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Re: PG Bulls - Solid Win 

Post#81 » by Daver » Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:02 am

rilamann wrote:Trade Dame for a couple solid contributors and I will legit be optimistic about this Bucks team in the 2nd half of this season.




Dude 7 ....repeat 7 games is all doc has had since he got here to see the big 3 play together.Stop it on the trading dame BS FFS.Hes not going anywhere until the big 3 have played together.Stats show when they do they are nearly the best in basketball.
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Post#82 » by randy84 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:26 pm

aboveAverage wrote:When do we have to start giving Doc credit for developing our young guys? Last season we thought we had no quality contributors other than our core 5-7 guys. Now we have young guys blossoming as we speak.

I’m really excited about this team. With Giannis playing at an MVP level, Khris coming back at some point, and a future trade, we could really have something here.


Still not a Doc fan, but I will give him credit for getting Giannis to understand it is a team game. There was a point in the 4th when Giannis came down and took a quick shot with the lead and Doc immediately called a timeout to explain that they don't need a quick shot in that situation. Even in Giannis' post game interviews, you can hear him talk about getting easy baskets and how Dame helped him getting going with easy passes at the rim and how he can pick his spots. I think Giannis is finally learning he doesn't have to always going barrelling into defenders from the top of the key and that he does have help besides Middleton.
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Re: PG Bulls - Solid Win 

Post#83 » by pifhluk23 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:33 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:It looks like Giannis and Dame are just coexisting, don’t know if they complement each other out there


Shaq/Kobe won 3 chips this way, it's fine. The problem isn't our 2 best players, its the missing 3rd best and then Bobby and Brook depending on the matchup. Backup pg is non existent as well but that's fine too when we get down to an 8-9 rotation in the playoffs.
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Re: PG Bulls - Solid Win 

Post#84 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:34 pm

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rilamann wrote:Trade Dame for a couple solid contributors and I will legit be optimistic about this Bucks team in the 2nd half of this season.




Dude 7 ....repeat 7 games is all doc has had since he got here to see the big 3 play together.Stop it on the trading dame BS FFS.Hes not going anywhere until the big 3 have played together.Stats show when they do they are nearly the best in basketball.


Lineups with Giannis, Khris, Brook, and another good player have been dominant for years, this isn't exclusive to Dame. However, Brook doesn't have the same impact come playoff time, and the 5th player in these lineups has been consistently useless come playoff time. We also know Dame will get targeted defensively in the playoffs. Some of us would like to fix these issues.

Prime Dame might be interesting, but he's not even close to that guy anymore. Important to move him now before the league figures out he's the PG version of Zach Lavine.
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Post#85 » by pifhluk23 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:40 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
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rilamann wrote:Trade Dame for a couple solid contributors and I will legit be optimistic about this Bucks team in the 2nd half of this season.




Dude 7 ....repeat 7 games is all doc has had since he got here to see the big 3 play together.Stop it on the trading dame BS FFS.Hes not going anywhere until the big 3 have played together.Stats show when they do they are nearly the best in basketball.


Lineups with Giannis, Khris, Brook, and another good player have been dominant for years, this isn't exclusive to Dame. However, Brook didn't have the same impact come playoff time, and the 5th player in these lineups had been consistently useless come playoff time. We also know Dame will get targeted defensively in the playoffs. Some of us would like to fix these issues.

Prime Dame might be interesting, but he's not even close to that guy anymore.


Dame is literally exactly what we need... When we fired Bud it was cause we couldn't score when it mattered and now we literally have one of the most clutch players in the league + Middleton if he every comes back. Some of you are just seriously confused, there is a very short list of people I would trade Dame for right now and once the playoffs hit and he's carrying us in 4th quarter scoring all the salt will be revealed.
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Re: PG Bulls - Solid Win 

Post#86 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:57 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:
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Dude 7 ....repeat 7 games is all doc has had since he got here to see the big 3 play together.Stop it on the trading dame BS FFS.Hes not going anywhere until the big 3 have played together.Stats show when they do they are nearly the best in basketball.


