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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#182 » by sol537 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:45 pm

aggo wrote:mitch isn't coming back to just play sims minutes.

he will play 20 every night.


precious isn't coming back to be hukporti.

hes going to play 15mpg every night.


It's possible that Thibs just uses 3 guys off the bench in the playoffs... Deuce, Payne and one of Precious/Mitch... Actually, it seems probable.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#183 » by mpharris36 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:47 pm

thibs certainly isn't telling Brunson/KAT how to play offense.

Thibs job is to adj his defensive drop coverage and try to make us a league avg or slightly league avg defense.

We just moved to 2nd best offense in the league jumping past BOS. So we are a legit championship contender if we just get the defense to slightly better than league avg.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#184 » by DOT » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:50 pm

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SelbyCobra wrote:Happy that the talent is shining through, but haven't changed me feelings on Thibs one bit, either. Everything I was concerned about is still concerning to me.

It's kind of wild to be a Thibs team with a super efficient offense (2nd in offensive rating) but a terrible defense (21st in defensive rating)

The dead last pace kinda shows it though lol

Thibs is like Randle was gonna be this year to me. I kinda don't really care about what he shows in the regular season, it's all about playoffs.


I've been saying, it's ECF or bust.

Yeah, honestly, if we did all this upgrading and made all these moves just to only get as far or worse as we did last year with a depleted roster, that's not good.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#185 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:51 pm

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FrozenEnvelope wrote:People who want Thibs to use a 10 player rotation that includes rookies and no player playing more then 30 mpg will never be happy no matter what and will never give him any credit.

Guess making the playoffs 3 out of 4 years after only making it 4 out of the previous 20 years doesn't matter. Or adapting to the league and personnel either, right?

While having the worst bench in the league lead by Jericho Sims and Cam Payne with three G league bench players!


We lost several games because he refuses to trust his bench and we were gassed in the fourth quarter. See how this works?

I have been over the top critical of Thibs over the years but, he does a lot of dumb shyt that he has always done. Suddenly he plays guys when everyone is hurt that he refuses to play when they could be used to prevent things like this. It works both ways. The fact that he has more talent to mask his flaws doesn't excuse them. Putting starters in with a 24 point lead because it was a 30 point lead in the fourth quarter is a bit moronic.

He's a great coach. He's also a maniac. Both can be true. Both ARE true. We have depth. He needs to utilize it better than he does. He has always been this way. He goes all in for regular season wins far too often. His accolades are talent based. Not coaching based. Does he get more out of players? Absolutely. Does he expect too much out of his players? Absolutely. Has it hurt the team? Absolutely.

I am happy with him. I wanted him fired in the past but, whatever. We have a great starting 5 and we have depth beyond a 7 man rotation. Use it. That's what bothers people the most IMO.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#188 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:02 pm

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He doesn't like losing to the Knicks even when he's not playing, he looked ticked. It don't bother me none.


he a punk ass bitch in general, but i agree with this. i can respect being mad after getting dragged... at home.

how long before he blow this team up?
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Post#189 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:03 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Thibs has adapted to our personnel and has us as one of the best offensive teams and bringing out the best out of KAT and Hart offensively. Yet people want this man fired! Show yourselves!



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Happy that the talent is shining through, but haven't changed me feelings on Thibs one bit, either. Everything I was concerned about is still concerning to me.

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#191 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:05 pm

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Josh must have seen this and refuses to have a bad game now :lol:


Josh need to come to a game dressed like this! :rofl: I am dead! What is this from?
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#192 » by Reign23 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:05 pm

Just finished, man what a performance.
I just LOVE our starting five. you basically have a top 10 and a top 25 guy that can score from everywhere, surrounded by 3 extremely versatile wings.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#194 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:11 pm

Reign23 wrote:Just finished, man what a performance.
I just LOVE our starting five. you basically have a top 10 and a top 25 guy that can score from everywhere, surrounded by 3 extremely versatile wings.


