PG: Knicks vs Suns- 11/21/24

[Capn'O]

On another note, I'm watching the replay of last night

Man Jamal Crawford is REALLY good. Spot on analysis, and he makes great analogies too. If I'm NBC I'm calling his agent TODAY.

I'm a sucker for good color analysis. Clyde, Monica, and now J Crossover....this fanbase is really well served on the TV side.

Likewise, I didn't get to watch last night but I'm excited to hear him call games. Any time I've heard him on the major networks he's been excellent.

It's funny because at least on the court I thought of him as a bit of a ditz for the first part of his career because he tended to freelance a lot. He's really proven me wrong. He's one of those guys who probably would have benefit from coming up in this era where his skills would be assimilated into a great system. Imagine him on the Warriors.

[blueNorange]

landry shamet getting hurt definitely threw a wrench, he would’ve definitely gotten minutes off the bench

[RHODEY]

Sims still a bum, but has been playing better the last few games. Appreciate his hustle and his defense has been decent.

Mitch and/or Precious will be a big step up there.

Huge. And adding Shamet and Mccullar will be huge as well.

[BKlutch]

He's on Twitter, but he got banned from here after he posted a pic of a gun and threatened to shoot Wingo

wtf did wingo do to piss that mf off so bad?

I wasn't involved in any way in pushing NYMentality over the edge with Wingo

That fellow wasn't pushed, he jumped.

[Knick4Real]

I like this tidbit here...

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I see posts like this and am reminded that some so-called "fans" actually spent 3 days arguing that KAT was trash and a bad move.

Hopefully, those "fans" are enjoying their dinner and the fact that maybe the front office really knows more than they do!

[aggo]

we saw this 2 or 3 times ln and it is the final unlock of the offense

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the transition three.


needs to happen 5x a game imo.

[Knick4Real]

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Bitch Ass Kd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Parraknick]

On another note, I'm watching the replay of last night

Man Jamal Crawford is REALLY good. Spot on analysis, and he makes great analogies too. If I'm NBC I'm calling his agent TODAY.

I'm a sucker for good color analysis. Clyde, Monica, and now J Crossover....this fanbase is really well served on the TV side.

Likewise, I didn't get to watch last night but I'm excited to hear him call games. Any time I've heard him on the major networks he's been excellent.

It's funny because at least on the court I thought of him as a bit of a ditz for the first part of his career because he tended to freelance a lot. He's really proven me wrong. He's one of those guys who probably would have benefit from coming up in this era where his skills would be assimilated into a great system. Imagine him on the Warriors.

There were more “genuine” insights from his commentary than any other play by play commentator I’ve heard. He’s gold

[Knick4Real]

Mario Hezonja, Dennis smith Jr, Kevin Knox, Young Mitch Rob, Alonzo Trier, Deandre Jordan off the bench… coached by David Fizdale
That was 2019
Fast forward 5 years
And we Have KAT, OG, Brunson, Mikal, Hart, and still have the best player remaining from that previous lot in Mitch Rob. Now coached by Thibs
Leon Rose came and built a winner from top down, just incredible what he did in only 5 years

He did all that in FOUR years. Had us in the playoffs in his FIRST year following a 21 win season. Three of those four years we made the playoffs. Second round twice. All with no drafted superstar and only one known superstar trade. Piece by piece. From the ground up. This front office has done what no other FO could do since Dolan took over. They made him disappear while building a contender in a few short years.

Who knew? NOBODY!

Also, fans have been obsessed over the years with a "we gotta win with homegrown talent" mentality. However, it took cultivating and then trading guys like RJ, IQ, Grimes, etc. to get to where we are today.

[BKlutch]

:lol:
Hooping like a toddler in a grown up body

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This supports my theory that defense in the NBA is actually just imaginary. You can dribble to the rim and score at will on every play if you really want and there’s nothing that can be done within the rules to stop that. The only reason players don’t do it is because they have not yet realized it’s imaginary like the matrix. Josh Hart might be the only player who has realized “there is no spoon”. Like what are they gonna do about it? Block you? Hahah good one

Josh Hart has exposed the “defense” scam with this one simple trick. The nba HATES him

In this game, the role of "Josh Hart" was played by Keanu Reeves.

[Besart19]

Imagine Melo on this team

[HEZI]

The Minny and Bulls teams might have won more if they weren't injured...we should have advanced past Indy last year if we weren't injured.

I know you don't want to shoulder any injury blame on thibs but it still seems to be a common theme with his teams. He does need to shoulder some of that blame.

This is scapegoating. No coach has been able to prevent injuries because they are simply part of the game

that just not fair.

if a coach played his starters all 48 minutes every game you still wouldn't say that?

Its not just black and white...there is a grey area here.