Lineups with Giannis, Khris, Brook, and another good player have been dominant for years, this isn't exclusive to Dame. However, Brook didn't have the same impact come playoff time, and the 5th player in these lineups had been consistently useless come playoff time. We also know Dame will get targeted defensively in the playoffs. Some of us would like to fix these issues.

Prime Dame might be interesting, but he's not even close to that guy anymore.


Dame is literally exactly what we need... When we fired Bud it was cause we couldn't score when it mattered and now we literally have one of the most clutch players in the league + Middleton if he every comes back. Some of you are just seriously confused, there is a very short list of people I would trade Dame for right now and once the playoffs hit and he's carrying us in 4th quarter scoring all the salt will be revealed.


He wasn't even close to doing that last year. He's not that guy anymore
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Post#87 » by yb90 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:14 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
pifhluk23 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Lineups with Giannis, Khris, Brook, and another good player have been dominant for years, this isn't exclusive to Dame. However, Brook didn't have the same impact come playoff time, and the 5th player in these lineups had been consistently useless come playoff time. We also know Dame will get targeted defensively in the playoffs. Some of us would like to fix these issues.

Prime Dame might be interesting, but he's not even close to that guy anymore.


Dame is literally exactly what we need... When we fired Bud it was cause we couldn't score when it mattered and now we literally have one of the most clutch players in the league + Middleton if he every comes back. Some of you are just seriously confused, there is a very short list of people I would trade Dame for right now and once the playoffs hit and he's carrying us in 4th quarter scoring all the salt will be revealed.


He wasn't even close to doing that last year. He's not that guy anymore


He just is not hitting his 3 ball. Everything else is above or close to his career avg. He is shooting 2s at 55% and getting to the line 7 times. His long ball will likely come around.
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Post#88 » by Jez2983 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:26 pm

-Jragon- wrote:I was impressed with the action we were running this game and on D we mostly were challenging shots.

I think I saw like 4 or 5 lobs by us today and another 4 or 5 finds on cuts.. tons of "1 more pass" to find good shooters standing alone off of gravity or drive and kick. I liked that pick and roll pass to the ft line area and the catcher there with a triple threat and great passing angles


We looked very different. I think Giannis and Dame are starting to get each other, not so much setting up Dame on the outside yet, but Dame passing to a rolling Giannis/throwing him a lob is worlds better than last year.

Giannis' passing has definitely improved. As has the way we're using Brook offensively. I love AJ Green. We need that backup big, and either Khris or Rollins or AJ Johnson to turn into something.
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Post#89 » by LatentFrog » Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:47 pm

If the Dame/Giannis 2 man game can get anywhere close to this Dame/Brook 2 man game we'll be cooking. I don't think Dame trusts Giannis to be in the right spot. Giannis is the man but he somehow still needs work on his off ball movement.
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Post#90 » by KidA24 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:16 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
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No, it's because defenses play it differently. If they give Brook any attention on the roll, Dame kicks to Giannis who's 1 on 1 with a head of steam. That's why they airways have Giannis cutting on the weakside.


So, you're saying that teams are leaving shooters wide open to triple or quadruple the Dame Giannis action and Dame isn't passing the ball? Lol


Where do you think his 10 assists came from tonight?


Let's go to the tape!

Assist 1: PnR with Brook.
Assist 2: Assist to Giannis
3: Giannis wasn't on the floor
4: Giannis wasn't on the floor
5: Giannis wasn't on the floor
6: Giannis wasn't on the floor
7 through 9: Assist to Giannis
10: PnR with Brook

So..... no?
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Post#92 » by MissKhriddleton » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:20 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
pifhluk23 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Lineups with Giannis, Khris, Brook, and another good player have been dominant for years, this isn't exclusive to Dame. However, Brook didn't have the same impact come playoff time, and the 5th player in these lineups had been consistently useless come playoff time. We also know Dame will get targeted defensively in the playoffs. Some of us would like to fix these issues.

Prime Dame might be interesting, but he's not even close to that guy anymore.


Dame is literally exactly what we need... When we fired Bud it was cause we couldn't score when it mattered and now we literally have one of the most clutch players in the league + Middleton if he every comes back. Some of you are just seriously confused, there is a very short list of people I would trade Dame for right now and once the playoffs hit and he's carrying us in 4th quarter scoring all the salt will be revealed.