Ummm....which one isn't top ten?
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#196 » by HEZI » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:14 pm

I’ve never seen a Thibs team underachieve. He usually gets the best out of his team and sometimes they even overachieve but I don’t remember his teams underachieving.

For a guy who was said to be holding us back because we didn’t come out the gate firing on all cylinders he sure has us speeding down the interstate right now. Props to Thibs man, he’s part of this culture he’s helped build this he deserves credit. We aren’t where we are now without him.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#197 » by stuporman » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:19 pm

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He doesn't like losing to the Knicks even when he's not playing, he looked ticked. It don't bother me none.


he a punk ass bitch in general, but i agree with this. i can respect being mad after getting dragged... at home.

how long before he blow this team up?


To start the season with everyone healthy the Suns started the season hot. Of course having a couple of older guys with injury histories it means their season can get blown up pretty quickly as we've seen from the recent slump from missing 2 of their big 3.

His mentality with the team if it is a struggle is another thing altogether. Although he can get the most money by resigning with the Suns and a spending stupid new owner to get it from so I suspect he'll play nice until that extension is signed, then who knows.
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#198 » by Fat Kat » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:28 pm

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He doesn't like losing to the Knicks even when he's not playing, he looked ticked. It don't bother me none.


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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#199 » by Gravy » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:31 pm

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FrozenEnvelope wrote:People who want Thibs to use a 10 player rotation that includes rookies and no player playing more then 30 mpg will never be happy no matter what and will never give him any credit.

Guess making the playoffs 3 out of 4 years after only making it 4 out of the previous 20 years doesn't matter. Or adapting to the league and personnel either, right?

While having the worst bench in the league lead by Jericho Sims and Cam Payne with three G league bench players!


We lost several games because he refuses to trust his bench and we were gassed in the fourth quarter. See how this works?

I have been over the top critical of Thibs over the years but, he does a lot of dumb shyt that he has always done. Suddenly he plays guys when everyone is hurt that he refuses to play when they could be used to prevent things like this. It works both ways. The fact that he has more talent to mask his flaws doesn't excuse them. Putting starters in with a 24 point lead because it was a 30 point lead in the fourth quarter is a bit moronic.

He's a great coach. He's also a maniac. Both can be true. Both ARE true. We have depth. He needs to utilize it better than he does. He has always been this way. He goes all in for regular season wins far too often. His accolades are talent based. Not coaching based. Does he get more out of players? Absolutely. Does he expect too much out of his players? Absolutely. Has it hurt the team? Absolutely.

I am happy with him. I wanted him fired in the past but, whatever. We have a great starting 5 and we have depth beyond a 7 man rotation. Use it. That's what bothers people the most IMO.

I disagree about having depth after 7 players, and Sims is just passable now so really 6.. The three rookies are not NBA ready yet aside from some good moments. This is like last year when fans wanted guys like Charlie Brown jr to get rotation minutes.

There is possibly more chance of injury with the starters playing more until Deuce and Precious get back, but any injury will be blamed on Thibs anyway so fuq it get the win :lol:
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Re: PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24 

Post#200 » by mpharris36 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 5:31 pm

HEZI wrote:I’ve never seen a Thibs team underachieve. He usually gets the best out of his team and sometimes they even overachieve but I don’t remember his teams underachieving.

For a guy who was said to be holding us back because we didn’t come out the gate firing on all cylinders he sure has us speeding down the interstate right now. Props to Thibs man, he’s part of this culture he’s helped build this he deserves credit. We aren’t where we are now without him.


I would agree with this simply because the attention to detail and the way he treats every game as a must win.

Now I have my concerns about regular season rotations (got to make it to the playoffs healthy) and his in game adjustments (especially in playoffs).

But I don't worry about the team underachieving. I think DOT mentioned it his ultimate success will be determined on where he gets this team in the playoffs.
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