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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Friday 10PM EST Tonight) 

Post#21 » by Mavrelous » Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:20 pm

Kyrie lost the Mavs game 2, Luka game 3, it happens no need to throw players under the bus to fit some agenda.
Dirk was considered "soft Euro" and reveived criticism much bigger than Luka until he defeated Goliath on epic fashion in 2011, with the entire NBA fandom cheering for him, hopefully we'll witness the same with Luka.
I consider myself lucky to follow a team with these 2 players in long PO runs, it's the peak of sports following experience.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Friday 10PM EST Tonight) 

Post#22 » by daoneandonly » Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:26 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Kyrie lost the Mavs game 2, Luka game 3, it happens no need to throw players under the bus to fit some agenda.
Dirk was considered "soft Euro" and reveived criticism much bigger than Luka until he defeated Goliath on epic fashion in 2011, with the entire NBA fandom cheering for him, hopefully we'll witness the same with Luka.
I consider myself lucky to follow a team with these 2 players in long PO runs, it's the peak of sports following experience.


That's a good perspective; thanks for the reminder. Yeah, I do get frustrated with Luka, but it's because while he's already great, he could be so much better if he had more discipline and maturity. Its frustrating at times.
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Post#23 » by arkuo » Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:35 pm

Kyrie and Luka are Clyde Frazier and Earl Monroe for the Knicks back then. Its either they click or they dont. Just because they went to the Finals last year doesnt mean they'll walk straight in this year. A lot of teams got better too. But to get to get there, these two have to click the same way they did last year, and then some. On paper they have a better team this year. How to get from paper to court is proof of concept for Nico. So they need that first.
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Friday 10PM EST Tonight) 

Post#24 » by Bob8 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:44 pm

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arkuo wrote:Luka and Dirk are on different levels when it comes to dicipline and training. I do not think Luka will get to Dirk's level of dicipline (I would gladly like to be proven wrong in time) however I think this is affected by not having vets around him coming into the league. I say it every year, it's hard to build around a player like Luka. Dirk was a nobody entering the league. Luka was a top pick. So Dirk had to go through the longer route. Luka is from a younger generation and has youtube videos of his passes but no ring yet. Time will tell if he is able to get his ring. Kyrie and Klay are both up there in age. When the time comes that they are washed, Luka fans will complain about Mavs front office not giving him all star teammates again.


Yes, time always tells. Even the great ones, like MJ and LeBron needed a lot of time and the right teammates. MJ wasn't always Goat. Logic is kinda weird here. First full season with all star teammate and Finals. I would say that Luka and Kyrie together rather overachieved than underachieved. Rating this season after 15 games is kinda laughable. But we have seen the same story last year in RS and after bad start in playoffs, fat/lazy Luka, until he wasn't fat anymore. You have Luka fans here and you have fans, who apparently enjoy more when things for Luka don't look great. I wonder which are more normal?

But I agree wrist injuries are unacceptable for well conditioned athletes. It just can't happen.


Actually most of us our fans of the letters on the front of a jersey, not the back just because the athlete is from the same country.

We get it, he's your idol, you'll never criticize him. But he's mid twenties and always hurt, always complaining. Our previous Euro superstar didn't have these issues. He was a superstar professional


I guess you should cheer for Dirk, maybe he brings you another title. :D
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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Friday 10PM EST Tonight) 

Post#25 » by daoneandonly » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:51 pm

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Yes, time always tells. Even the great ones, like MJ and LeBron needed a lot of time and the right teammates. MJ wasn't always Goat. Logic is kinda weird here. First full season with all star teammate and Finals. I would say that Luka and Kyrie together rather overachieved than underachieved. Rating this season after 15 games is kinda laughable. But we have seen the same story last year in RS and after bad start in playoffs, fat/lazy Luka, until he wasn't fat anymore. You have Luka fans here and you have fans, who apparently enjoy more when things for Luka don't look great. I wonder which are more normal?

But I agree wrist injuries are unacceptable for well conditioned athletes. It just can't happen.


Actually most of us our fans of the letters on the front of a jersey, not the back just because the athlete is from the same country.