He wasn't even close to doing that last year. He's not that guy anymore

He was hurt, fat, and sad last playoffs.
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Post#93 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:22 pm

Gotta give Bobby credit. He didn't shoot great but this was by far the most unselfish, team-oriented ball he's played all season. Can't remember a game where he's ever had 6 assists (guess he had a 7 assist game with us once in 2022-23). The defense is still a major issue, but getting him back to being a plus offensive player would be huge.
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Post#94 » by -Jragon- » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:26 pm

KidA24 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
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So, you're saying that teams are leaving shooters wide open to triple or quadruple the Dame Giannis action and Dame isn't passing the ball? Lol


Where do you think his 10 assists came from tonight?


Let's go to the tape!

Assist 1: PnR with Brook.
Assist 2: Assist to Giannis
3: Giannis wasn't on the floor
4: Giannis wasn't on the floor
5: Giannis wasn't on the floor
6: Giannis wasn't on the floor
7 through 9: Assist to Giannis
10: PnR with Brook

So..... no?



This is a good win... everyone played well and we have some momentum. Why are we arguing about stuff.. we should be doing those lottery ball emojis.
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Post#95 » by Daver » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:28 pm

yb90 wrote:
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pifhluk23 wrote:
Dame is literally exactly what we need... When we fired Bud it was cause we couldn't score when it mattered and now we literally have one of the most clutch players in the league + Middleton if he every comes back. Some of you are just seriously confused, there is a very short list of people I would trade Dame for right now and once the playoffs hit and he's carrying us in 4th quarter scoring all the salt will be revealed.


He wasn't even close to doing that last year. He's not that guy anymore


He just is not hitting his 3 ball. Everything else is above or close to his career avg. He is shooting 2s at 55% and getting to the line 7 times. His long ball will likely come around.





Trent is looking like he has discovered his shot again and hopefully just a matter of time b4 hes playing next to dame again.
Cant wait to see the lineup of dame trent midds giannis n lopez hitting on all cylinders should be very fun to watch
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Post#96 » by -Jragon- » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:29 pm

Oh yeah and FU Chicago lol
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Post#97 » by German Athens » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:31 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Gotta give Bobby credit. He didn't shoot great but this was by far the most unselfish, team-oriented ball he's played all season. Can't remember a game where he's ever had 6 assists (guess he had a 7 assist game with us once in 2022-23). The defense is still a major issue, but getting him back to being a plus offensive player would be huge.


That zone breaker, where he flashed middle and quickly passed the ball to Giannis who had the smaller defender sealed was maybe my favorite Bobby play of the past few years.

He had a really nice offensive game.

There were still a few times where the ball got caught, but it was pretty balanced from him.

A game like this does really highlight what Larry Nance could do for us, though. He’s such a cerebral player, and he would more frequently make those types of passes. Bigs who can pass is such an incredibly underrated skill, and it can absolutely shred teams.
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Post#98 » by -Jragon- » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:34 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Gotta give Bobby credit. He didn't shoot great but this was by far the most unselfish, team-oriented ball he's played all season. Can't remember a game where he's ever had 6 assists (guess he had a 7 assist game with us once in 2022-23). The defense is still a major issue, but getting him back to being a plus offensive player would be huge.


I'll go a step further... imagine he learns that he can't jump but you can play defense without it -- think Ersan/ K.Love.. imagine he learns positional defense and comes in for 20 min of that and the post ups. He would be a major X factor
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Post#99 » by BuckFan25226 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:34 pm

Setting Greens lights out shooting aside. He needs to be getting minimum of 25 mpg at this point due to his ability to defend. He's our best perimeter outside defender outside AJJ and can guard 1 to 3.
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Post#100 » by BigO » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:43 pm

1) I was an early Green supporter, since I've watched him since his AAU days playing in Milwaukee. But the orgasmic reaction to him is still pretty funny.

2) BP had an excellent game. Last season he was doubled a lot on his post-ups and last night they did it a few times and he burned them big-time. But apparently there are still haters who thought he had a bad game.

3) I'm not in the trade Dame group, but his defense is pretty bad. Bucks defense is 15th in the league now, which isn't horrible.

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