Nick Nurse Is Overrated

[Jabroni Lames]

I just said he's a more decorated Thibs.

Nah, Nurse is at least 1 tier below Thibs. We just saw it last playoffs. Thibs coached circles around Nurse. And the so-called defensive "MasterMind" Nurse, couldn't even stop 5'10" Jalen Brunson, when he was the only real scoring threat. That was supposed to be Nurse's wheelhouse, especially considering that they specifically brought him in for the playoffs... to do better than Doc Rivers.

Good lord man, Brunson is Brunson.

And yes, i'm sure even now 76ers fans will still take Nurse over Doc, heck even Buck fans might.

In the end Nurse did coach a 53 win post Kawhi Raptors team before it all fell apart seasons after.

You really do hate the guy lol.

lol. Actually no hate directly on Nurse here. It's more directed at the posters.

I started this OP with a simple observation that Nurse couldn't win without Embiid, and got absolutely trashed. I cannot believe the incredibly hard blow-back you get when you even hint that Nurse isn't a top 2 coach in the NBA, when his actual track record is no better than: Bud, Vogel, Carlisle, Malone, Doc, Tye Lue, Thibs, etc..... none of whom are talked about in revered tones as: elite mastermind, genius, innovator, etc...

You can build any narrative around any coach, since you can never actually pin wins and losses on them. But with Nurse, for some reason you are not allowed to utter a negative word, even if he performs worse than Doc. I've never seen a coach being so protected by rabid fans like this ever before.

Oh, and Nurse inherited a 59-win Lowry-led Raptors team, which upgraded to Kawhi, Gasol and Green + growth of FVV, Siakam, OG & Powell and turned that into a .... 58-win team. Also got lucky in the playoffs because Lebron went east & KD/Klay got hurt.

[Jabroni Lames]

Hey... remember Buddy Hield? The guy who sucked so badly that he couldn't even get bench minutes for Nick Nurse?

Well... he's off to a career year start under Steve Kerr.

[IAMZOOTED2]

Hey... remember Buddy Hield? The guy who sucked so badly that he couldn't even get bench minutes for Nick Nurse?

Well... he's off to a career year start under Steve Kerr.

Hold up. I'm with you for the most part here, but claiming Chavano Rainier didn't get the chance to shine last year under Nurse is unfair and kind of inaccurate.

[doogie_hauser]

Either Morey or Nurse are overrated.

The Celtics have won in the past without either of the Jays playing.

Now granted Philly have a bog average squad with no depth, but whose fault is that ?

Regardless its obvious Philly fans have been sold a lemon.

At this point I would keep Nurse on but fire Daryl Morey. Most overrated GM in NBA history.

[microjacklin]

He's a good coach but clear overrated by some raptors fan

[Ssj16]

Nurse is a tactician, but one of his biggest flaws is if your roster isn't talented enough he rides your best players, basically to the ground.

Maxey is leading the league per game by 4.6 more then the next guy atm.

He's a more decorated Thibs.

It's the opposite. When your roster is depleted, that's where it becomes clear just how good a tactician the coach is to make up for the lack of talent. Not saying you Sixers need to be 5-0 without Embiid, but Nurse just falls right off the map when Embiid sits. At that point, it becomes very foggy just how good Nurse actually is.

All you ever hear about Nurse is: Mastermind, Genius, Tactician, Innovator, Elite.... top 2 coach in the NBA, after Spo.

And to give him his flowers... yes, Nurse's defensive schemes were definitely innovative for a few seasons with the Raptors. But they were quickly solved by opposition coaches and he hasn't done much since then. And Nurse has always ran one of the least imaginative offenses in the NBA, from Day 1 when he started coaching Kawhi.

I mean, even Doc Rivers and Brett Brown got further with Embiid, than Nurse in the playoffs. His playoff record (and missing it altogether) is absolutely terrible after Kawhi left Toronto. That's 2019 folks. A long time ago, by NBA standards.

This last statement isn't fair. The Philly team was gutted last year with the Harden trade. In fact, you could give Nurse some credit for allowing Maxey to grow.

Now they have once again been hit with the injury bug so we have yet to see how it plays out.

[Jabroni Lames]

Nurse is a tactician, but one of his biggest flaws is if your roster isn't talented enough he rides your best players, basically to the ground.

Maxey is leading the league per game by 4.6 more then the next guy atm.

He's a more decorated Thibs.

It's the opposite. When your roster is depleted, that's where it becomes clear just how good a tactician the coach is to make up for the lack of talent. Not saying you Sixers need to be 5-0 without Embiid, but Nurse just falls right off the map when Embiid sits. At that point, it becomes very foggy just how good Nurse actually is.

All you ever hear about Nurse is: Mastermind, Genius, Tactician, Innovator, Elite.... top 2 coach in the NBA, after Spo.

And to give him his flowers... yes, Nurse's defensive schemes were definitely innovative for a few seasons with the Raptors. But they were quickly solved by opposition coaches and he hasn't done much since then. And Nurse has always ran one of the least imaginative offenses in the NBA, from Day 1 when he started coaching Kawhi.

I mean, even Doc Rivers and Brett Brown got further with Embiid, than Nurse in the playoffs. His playoff record (and missing it altogether) is absolutely terrible after Kawhi left Toronto. That's 2019 folks. A long time ago, by NBA standards.