We get it, he's your idol, you'll never criticize him. But he's mid twenties and always hurt, always complaining. Our previous Euro superstar didn't have these issues. He was a superstar professional


I guess you should cheer for Dirk, maybe he brings you another title. :D


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Re: RS 24/25 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Friday 10PM EST Tonight) 

Post#26 » by gottamakeit » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:53 pm

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Bob8 wrote:
You might check how many players is injured/not playing at the start of the season. I doubt very much that wrist injury has something to do with conditioning, but I might be wrong.


It's always something with him; you can set your (wrist)watch to it. Unlike Dirk, who lived in the practice facility/gym, Luka just has other priorities, and it shows in his conditioning and availability.


I wonder which priorities have hurt his wrist? :roll:


Gaming can lead to wrist injuries, most commonly known as "gamer's wrist," which is a repetitive strain injury caused by prolonged and intense use of the hands and wrists during gameplay, often resulting in pain, inflammation, and discomfort in the wrist area due to overuse of tendons and muscles involved in gripping controllers or using a mouse and keyboard. symptoms can include soreness, swelling, numbness, and reduced range of motion in the wrist and hand.
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Post#27 » by daoneandonly » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:03 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
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daoneandonly wrote:
It's always something with him; you can set your (wrist)watch to it. Unlike Dirk, who lived in the practice facility/gym, Luka just has other priorities, and it shows in his conditioning and availability.


I wonder which priorities have hurt his wrist? :roll:


Gaming can lead to wrist injuries, most commonly known as "gamer's wrist," which is a repetitive strain injury caused by prolonged and intense use of the hands and wrists during gameplay, often resulting in pain, inflammation, and discomfort in the wrist area due to overuse of tendons and muscles involved in gripping controllers or using a mouse and keyboard. symptoms can include soreness, swelling, numbness, and reduced range of motion in the wrist and hand.


Also not hard to imagine if one falls on their wrist, having more weight will increase the likelihood of injury
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Post#28 » by Archx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:08 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
It's always something with him; you can set your (wrist)watch to it. Unlike Dirk, who lived in the practice facility/gym, Luka just has other priorities, and it shows in his conditioning and availability.


I wonder which priorities have hurt his wrist? :roll:


Gaming can lead to wrist injuries, most commonly known as "gamer's wrist," which is a repetitive strain injury caused by prolonged and intense use of the hands and wrists during gameplay, often resulting in pain, inflammation, and discomfort in the wrist area due to overuse of tendons and muscles involved in gripping controllers or using a mouse and keyboard. symptoms can include soreness, swelling, numbness, and reduced range of motion in the wrist and hand.


I'm going to be honest, i didn't see any Playstation 5 being played when the injury occurred in the 1st half. :o
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Post#29 » by Bob8 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:13 pm

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Bob8 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Actually most of us our fans of the letters on the front of a jersey, not the back just because the athlete is from the same country.

We get it, he's your idol, you'll never criticize him. But he's mid twenties and always hurt, always complaining. Our previous Euro superstar didn't have these issues. He was a superstar professional


I guess you should cheer for Dirk, maybe he brings you another title. :D


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I know you won't for Luka. The only problem here is that basically means you're not cheering for Mavs either because unfortunately they can't win a title without him.
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Post#30 » by Bob8 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:16 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
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daoneandonly wrote:
It's always something with him; you can set your (wrist)watch to it. Unlike Dirk, who lived in the practice facility/gym, Luka just has other priorities, and it shows in his conditioning and availability.


I wonder which priorities have hurt his wrist? :roll:


Gaming can lead to wrist injuries, most commonly known as "gamer's wrist," which is a repetitive strain injury caused by prolonged and intense use of the hands and wrists during gameplay, often resulting in pain, inflammation, and discomfort in the wrist area due to overuse of tendons and muscles involved in gripping controllers or using a mouse and keyboard. symptoms can include soreness, swelling, numbness, and reduced range of motion in the wrist and hand.


Because Luka's chronic wrist pain is well known? :lol:
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Post#31 » by gottamakeit » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:19 pm

Archx wrote:
gottamakeit wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I wonder which priorities have hurt his wrist? :roll:


Gaming can lead to wrist injuries, most commonly known as "gamer's wrist," which is a repetitive strain injury caused by prolonged and intense use of the hands and wrists during gameplay, often resulting in pain, inflammation, and discomfort in the wrist area due to overuse of tendons and muscles involved in gripping controllers or using a mouse and keyboard. symptoms can include soreness, swelling, numbness, and reduced range of motion in the wrist and hand.


