Maxey Challenged Embiid in Team Meeting

[Murray_17]

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Unsurprisingly, it was blown out of proportion.

Again, meetings like this are supposed to be harsh, the team suck balls. For all we know someone could have challenged PG to prove he's not washed or call Nurse a clueless coach, etc.

The idea the entire meeting was defined by one quote is just stupid.

Embiid getting the criticism is warranted, but no one believes the team is 2-11 because Embiid gets late to practices or activities. This is just farming of drama

[Ferry Avenue]

Embiid getting the criticism is warranted, but no one believes the team is 2-11 because Embiid gets late to practices or activities. This is just farming of drama

Has anyone actually said that, that the team is 2-11 only because Embiid is late to things? Or is that just your strawman?

[Mik317]

I bet Devon Givens' inside source is Keith.

To be fair to Devon; he actually does know players who talk with him. He used to have some useful player provided info that he'd share when he was with 97.5 for his evening shows.

it was Mikal Bridges mom who is his cousin IIRC

so maybe not anymore

[M2J]

I bet Devon Givens' inside source is Keith.

To be fair to Devon; he actually does know players who talk with him. He used to have some useful player provided info that he'd share when he was with 97.5 for his evening shows.

He may, but the idea that none of Joel's teammates have had respect for him now or over the years is piggybacking, projecting of the current story, and it's complete BS. I'm not arguing that he may not have been the most professional, showed up in shape, showed up on time.... Been a good leader.

Embiid is respected league wide. That's how talent works. And if/hopefully when he performs again... All this BS will subside. No different than Kawhi having his special treatment it's only an issue when the performance is an issue.

I personally can't allow 3 games of performance in a week to overtake 10 years of franchise carrying elite play just because podcasters and columnists are receiving a boost in viewership over this story after the 76ers losing has led to nobody watching those articles or shows. They're milking it.

Pompey and gargano believe the front office leaked this because of everything they've put into this season and maybe because of Joel's comments to the media after the meeting. It's all dumb

[sixers hoops]

Yes, tanking despite what we tried to do. Math is math; no matter what you tried to do on paper, math is math and this team is perilously close to being in a hole where the math tells you they aren't digging out. If the team pulls the plug they can turn around and use the season to keep Joel in an aggressive medical rehab program to get him right for next season while targeting for a prospect that you hope turns into a league top talent that can replace Joel in case his body is just broken permanently.

Tanking would be prudent, but the math is the math, and this team is nowhere close to being out of any playoff race. They are four games out of the five seed with 69 games left. They could make that up with 20 games left. Vegas has them at an 80% chance of making the playoffs. Their three stars have missed time. Even if Embiid can’t play, they likely have too much talent to finish in the bottom six without him. Without legitimate injuries, once they get healthy, they are prob too good to finish low enough to keep their pick.

https://www.sportscasting.com/news/76ers-hold-a-60-4-chance-to-make-playoffs-after-starting-2-11/

This one already has us down to 60%. 8 teams have started 2-11 and made playoffs. Neither of the 2 most recent teams to do it already announced 1 if not 2 of their 3 best players won't play back to backs. So there's literally no comparison for what this team would have to do to achieve a playoff spot. Let's also not pretend that any of us believe Joel and PG13 get healthy and stay healthy all year long.

Yeah, but I don’t think teams as talented as our’s often start 2-11. In recent years, the play-in games have expanded the number of teams still in the playoff hunt by making it more feasible. The East has only four teams over .500. Our situation is a little unusual because our three stars all missed several games. And even if they don’t make the playoffs, they only keep the pick if it’s top 6. I think our roster is too strong to finish bottom six.

I would prefer to tank because Embiid’s knees are just about done, but I don’t see us realistically getting a bottom 6 pick. Vegas has our over-under at 41.5 wins. Last year the NBA had seven teams with under 30 wins. Without intentionally tanking, I think we win too many games to keep our pick.