Is every injury thibs related....no
Is every injury related to minutes distribution....no

could extensive minutes and wear and tear potentially lead to more injuries....yes

you can't just say every injury is just happenstance. That is a bad faith argument.

I'm not putting all the blame on him...but its wildly considered in the NBA that Thibs is a lunatic...even on ESPN last night Bob Myers asked why are the Knicks starters still in...when the PHX starters were removed. If someone got injured in that stretch would that not be on thibs and just "part of the game"?

But you are going based on assumption. Your no doctor I’m no doctor so what plays what role in a certain players injury is not something we can answer. Every case is different so let’s stick to what we actually do know and not pretend like we are now some medical experts. So you are just scapegoating because a player gets injured and there is nobody else to blame but the coach

If Thibs caused Derrick Rose to tear his ACL because he played him 35 mpg then you should have beef with every coach in the league

Coaches playing guys under 30 minutes still can’t keep certain players healthy. Coaches playing guys that are fat and out of shape 37 mpg can still reach the finals. It’s just what it is

[BKlutch]

Mario Hezonja, Dennis smith Jr, Kevin Knox, Young Mitch Rob, Alonzo Trier, Deandre Jordan off the bench… coached by David Fizdale
That was 2019
Fast forward 5 years
And we Have KAT, OG, Brunson, Mikal, Hart, and still have the best player remaining from that previous lot in Mitch Rob. Now coached by Thibs
Leon Rose came and built a winner from top down, just incredible what he did in only 5 years

He did all that in FOUR years. Had us in the playoffs in his FIRST year following a 21 win season. Three of those four years we made the playoffs. Second round twice. All with no drafted superstar and only one known superstar trade. Piece by piece. From the ground up. This front office has done what no other FO could do since Dolan took over. They made him disappear while building a contender in a few short years.

Who knew? NOBODY!

Also, fans have been obsessed over the years with a "we gotta win with homegrown talent" mentality. However, it took cultivating and then trading guys like RJ, IQ, Grimes, etc. to get to where we are today.

Great point. Philly had "The Process" and couldn't win it all. Which teams have won in the past decade with mostly their own draft picks?

[HEZI]

What’s crazy is some coaches push their players harder in practice than in games and some practice sessions are hours long but nobody is there to see it or monitor minutes so all that practice wear and tear you don’t get to see. A coach could play a guy 32 mpg but be dogging him in practice and you will never know

[spree8]

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his bachata album fire

Josh like the mythical Keyser Soze with his hair down

I was thinkin…

[BKlutch]

his bachata album fire

Josh like the mythical Keyser Soze with his hair down

I was thinkin…

You wouldn't see his hair like this in a game - ever. Maybe it's the source of his strength - a latter day Samson!

[Parraknick]

This is scapegoating. No coach has been able to prevent injuries because they are simply part of the game

that just not fair.

if a coach played his starters all 48 minutes every game you still wouldn't say that?

Its not just black and white...there is a grey area here.

Is every injury thibs related....no
Is every injury related to minutes distribution....no

could extensive minutes and wear and tear potentially lead to more injuries....yes

you can't just say every injury is just happenstance. That is a bad faith argument.

I'm not putting all the blame on him...but its wildly considered in the NBA that Thibs is a lunatic...even on ESPN last night Bob Myers asked why are the Knicks starters still in...when the PHX starters were removed. If someone got injured in that stretch would that not be on thibs and just "part of the game"?

But you are going based on assumption. Your no doctor I’m no doctor so what plays what role in a certain players injury is not something we can answer. Every case is different so let’s stick to what we actually do know and not pretend like we are now some medical experts. So you are just scapegoating because a player gets injured and there is nobody else to blame but the coach

If Thibs caused Derrick Rose to tear his ACL because he played him 35 mpg then you should have beef with every coach in the league

Coaches playing guys under 30 minutes still can’t keep certain players healthy. Coaches playing guys that are fat and out of shape 37 mpg can still reach the finals. It’s just what it is

Hezi, this is my career. I’m a sports physical therapist. Mp makes valid points here.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Fuq this damn minutes conversation!! Ugh! Anyone who thinks 6.5 man rotations all year is a good idea isn't worth discussing this with. Period. There's a reason you have 15 players on the team.

[BKlutch]

Fuq this damn minutes conversation!! Ugh! Anyone who thinks 6.5 man rotations all year is a good idea isn't worth discussing this with. Period. There's a reason you have 15 players on the team.

Don't you know why we need 15 players? You need 8 of them to play when the starters go down with injuries.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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This is the KAT impact, there's no center in the lane to stop him. They're also running PnR when Hart has a center on him so that the center gets caught on KAT any way and has to make a decision on getting back to guard the rim or letting the Big Purr shoot a three. Josh is having a career year because this is the first time he's ever played with a stretch 5.