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Post#301 » by El Turco » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:14 pm

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El Turco wrote:Pretty sure almost all the main members of 90s Bills are in the HoF, buncha losers.

At the very least they more highly regarded than Buccaneers of the same era.

Tell me if I am wrong, but it is my understanding the Bills are the only franchise to go to 4 straight Super Bowls. That type of history always sticks out in my mind.


Yeah they are probably considered better than quite a number of super bowl champions. Kinda like how 18-1 Patriots almost unanimously considered a top 5 nfl team, if only Brady-Moss duo werent such pussies.
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Post#302 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:15 pm

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Mariner wrote:That makes no sense. lol
I’ve admitted the cowboys suck for neatly 3 decades.
It’s horrible. How is that coping?
I think you throw around that term without really understanding it.


Have you ever wondered why except for Cowboys fans nobody agrees with this "all 31 teams are equally bad" braindead argument?

Such a false premise.
We have maybe 4 posters talking about this.
I know for a fact that non cowboy fans think like this too. Not everybody celebrates their losses.

Let me introduce you to Patriot nation where I live and come from. :ouch:
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Post#303 » by Mr B » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:16 pm

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Mariner wrote:Didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.
Guess they do t do it anymore cause nobody cares.
I guess the people who run the nfl are cowboy fans

Most people don't care about 3rd place, true.

However, most fans get intrigued by a deep playoff run.

Maybe you don't remember the feeling because it has been so long.

Sure. Enjoy the feeling. But years later don’t celebrate it. That’s just silly.

Exactly there can be fun moments even during a failed season but that doesn’t mean you celebrate losing in the playoffs.
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Post#304 » by El Turco » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:18 pm

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Mariner wrote:That makes no sense. lol
I’ve admitted the cowboys suck for neatly 3 decades.
It’s horrible. How is that coping?
I think you throw around that term without really understanding it.


Have you ever wondered why except for Cowboys fans nobody agrees with this "all 31 teams are equally bad" braindead argument?

Ah. excuse me. :wavefinger: :wink:


Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P
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Post#305 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:30 pm

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El Turco wrote:Pretty sure almost all the main members of 90s Bills are in the HoF, buncha losers.

At the very least they more highly regarded than Buccaneers of the same era.

You should ask them if they would rather have played and lost 4 straight SB’s or win just 1 SB.


That is irrelevant to the discussion, I need to ask them whether they would prefer losing in the wild card instead of going to those super bowls.

Argument is not whether super bowl win is better than super bowl loss, argument is whether super bowl loss is same as wild card loss. Everyone knows million dollars is better than 100k, but according to Cowboys fans you are a pussy if you take 100k over 100 dollars.

I don't agree with my fellow Cowboy posters here. Of course you felt bad when we lost a Super Bowl. But back then, just there getting and being in the Super Bowl, while everyone was talking about you for two weeks was a treasure that can't be replaced. All the hoopla and always being in the limelight was priceless. It's what made us Americas Team and the most popular sports team in the world which has been taken for granted and trashed by Jerry and the young generation Cowboy fans for almost 3 decades now.

PS. What is even the point of having playoff teams and playoffs if everyone sucks besides the Super Bowl winner.
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Post#306 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:33 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
El Turco wrote:
Have you ever wondered why except for Cowboys fans nobody agrees with this "all 31 teams are equally bad" braindead argument?

Ah. excuse me. :wavefinger: :wink:


Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P

After 10 years, this is what you think. No xmas card or gift for you this year. :wink:
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Post#307 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Nov 22, 2024 4:41 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
El Turco wrote:
Have you ever wondered why except for Cowboys fans nobody agrees with this "all 31 teams are equally bad" braindead argument?

Ah. excuse me. :wavefinger: :wink:


Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P

yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32
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Post#308 » by Mariner » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:01 pm

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El Turco wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Ah. excuse me. :wavefinger: :wink:


Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P

yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32

I’m sure the journey of going 12 and 5 made him so happy. lol
And beating the goat in the playoffs!!! Made him so happy. The inconsistencies and contradictions are mind boggling.
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Post#309 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:06 pm

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El Turco wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Ah. excuse me. :wavefinger: :wink:


Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P

yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32

:rofl: Been telling you for going on 4 years now that Dak (Your Boy) is not the guy. There was never any chance of any of these 12 win teams were going to the super bowl with Dak. Told you from the beginning, so stop. And Jerry has been the one telling Cowboy nation the past 2 years that McCarthy at minimum, needs to get us to at least the NFC Championship game. Instead he gets rewarded and brought back after getting totally waxed and you are wondering why I am all out this year. Please. I know all teams have a bad year at times and some injuries issues, but after 30 years and nothing. That sample size can't be ignored any longer.
I know you watch all the games like I do. For the life of me, I still can't understand why you can't see what has been in front of your face for over 2 decades now.
Ps. Myself and the rest of us are still waiting for your thoughts, feelings and vision for the Cowboys moving forward. Disappointing Mariner and Mr. B. as well can't come up with a plan and vision either. I guess bashing it out with Niner and Jaguar fans is a way not to answer anything being asked in the thread.
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Post#310 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:11 pm

