PG Bulls - Solid Win

[-Jragon-]

1) I was an early Green supporter, since I've watched him since his AAU days playing in Milwaukee. But the orgasmic reaction to him is still pretty funny.

2) BP had an excellent game. Last season he was doubled a lot on his post-ups and last night they did it a few times and he burned them big-time. But apparently there are still haters who thought he had a bad game.

3) I'm not in the trade Dame group, but his defense is pretty bad. Bucks defense is 15th in the league now, which isn't horrible.

1. When we finally have a true 3 and D guy again it's very valuable
2. Go Bobby!
3. Late game Dame was shuffling his feet more than usual; he made Giddey pass out of the matchup a couple times.. lets watch that...

[Matches Malone]

Bobby was good last night. He's a decent passer and can generate gravity to get guys better shots, just need to drill into his head to pass the ball more. My only real gripes with Bobby are on the defensive end. Not asking him to be a defensive stopper, but he had a few plays where he got lost on defense leading to some easy layups. If he can get that cleaned up, things are looking up!

[Prez]

Credit where it’s due, Bobby showed uncharacteristic amount of unselfishness offensively last night and was good on that end. But he only had an “excellent” game if you just completely ignore defense, where he is still terrible and our biggest problem on that end when he’s on court.

I would like to erase as many defensive problems on our roster as we can, and if we can get a solid defensive backup big for Bobby, our roster would look pretty damn good on that end outside of Dame. All of sudden with Giannis, Brook, Green, Dre, Prince, GTJ, Wright, whichever big you get for Bobby, there’s the foundation of a good defense with very few weaknesses to pick on (Dame, possibly Khris if he loses a step on his return).

[-Jragon-]

It's pretty awesome how Giannis worked himself into being a dangerous post up player... he's been in his bag lately.. I saw hooks, face up drives, drop steps, crow shuffles to improve position, great passes, finger rolls, dunks, cuts to the basket off ball... pretty unreal.. I don't doubt that he'll figure out PnR by watching Dame and Brook.. just a matter of time for that dude

[-Jragon-]

Credit where it’s due, Bobby showed uncharacteristic amount of unselfishness offensively last night and was good on that end. But he only had an “excellent” game if you just completely ignore defense, where he is still terrible and our biggest problem on that end when he’s on court.

I would like to erase as many defensive problems on our roster as we can, and if we can get a solid defensive backup big for Bobby, our roster would look pretty damn good on that end outside of Dame. All of sudden with Giannis, Brook, Green, Dre, Prince, GTJ, Wright, whichever big you get for Bobby, there’s the foundation of a good defense with very few weaknesses to pick on (Dame, possibly Khris if he loses a step on his return).

He just has to stop thinking he's going to trail guys and jump at them. Where's Ersan? Hire him as a consultant and teach Bobby to just slide over and stop there... if at minimum he makes them Eurostep that gives Brook and Bobby time to help.. when he backs up and allows straight line drives and tries to block it he doesn't give time and also is in the way of the help defender even coming over. Try to get them to stop the dribble earlier and step around you... I can't jump so this is the only way I can stop people

[-Jragon-]

Good news!!! Ersan seems to still live in the Milwaukee area with his wife. Ok, Bobby... if anyone knows Bucks dudes please get this message to Bobby. Bobby, reach out to Ersan and bring him up to the practice facility and work on positional defense with him. If you improve in this area you will likely be able to retire as a Buck and be a very happy, rich man with multiple rings. If anyone knows Ersan, please send him this message. Ersan, reach out to Bobby and have some consultation workouts with him to work on positional defense. He's long like you with limited jumping ability and just needs to be in the right spot to get guys to pick up their dribble earlier and try to go around him (or draw charges). I'm checking social media... lol

[-Jragon-]

Lol, I just messaged Ersan on FB.. the 60k followers private page. Idk if he reads English, but I typed it plain enough for translator. If this happens it would be crazy.

[-Jragon-]

"Ersan. The Bucks need your help. Bobby Portis could likely retire as a Buck if you consult with him on position defense. Right now he lets the other team get too close to the hoop and too fast and tries to block them but doesn't jump very well. If he learned to get proper position instead, like you, stop their dribble and make them step around then I think he can help us win another ring. Any chance you know him or can meet him?"

He'll probably never read it but this is the dude Bobby needs right now. Hmmm I'm messaging Bobby next.. what's his SM

[emunney]

By the way, the idea that Giannis has no bag is the wrongest popular basketball take I've ever consciously experienced.

