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Eye of the Tiger: The Tidjane Salaun Thread

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Re: Eye of the Tiger: The Tidjane Salaun Thread 

Post#601 » by EmpireFalls » Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:53 pm

He’s just so incredibly dog ****. No feel. No elevation it’s like has no vertical, he is the opposite of in control. ZERO blocks in a Hornets jersey summer league or NBA. I see no path to him ever being decent.
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Post#602 » by vexco » Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:30 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:He’s just so incredibly dog ****. No feel. No elevation it’s like has no vertical, he is the opposite of in control. ZERO blocks in a Hornets jersey summer league or NBA. I see no path to him ever being decent.


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Post#603 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:22 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:He’s just so incredibly dog ****. No feel. No elevation it’s like has no vertical, he is the opposite of in control. ZERO blocks in a Hornets jersey summer league or NBA. I see no path to him ever being decent.
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Post#604 » by Braggins » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:32 pm

Hes the same age as most NCAA freshman right now. He'll look a lot better if some of the outside shots start to fall.
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Post#605 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:38 pm

Braggins wrote:Hes the same age as most NCAA freshman right now. He'll look a lot better if some of the outside shots start to fall.


His baseline building blocks look pretty skimpy.
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Post#606 » by HornetJail » Sun Nov 17, 2024 9:16 am

Usually prospects with absolutely nothing going for them skill-wise, are freak athletes or insanely large. Salaun isn't even that. I continue to just be confused by this pick. I'll withhold full judgement for a couple years and let our player development program cook (if we have one), but I'm having an extremely hard time seeing the vision with this dude.
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Post#607 » by KembaWalker » Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:20 pm

HornetJail wrote:Usually prospects with absolutely nothing going for them skill-wise, are freak athletes or insanely large. Salaun isn't even that. I continue to just be confused by this pick. I'll withhold full judgement for a couple years and let our player development program cook (if we have one), but I'm having an extremely hard time seeing the vision with this dude.


I saw the vision in preseason when was raining 3s. Just hoping it’s a processing of adapting to the speed and well get that in real games soon
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Post#608 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Nov 17, 2024 12:38 pm

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HornetJail wrote:Usually prospects with absolutely nothing going for them skill-wise, are freak athletes or insanely large. Salaun isn't even that. I continue to just be confused by this pick. I'll withhold full judgement for a couple years and let our player development program cook (if we have one), but I'm having an extremely hard time seeing the vision with this dude.


I saw the vision in preseason when was raining 3s. Just hoping it’s a processing of adapting to the speed and well get that in real games soon


I think shooting has become an abundant skill that has reached saturation levels. Unprecedented. They're talking about moving back the 3 line because so many players can capitalize on it as it stands, even players with bodies built to camp in the paint.

The next most precious currency on offense is playmaking. If you can finish plays with shotmaking, can you also set up teammates to finish plays with shotmaking, considering so many can make the 3 these days provided you get them the ball in the right place?

I see 100% zero there.

And ball handling has become a precious peripheral commodity on offense, further creating some slim margin of advantage given baseline shooting in the league, and with the emergence of playmaking bigs and playmaking from bigger positions outside backcourt batteries.

Jesus, if anyone in our scouting department looked at Salaun with the ball in his hands and felt some level of baseline trust in him putting the ball on the floor against an NBA defense, I really cannot explain it.

The dude will need to shoot like Larry Bird.

Unfathomable.
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Post#609 » by JMAC3 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:28 pm

HornetJail wrote:Usually prospects with absolutely nothing going for them skill-wise, are freak athletes or insanely large. Salaun isn't even that. I continue to just be confused by this pick. I'll withhold full judgement for a couple years and let our player development program cook (if we have one), but I'm having an extremely hard time seeing the vision with this dude.


Salaun is probably the most physically imposing player on the Hornets at 6-9 with 7-2 wingspan and 210 lbs. I was at the game yesterday, his size really stands out and he is pretty cut up for turning 19 a month before the season started.

Giannis was 6-9 and 190lbs as a 19 yr old rookie.
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Post#610 » by yosemiteben » Sun Nov 17, 2024 3:58 pm

I'm very happy with Salaun as a prospect, and am just resigned to all the complaining we're gonna have in here throughout the season. I'm willing to be patient, he's shown me enough that I'm not gonna be worried this year.
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Post#611 » by JDR720 » Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:35 pm

I feel like he's going to be one of those weird players who end up being the opposite of their draft profile. Like when Cody Zeller went from "LaMarcus Aldridge" to a broken nose bruiser.

So I think Saluan will end up being a defensive/rebounding PF/C. He's never going to be a plus scorer with his lack of handle and below average athleticism. Whether he can shoot or not will decide if he's a starter or an energy big off the bench.
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Post#612 » by MasterIchiro » Sun Nov 17, 2024 6:46 pm

I concede some (including myself) are short-selling Salaun but also believe in my humble opinion buyers will be left holding the bag. And they seem at least hesitant to pump up stock price. Instead they express caution short term and propose in its place long term share accumulation.

I think the hedge fund owners see Salaun as a penny stock. They gambled with house money given a sustainable portfolio of blue chip stocks held by LaMelo & Brandon (also Mark apparently because they passed on Clingan).

It's a business.

I also think Peterson brought a powerful infusion of energy and belief in the roster and the city spilled over into belief in an energetic prospect.

He is uncoordinated. That doesn't change. We saw it with MKG and Kai Jones.
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Post#613 » by wilson115 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:27 am

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Post#614 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:53 am

Kids 2 or 3 years away but he's going to be perfectly fine. Can't teach that body at that age and he can shoot. He's only going to get bigger and stronger.
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Post#615 » by countryboi » Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:31 am

its weird to me how many people have made their mind up about a kid that is 19 and very very raw
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Post#616 » by GiggitySmalls » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:44 am

countryboi wrote:its weird to me how many people have made their mind up about a kid that is 19 and very very raw
Hard to be enthusiastic about a dude who's shoots 26%

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Post#617 » by NCHeels2008 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:19 am

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countryboi wrote:its weird to me how many people have made their mind up about a kid that is 19 and very very raw
Hard to be enthusiastic about a dude who's shoots 26%

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Kevin Durant shot 28% from 3 his rookie year lol we really doing this?
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Post#618 » by countryboi » Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:42 pm

GiggitySmalls wrote:
countryboi wrote:its weird to me how many people have made their mind up about a kid that is 19 and very very raw
Hard to be enthusiastic about a dude who's shoots 26%

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of all of his issues thats the most fixable.
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Post#619 » by EmpireFalls » Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:33 pm

The shot is legitimately his only good projectable trait.
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Post#620 » by JMAC3 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:43 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:The shot is legitimately his only good projectable trait.


Elite size, good defender, good competitor, good rebounder, good three point shooter.

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