That 41.5 number might assume Embiid comes back healthy enough to give us a stretch of MVP caliber basketball. Taking the under could be a strong bet. They would have to go 40-29 to hit that mark. From what we’ve seen so far, that would prob only happen with a healthy Joel.

I think I’m mostly skeptical about their ability to finish in the bottom 6 where they could likely keep their pick.

[Black Mage]

Tanking would be prudent, but the math is the math, and this team is nowhere close to being out of any playoff race. They are four games out of the five seed with 69 games left. They could make that up with 20 games left. Vegas has them at an 80% chance of making the playoffs. Their three stars have missed time. Even if Embiid can’t play, they likely have too much talent to finish in the bottom six without him. Without legitimate injuries, once they get healthy, they are prob too good to finish low enough to keep their pick.

https://www.sportscasting.com/news/76ers-hold-a-60-4-chance-to-make-playoffs-after-starting-2-11/

This one already has us down to 60%. 8 teams have started 2-11 and made playoffs. Neither of the 2 most recent teams to do it already announced 1 if not 2 of their 3 best players won't play back to backs. So there's literally no comparison for what this team would have to do to achieve a playoff spot. Let's also not pretend that any of us believe Joel and PG13 get healthy and stay healthy all year long.

Yeah, but I don’t think teams as talented as our’s often start 2-11. In recent years, the play-in games have expanded the number of teams still in the playoff hunt by making it more feasible. The East has only four teams over .500. Our situation is a little unusual because our three stars all missed several games. And even if they don’t make the playoffs, they only keep the pick if it’s top 6. I think our roster is too strong to finish bottom six.

I would prefer to tank because Embiid’s knees are just about done, but I don’t see us realistically getting a bottom 6 pick. Vegas has our over-under at 41.5 wins. Last year the NBA had seven teams with under 30 wins. Without intentionally tanking, I think we win too many games to keep our pick.

That 41.5 number might assume Embiid comes back healthy enough to give us a stretch of MVP caliber basketball. Taking the under could be a strong bet. They would have to go 40-29 to hit that mark. From what we’ve seen so far, that would prob only happen with a healthy Joel.

I think I’m mostly skeptical about their ability to finish in the bottom 6 where they could likely keep their pick.

One of the teams to make it was Lebron's Lakers. I won't even compare them to us because Lebron actually devotes himself being ready to play and is almost always mentally locked in.

[phillynative]

who's the a$$h0le now.

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"Bryan Colangelo's burner accounts were used to criticize Joel Embiid, among other players and personnel. The accounts made negative comments about Embiid's behavior and performance, questioning his dedication and professionalism. These criticisms were often harsh and personal, reflecting a negative view of Embiid's character and contributions to the team"

Colangelo is the ****. He is a 50 year old man creating burner accounts on Twitter to complain about his superstar player. Just deal with it like an adult, ffs.

That was odd. Didn't they make an attempt to blame it on his wife

[76ciology]

Do you think EVERYTHING is catching up with Jojo?

Every year seems to follow the same script—getting eliminated in the second round after what often feels like a meaningless regular season. We’ve seen it all from Embiid: 50 point games, 60 point games, an MVP, All-NBA honors, All-Star appearances, and even earning the first seed. It’s like the regular season has become a formality where the team’s talent alone secures wins, much like playoff first-round matchups where we’re expected to breeze through due to being the superior team. Except for last season, when it felt like the team was punting for an offseason overhaul and maybe Embiid wants to rest to get ready for the Olympics. The media refuses to evaluate this team anything before the playoffs. Even the fans seem disengaged, treating the regular season as a countdown clock to the postseason, where the real challenges begin.

Joel Embiid has essentially been on load management EVEN before his rookie year, and now we’re 10 seasons into this approach. Don’t get me wrong, it was the right approach given his health conditions but I find this made him not build any endurance or grit to fight through pressure. It’s as if every NBA season has become routine—like playing a video game where you’re stuck in the same cycle, replaying the early stages over and over until they feel mundane and uninspiring. The regular season is a chore, and the playoffs are the only thing that matters to him.