This last statement isn't fair. The Philly team was gutted last year with the Harden trade. In fact, you could give Nurse some credit for allowing Maxey to grow.

Now they have once again been hit with the injury bug so we have yet to see how it plays out.

Gutted? smh. Gutted, is when you trade your top 2 players for picks. See how Nurse supporters spin everything? Sixers got veteran bench depth to balance out the roster for Harden, adding depth to the reigning MVP and a fast rising all-star. Maxey doesn't grow without trading Harden and giving Maxey more on ball responsibility. That has nothing to do with Nurse. Maxey was already on the fast development track under Doc... or even moreso because he's a super hard worker who puts in the time in the off-season.

But that's how it goes with Nurse supporters. Nurse gets all the credit for anything good (even if you can't connect it directly)... but everything bad is the fault of his players or GM.

Speaking of gutted... how about Nurse and the bottom dwelling 1-6 Sixers, getting beat by a Clippers team that is truly gutted at the moment. Ty Lue >> Nurse.

And shout-out Jordi Fernandez, who is leading the extremely gutted Brooklyn Nets to a 4-4 record.

And where are those posters who said Nurse > Bud? 7-1 Suns leading the West, with Bud doing his thing for yet another franchise. Bud >>> Nurse.

[TheAlchemist]

It's not Nick Nurse who's responsible for:
1. Having a roster without young athletic players.
2. Signing old Veterans that have no athletic side left to their game
3. Having Roster turn over year after year.
4. Having a chronic underperformer franchise player, who constantly gets injured.

Nurse by far was the best coach the Raptors had. He squeezed every ounce of every player out. The thing he DID NOT do, was prioritize player development over team wins. He won at any cost.

Hence why you see us losing now, with Chris Boucher having a career year. Under Nurse, Boucher had spot energy minutes because a winning team won't run players like that.

Forget Box and one, Nurse had players memorizing 3 different defensive systems, and switching between all 3 in a game. It was beautiful.

[Jabroni Lames]

So Nurse can't even win with Embiid now?

[Jabroni Lames]

Hey, guess which coach has his team in last place in the entire NBA?

[DLoMor]

Hey, guess which coach has his team in last place in the entire NBA?

Worst coach in the NBA along with Ty Lue. They both got lucky stars carried them to a championship and extended their careers by like 20 years.

[Jabroni Lames]

Hey, guess which coach has his team in last place in the entire NBA?

Worst coach in the NBA along with Ty Lue. They both got lucky stars carried him to a championship and extended their careers by like 20 years.

Well at least Ty Lue is showing us something this year. He lost his best 2 players (Kawhi & PG), but still has his team playing competitive in the tough Western conference. Nurse is basically coaching like Tim Floyd and hasn't done squat since he was gifted a deep and balanced Raptors squad with motivated vets and rising young stars, who played both sides of the court. That team was so deep that they had a better record when Kawhi didn't play, and also when he left. In hindsight, an all-time defensive squad.

[The Rainmaker]

Has everybody and his team gets dominated by the hospital Grizzlies. (They were down by 15 win a little over 3 minutes left so the game wasn't as close as the final score).

[Jabroni Lames]

Nick Nurse is a top 2 coach in this league.

You're holding up the tiniest scrap of negativity and being like: is this heavier than the mountain of evidence that Nurse is a great coach?

The answer is no.

I guess they don’t make Top 2 coaches like they used to.

[anotherhomer]

nick nurse is a guy who can flat out coach but can't manage a locker room really....

daryl morey isn't good at managing locker room issues either

[doogie_hauser]

Hey, guess which coach has his team in last place in the entire NBA?

Worst coach in the NBA along with Ty Lue. They both got lucky stars carried them to a championship and extended their careers by like 20 years.

Rubbish Lue is a championship coach who gets so damn much out of a rather limited and injury struck roster.

One could argue that he is the Clippers most valuable asset (more than any other player)

Philly have had injuries but no way should they have started the season 2-12

[baldur]

Imagine a kawhi Leonard without injuries. He could have had maybe 3 or 4 rings at least.

[microjacklin]

It's not Nick Nurse who's responsible for:
1. Having a roster without young athletic players.
2. Signing old Veterans that have no athletic side left to their game
3. Having Roster turn over year after year.
4. Having a chronic underperformer franchise player, who constantly gets injured.

Nurse by far was the best coach the Raptors had. He squeezed every ounce of every player out. The thing he DID NOT do, was prioritize player development over team wins. He won at any cost.

Hence why you see us losing now, with Chris Boucher having a career year. Under Nurse, Boucher had spot energy minutes because a winning team won't run players like that.

Forget Box and one, Nurse had players memorizing 3 different defensive systems, and switching between all 3 in a game. It was beautiful.

Yeah, it's funny there's alway "that's not NN fault" from Raptors to 76ers

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Anything that touches this franchise suffers.

[Potential]

Nurse isn't the reason PG is garbage and Embiid is soft. Sixers are better off starting the inevitable rebuild this season. See what u can get for the soft Embiid and run a quick rebuild ur already the worst team in the east might as well go all in and tank for Flagg. Maxey McCain + 2025 pick + Embiid haul