[pifhluk23]

Credit where it’s due, Bobby showed uncharacteristic amount of unselfishness offensively last night and was good on that end. But he only had an “excellent” game if you just completely ignore defense, where he is still terrible and our biggest problem on that end when he’s on court.

I would like to erase as many defensive problems on our roster as we can, and if we can get a solid defensive backup big for Bobby, our roster would look pretty damn good on that end outside of Dame. All of sudden with Giannis, Brook, Green, Dre, Prince, GTJ, Wright, whichever big you get for Bobby, there’s the foundation of a good defense with very few weaknesses to pick on (Dame, possibly Khris if he loses a step on his return).

Exactly and we don't need Bobby's offense assuming Middleton comes back.

[yb90]

Setting Greens lights out shooting aside. He needs to be getting minimum of 25 mpg at this point due to his ability to defend. He's our best perimeter outside defender outside AJJ and can guard 1 to 3.

Another highlight for Green was his 2mqn game with Giannis. If they can sprinkle that into the offense more look out. I'm sure teams will force him to finish more but the gravity of Giannis will get him some easy drives. He doesnt have the athletism of a Patty C but hopefully he can finish at the rim better than he did last night.

Also, I think Green has been awesome so far defensively for the most part but I am interested to see how he does as teams/players respect him and watch film on him. Green seems so technically sound that it may not matter.

[-Jragon-]

Ok Bobby's had a blue checkmark. That was easier, lol. Obviously they will ignore it but idk strange things happen with this forum.

"Bobby! I have an idea that can help you retire as a Buck and get more rings. Do you know Ersan Ilyasova? He supposedly still lives in Milwaukee with his wife. Well he was able to stay effective on D for many years without trying to block a lot of shots. Instead he used positioning to make the opponent pick up their dribble, earlier and step around him or draw charges. If they go around you it still slows them down giving time and space for GA or BL to help. Any chance you know him or can get the Bucks to reach out and bring him in?"

[yb90]

Setting Greens lights out shooting aside. He needs to be getting minimum of 25 mpg at this point due to his ability to defend. He's our best perimeter outside defender outside AJJ and can guard 1 to 3.

Another highlight for Green was his 2mqn game with Giannis. If they can sprinkle that into the offense more look out. I'm sure teams will force him to finish more but the gravity of Giannis will get him some easy drives. He doesnt have the athletism of a Patty C but hopefully he can finish at the rim better than he did last night.

Also, I think Green has been awesome so far defensively for the most part but I am interested to see how he does as teams/players respect him and watch film on him. Green seems so technically sound that it may not matter.

[PG Graveyard]

By the way, the idea that Giannis has no bag is the wrongest popular basketball take I've ever consciously experienced.

It’s embarrassing. I’m pretty sure he out scored the Bulls in the paint last night. He routinely beats 2-3 defenders to the paint and he’s an excellent passer with probably the best foot work for a big man maybe in the history of the game.

I will say the hook shot and mid range game looks like 2021 finals right now. Great news

[-Jragon-]

BTW.. Dame's shot isn't broken.. when it's straight but you miss it short, then straight but miss it long on the next one... that's legs/fitness. I think that means either he's pressing too hard on his off days, trying harder on defense and adjusting to "those" legs, or he's still working into game shape. It's probably the latter and by Dec he'll be blazing the net like usual.

[-Jragon-]

This might be argumentative, but where do you guys fall on Giannis going 1 v 5 with 2.5 min left and up 12? Should that be concerning that he's obviously worried about getting shots up there for his point average instead of taking off 20 seconds every possession. Or as long as we win; just ignore it and be happy?

[Neuromancer56]

Wow, we looked like a team. I saw some smart basketball. Even Bobby was passing out people open at the 3 point line. Maybe Doc is getting through to them.

[-Jragon-]

By the way, the idea that Giannis has no bag is the wrongest popular basketball take I've ever consciously experienced.

He must have taken that Harden (just run and dunk) comment very deeply because since then he's added a lot.

[old skool]

The Bulls are not much of a measuring stick. A lottery team with no interior defense.

The Bucks are 1-5 against teams with winning records.

Not many measuring stick games on the horizon. 16 of the Bucks next 18 games are against teams with a losing record.

[Ron Swanson]

Regular season wins are still wins. We had no shortage of "measuring stick" W's in the back half of last season (blew out OKC and Boston at home, handled Minnesota on the road without Khris), yet the constant criticism was that we kept playing down to our opponents and couldn't consistently handle the bottom-feeders. Most important thing right now is to just keep stacking wins against teams you should beat. That's what contenders do.