as making less than Jaden Springer, I’d throw it out there:

Miami Heat trades Jamie Jaquez Jr

Celtics trade Jaden Springer, 2025 first round pick (#30), 2025 Washington second round pick (#31)


I really wanted Jaquez in that draft, but he was already snapped up by the Heat. I don't see why they would give him up for a late first and basically 2 seconds. Springer might do well with them, but Jaquez was a great find and is a contributor on their team.
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