I'm going to be honest, i didn't see any Playstation 5 being played when the injury occurred in the 1st half. :o


If you add acute trauma (during gametime) to a chronic condition (gamer's wrist) you have a good recipe for injury
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Post#32 » by GermanFan120 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:23 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
You might check how many players is injured/not playing at the start of the season. I doubt very much that wrist injury has something to do with conditioning, but I might be wrong.


It's always something with him; you can set your (wrist)watch to it. Unlike Dirk, who lived in the practice facility/gym, Luka just has other priorities, and it shows in his conditioning and availability.


Agree.

Too much pornography and too little gym for Luka... So the wrists hurt.



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Post#33 » by Bob8 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:24 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
Archx wrote:
gottamakeit wrote:
Gaming can lead to wrist injuries, most commonly known as "gamer's wrist," which is a repetitive strain injury caused by prolonged and intense use of the hands and wrists during gameplay, often resulting in pain, inflammation, and discomfort in the wrist area due to overuse of tendons and muscles involved in gripping controllers or using a mouse and keyboard. symptoms can include soreness, swelling, numbness, and reduced range of motion in the wrist and hand.


I'm going to be honest, i didn't see any Playstation 5 being played when the injury occurred in the 1st half. :o


If you add acute trauma (during gametime) to a chronic condition (gamer's wrist) you have a good recipe for injury


I hope you're joking. :lol: You understand that we have around 120 players on injury report at the moment and my wild guess is that vast majority of them is extremely well prepared and living sport life, but strangely enough injuries still happens.
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Post#34 » by Bob8 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:27 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
gottamakeit wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I wonder which priorities have hurt his wrist? :roll:


Gaming can lead to wrist injuries, most commonly known as "gamer's wrist," which is a repetitive strain injury caused by prolonged and intense use of the hands and wrists during gameplay, often resulting in pain, inflammation, and discomfort in the wrist area due to overuse of tendons and muscles involved in gripping controllers or using a mouse and keyboard. symptoms can include soreness, swelling, numbness, and reduced range of motion in the wrist and hand.


Also not hard to imagine if one falls on their wrist, having more weight will increase the likelihood of injury


You're saying that Cs and Pfs are much more endangered species for wrist injuries than guards? I hope they're not playing video games, that combination might lead to career ending injury.
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Post#35 » by Mavrelous » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:54 pm

Jokic questionable
Read on Twitter


Browsing her feed, looks like Vlatko Cancar suffered another injury, poor guy...
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Post#36 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:06 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Jokic questionable
Read on Twitter


Browsing her feed, looks like Vlatko Cancar suffered another injury, poor guy...


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Post#37 » by Bob8 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:54 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Jokic questionable
Read on Twitter


Browsing her feed, looks like Vlatko Cancar suffered another injury, poor guy...


He did. Cancar is the best example that great conditioning doesn't guarantee you anything.
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Post#38 » by Mavrelous » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:58 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Jokic questionable
Read on Twitter


Browsing her feed, looks like Vlatko Cancar suffered another injury, poor guy...


He did. Cancar is the best example that great conditioning doesn't guarantee you anything.


Slovenian NT players looked washed compared to what they were in Tokyo, is there a younger generation to fill in?
I don't think any of the players that played next to Luka against Croatia and Greece should start.
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Post#39 » by Bob8 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:44 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Jokic questionable
Read on Twitter


Browsing her feed, looks like Vlatko Cancar suffered another injury, poor guy...


He did. Cancar is the best example that great conditioning doesn't guarantee you anything.


Slovenian NT players looked washed compared to what they were in Tokyo, is there a younger generation to fill in?
I don't think any of the players that played next to Luka against Croatia and Greece should start.


Unfortunately no. It's mathematical problem, 2 mio nation can't produce enough talent, especially tall one and when basketball is not exactly top sport.
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Post#40 » by Archx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 11:06 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
He did. Cancar is the best example that great conditioning doesn't guarantee you anything.


Slovenian NT players looked washed compared to what they were in Tokyo, is there a younger generation to fill in?
I don't think any of the players that played next to Luka against Croatia and Greece should start.


Unfortunately no. It's mathematical problem, 2 mio nation can't produce enough talent, especially tall one and when basketball is not exactly top sport.


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