Embiid’s own words reflect this mindset: “I may never play another back-to-back for the rest of my career.” It’s clear he prioritizes the playoffs over the regular season. His approach now seems to be letting others take the reins— calling Maxey as “The Franchise”, calling Drummond and asking him to fill in, and the addition of a star wing in Paul George to make sure everything’s alright. It mirrors what he sees from his “big brother” Jimmy Butler in Miami, where seeding isn’t the priority, regular season is worthless and it’s all just playoff readiness.

But maybe he’s pushed this too far. It’s not just about his personal mindset anymore; it’s about how this affects the team where most guys are vets who are fighting to stay in the league. If he’s “sleepwalking” through the regular season, not participating or being late in team activies and asking then to do the regular season work for him, it might feel to them like they’re doing all the cooking in the regular season while he’s waiting for the playoffs to feast. That could make them feel disrespected in the process.

It’s not just that Jojo seems uninspired during the regular season (maybe its the awards that only inspires him)—he’s never truly built the endurance to sustain a high level of play across an entire year. From the beginning of his NBA career, he’s been managed with extreme caution, almost to a fault. The early seasons of strict load management were understandable due to his injuries, but over the years, this approach may have prevented him from developing the physical and mental toughness required to push through fatigue and adversity consistently.

[Wilfried]

Joel needs a mental check-up, as much as a physical

But I'm at the point where we need to try to move on. We've tried now for 10 seasons, and the moment where he gets all the pieces around him to finally have no excuses, he:
- starts the season completely out of shape (again, and again, and again)
- shows no hunger whatsoever
- starts talking about never playing back-to-backs
- gets in a shuffle with a journalist
- doesn't takes accountability for nothing, so Maxey has to confront him
- ...

Send him too Milwaukee, don't see that much teams that could take the gamble, take back salary and as much picks you can and start a new process

This season is over I'm afraid. Let's make the most of it in a smart way

[Revived]

Edit: Just saw the Lou update on the story.

[M2J]

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Sounds like Embiid is more mad at the leak than worrying about being on time and actually you know, being a professional.

He had 35 and 11. This story is as dead as the Sixers ability to win a game

[Negrodamus]

Yea the problem is not Embiid. He was just his old self this game. The problem was everyone not named Yabu, McCain, and I'll give Martin the benefit of the doubt as he didn't shoot us out of the game and he played with immense effort on defense. 3pts on both ends killed us, so if we're not going to make them, we need to figure out how to stop them from killing us.

PG is what he is at this point, especially now that he's injured; but Maxey cannot be a dud anymore.

[Ferry Avenue]

Do you think EVERYTHING is catching up with Jojo?

Every year seems to follow the same script—getting eliminated in the second round after what often feels like a meaningless regular season. We’ve seen it all from Embiid: 50 point games, 60 point games, an MVP, All-NBA honors, All-Star appearances, and even earning the first seed.

Joel Embiid has essentially been on load management EVEN before his rookie year, and now we’re 10 seasons into this approach. Don’t get me wrong, it was the right approach given his health conditions but I find this made him not build any endurance or grit to fight through pressure. It’s as if every NBA season has become routine—like playing a video game where you’re stuck in the same cycle, replaying the early stages over and over until they feel mundane and uninspiring. The regular season is a chore, and the playoffs are the only thing that matters to him. It’s like the regular season has become a formality where the team’s talent alone secures wins, much like playoff first-round matchups where we’re expected to breeze through due to being the superior team. Except for last season, when it felt like the team was punting for an offseason overhaul and maybe Embiid wants to rest to get ready for the Olympics. The media refuses to evaluate this team anything before the playoffs. Even the fans seem disengaged, treating the regular season as a countdown clock to the postseason, where the real challenges begin.


