Thaddy wrote:Scizzup wrote:Thaddy wrote:Yeah I do. I see the parts where he passes to SGA at the 3pt line and he dribbles past two defenders and finishes against rim defense which is then recorded as an assist.
There are obvious advantages playing with a superstar. When he drives SGA defender sticks to him like they do against Dick but to a higher degree.
Jalen Williams is better than Barnes. there really should be no argument the last 2 seasons imo. He is a better ball handler/slasher/shooter and defender. The only thing Barnes does better is passing.
Jalen is contesting same volume of shots at rim as Jarett Allen and has a 3% stl and blk%. Barnes has never played defense like this in any 10 game stretch.
Using this season at all isn't fair to Barnes. He came back rusty played 4 games and got an eye injury. In terms of help and team defense Barnes has the better tools and projects to be better. Williams play with SGA, Chet, and a few other guys who are better than anyone the Raptors have on their roster. Toronto's had a harder schedule this season too and that also matters.
I am also using last season when both were healthy, there is no argument for Scottie outside the fact that Jdub plays with Shai (so people are apprehensive to give Jalen is due credit). Scottie would not be as effective on OKC though. He is never going to be the self creator or shooter that Jdub is and now that Jdub is just as good at defense, what is the case for him? I am taking roster makeup into account but the one area Barnes should clearly dominate these guys at (defense) he hasn't. Its not even a roster thing cause we should still be able to his impact on defense looking under the hood even on a bad team. there is not much there for Barnes like previous defensive beasts on bad teams Ak47/KG for example.
22/5/5 and 3 stocks a game on 60% TS and 7.5 BPM just of raw box numbers for Jalen. he is top 15 on most impact metrics. I don't think Jdub will continue playing defense like this but if he does he getting all defense and all nba, quite easily too.
I held this opinion last season too, if Barnes does not become the defender that he was projected to be he just will never be a top 20 player in the league. This is because is offense will never be as valuable due to his meh shot creation and pull up shooting.