Vegeta10176 wrote:pushfloater wrote:Should be Morey and not Nick Nurse push come to shove. This is a nightmare job for any coach with these circumstances. What a bad gamble if they missed the playoffs!
Niether should get fired but saying it should be Morey is insane.. He has been a great GM.. He got a pick back for harden signed the beat free agent and signed other good pieces in the offseason not one single gm would of not signed Embiid to the extension.. Jamal Murray was terrible at the Olympics he got a max extension your insane.
At the end of the day, GMs are defined by on court results -- not the perception of if they hypothetically won the offseason.
Remember, the Sixers also "won" the trade wars when they got Jimmy and Tobias until Jimmy walked. They won the offseason in 2019 when they stole Horford from conf rival Celtics with a max contract.... And then they got swept by Boston in the 1st round, Brown got canned, and Brand became a meaningless figurehead with no power behind Morey.
Counter point to each of those Morey takes:
"He got a pick back for Harden"
Morey alienated Harden to a personal degree we've maybe never before seen between a player and FO ("Daryl Morey is a liar and I will never play for a team of his").
Harden has the Clippers above .500 without Leonard (or George of course) while Morey's team is the worst team in the league.
"He signed the best free agent"
Similar to Horford's flop in Philly, Ainge signed the "best max player" in Gordon Hayward and got "the best player available" when he traded for Kyrie. None of that generated results. It only matters if PG13 plays, plays well, and helps them win. Otherwise it's a bad signing.
**Edit So far PG13 has only been out there with Embiid and Maxey for 1 of 14 games (a loss last night to Memphis) and after just 17 mins, he reinjured the same knee (left), suffering the same injury (hyperextension) that occurred in the preseason & caused him to miss the first 5 games. He was 1/6 in those 17 mins and is shooting .383/.278/.815 on the year and averaging less than 15 ppg (hasn't been under 21 ppg since age 2022 in 2012). Best free agent is off to a horrible start.
Morey has signed "other good pieces"
Tim McMahon on the Hoop Collective yesterday:
"The bottomline for the Sixers is that their entire roster, across the board, has only one guy who is playing at or above expectations for him coming into the season. And that's Jared McCain. Caleb Martin has been bad the vast majority of the season. He's had, in the last 2 games, like 5 different turnovers at midcourt. Yabusele has had a couple of moments. And the rest of the team has dramatically played below their expectations, including Tyrese Maxey, who did not play well in a few games before he got hurt. No one can make open shots. They can have all the team meetings they want after every game, but if they don't play dramatically better soon, none of that means anything."
"There is not one single other GM who would not have signed Embiid to the extension"
Clippers just let PG13 walk over 1 year (looks pretty smart at this moment).
Ten years ago, two GMs passed on Embiid in the draft -- despite him being the best talent -- over these same concerns (health) that come with this extension.
Fair or not, GMs STILL usually get fired if you make the move everyone else "would've done" when it doesn't work out.
Similarly, Horst will surely get canned if the Lillard experiment doesn't work -- he already handed Boston a championship with Jrue going out and now he might lose Giannis over the results being bad. Like the Embiid extension take: "any GM would trade Jrue for Lillard" is similar sentiment held by many still. But being forced to choose between difficult options is why GM shelf life is short.
You can love Morey, think he's amazing, and you may even be right. That still may not matter if they miss the play-in and are rebuilding next trade deadline.