Embiid’s own words reflect this mindset: “I may never play another back-to-back for the rest of my career.” It’s clear he prioritizes the playoffs over the regular season. His approach now seems to be letting others take the reins— calling Maxey as “The Franchise”, calling Drummond and asking him to fill in, and the addition of a star wing in Paul George to make sure everything’s alright. It mirrors what he sees from his “big brother” Jimmy Butler in Miami, where seeding isn’t the priority, regular season is worthless and it’s all just playoff readiness.

But maybe he’s pushed this too far. It’s not just about his personal mindset anymore; it’s about how this affects the team where most guys are vets who are fighting to stay in the league. If he’s “sleepwalking” through the regular season, not participating or being late in team activies and asking then to do the regular season work for him, it might feel to them like they’re doing all the cooking in the regular season while he’s waiting for the playoffs to feast. That could make them feel disrespected in the process.

It’s not just that Jojo seems uninspired during the regular season (maybe its the awards that only inspires him)—he’s never truly built the endurance to sustain a high level of play across an entire year. From the beginning of his NBA career, he’s been managed with extreme caution, almost to a fault. The early seasons of strict load management were understandable due to his injuries, but over the years, this approach may have prevented him from developing the physical and mental toughness required to push through fatigue and adversity consistently.

Embiid is no different now from the person and player he was when he left Toronto crying after game 7 in 2019 and then laid an egg when the team played there for the first time again early the next season. That's not a person with resilience.

Here is that game:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201911250TOR.html

35 minutes, zero points. 0 for 11 shooting. The exact opposite of what you'd expect under those conditions.

Whatever within him that was responsible for that is the same thing within him currently. There are flashes of brilliance, sure, and of course he did win the MVP, but the grit and mettle that makes players lead teams to NBA titles simply isn't there and never will be.

[Negrodamus]

A lot of people of Reddit/Twitter have been saying that Gordon is know for being a leaker on previous stops in his career. If it comes out that he did, I’d cut him instantly as he serves no purpose on this team.

[Sixersftw]

A lot of people of Reddit/Twitter have been saying that Gordon is know for being a leaker on previous stops in his career. If it comes out that he did, I’d cut him instantly as he serves no purpose on this team.

I've also heard that this is Nurse's M.O. and some of the language in Sham's original report (elephant in the room) is a phrase often used by Nurse.

[76ciology]

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I also believe this to be true and was about to post how I felt the chemistry is luke warm at best between George and Embiid.

But Embiid had that moment in the NBA finals with George so I shrugged it away.

[M2J]

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I also believe this to be true and was about to post how I felt the chemistry is luke warm at best between George and Embiid.

But Embiid had that moment in the NBA finals with George so I shrugged it away.

Just more fake news from pretend insiders. Joel knew the plan, like Maxey knew the plan, like we all knew the plan when they were willing to let Harden walk to Houston in Summer 2023. Free agency, likely George. Butler would've required assets that he's not worth because he doesn't play either, even this season he's missed much of it

[stormi]

159 DRTG with Embiid off the court



This roster is old and flatout garbage. Sit Embiid and go all out for a top three pick and try and win one in his age 33 y/o season Admiral style.

Either that or trade him right now and blow it up. There's not path to anything besides mediocracy trying to figure out how to salvage this current situation.

[WentzerWuver]

159 DRTG with Embiid off the court



This roster is old and flatout garbage. Sit Embiid and go all out for a top three pick and try and win one in his age 33 y/o season Admiral style.

Either that or trade him right now and blow it up. There's not path to anything besides mediocracy trying to figure out how to salvage this current situation.

Why don't you stop trolling on other teams or are you still upset with employee #25?

[Decipher]

Nets fan but watch plenty of Sixers games

Like many of you, I don’t understand why your management hasn’t prioritised some length and rebounding ability (preferably with the ability to make the odd outside shot)

You guys have needed a stretch big for years to take some of the physical pressure off Joel