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El Turco wrote:
Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P

yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32

:rofl: Been telling you for going on 4 years now that Dak (Your Boy) is not the guy. There was never any chance of any of these 12 win teams were going to the super bowl with Dak. Told you from the beginning, so stop. And Jerry has been the one telling Cowboy nation the past 2 years that McCarthy at minimum, needs to get us to at least the NFC Championship game. Instead he gets rewarded and brought back after getting totally waxed and you are wondering why I am all out this year. Please. I know all teams have a bad year at times and some injuries issues, but after 30 years and nothing. That sample size can't be ignored any longer.
I know you watch all the games like I do. For the life of me, I still can't understand why you can't see what has been in front of your face for over 2 decades now.
Ps. Myself and the rest of us are still waiting for your thoughts, feelings and vision for the Cowboys moving forward.


Exactly, that is my point with you.

They "aren't the guys" no matter what they do short of a ring.

You didn't even celebrate at all when they obliterated Brady in the playoffs.

The idea that you'd be happy with just an "NFC Championship appearance" is laughable. :roll:

In fact of all the Cowboy posters in here, I think you would complain the most and celebrate the least.
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Post#311 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:19 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32

:rofl: Been telling you for going on 4 years now that Dak (Your Boy) is not the guy. There was never any chance of any of these 12 win teams were going to the super bowl with Dak. Told you from the beginning, so stop. And Jerry has been the one telling Cowboy nation the past 2 years that McCarthy at minimum, needs to get us to at least the NFC Championship game. Instead he gets rewarded and brought back after getting totally waxed and you are wondering why I am all out this year. Please. I know all teams have a bad year at times and some injuries issues, but after 30 years and nothing. That sample size can't be ignored any longer.
I know you watch all the games like I do. For the life of me, I still can't understand why you can't see what has been in front of your face for over 2 decades now.
Ps. Myself and the rest of us are still waiting for your thoughts, feelings and vision for the Cowboys moving forward.


Exactly, that is my point with you.

They "aren't the guys" no matter what they do short of a ring.

You didn't even celebrate at all when they obliterated Brady in the playoffs.

The idea that you'd be happy with just an "NFC Championship appearance" is laughable. :roll:

In fact of all the Cowboy posters in here, I think you would complain the most and celebrate the least.

They beat up on an old aging QB on his last leg with an injury riddled team from the weakest division in football. Every Tom, Dick and Harry new we were not going to beat the 49ers at their place the following week. They had already beaten us earlier in the season and we were not capable of beating really good teams. Record spoke for itself. By the way, what should I be celebrating?
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Post#312 » by Mariner » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:21 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
El Turco wrote:
Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P

yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32

:rofl: Been telling you for going on 4 years now that Dak (Your Boy) is not the guy. There was never any chance of any of these 12 win teams were going to the super bowl with Dak. Told you from the beginning, so stop. And Jerry has been the one telling Cowboy nation the past 2 years that McCarthy at minimum, needs to get us to at least the NFC Championship game. Instead he gets rewarded and brought back after getting totally waxed and you are wondering why I am all out this year. Please. I know all teams have a bad year at times and some injuries issues, but after 30 years and nothing. That sample size can't be ignored any longer.
I know you watch all the games like I do. For the life of me, I still can't understand why you can't see what has been in front of your face for over 2 decades now.
Ps. Myself and the rest of us are still waiting for your thoughts, feelings and vision for the Cowboys moving forward. Disappointing Mariner and Mr. B. as well can't come up with a plan and vision either. I guess bashing it out with Niner and Jaguar fans is a way not to answer anything being asked in the thread.

I gave you and Turco my thoughts.
You simply ignored it.
Plus there is nothing you will like anyway. Cause it involves Jerry being the owner.
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Post#313 » by Mr B » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:22 pm

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Mr B wrote:You should ask them if they would rather have played and lost 4 straight SB’s or win just 1 SB.


That is irrelevant to the discussion, I need to ask them whether they would prefer losing in the wild card instead of going to those super bowls.

Argument is not whether super bowl win is better than super bowl loss, argument is whether super bowl loss is same as wild card loss. Everyone knows million dollars is better than 100k, but according to Cowboys fans you are a pussy if you take 100k over 100 dollars.

I don't agree with my fellow Cowboy posters here. Of course you felt bad when we lost a Super Bowl. But back then, just there getting and being in the Super Bowl, while everyone was talking about you for two weeks was a treasure that can't be replaced. All the hoopla and always being in the limelight was priceless. It's what made us Americas Team and the most popular sports team in the world which has been taken for granted and trashed by Jerry and the young generation Cowboy fans for almost 3 decades now.

PS. What is even the point of having playoff teams and playoffs if everyone sucks besides the Super Bowl winner.

How else would you figure out the winner?
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Post#314 » by Mr B » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:23 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
El Turco wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Ah. excuse me. :wavefinger: :wink:


Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P

yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32

He’d also be happy with Jerry if he felt that way.
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Post#315 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:23 pm

Mariner wrote:Most cowboy posters know the truth. lol
We just don’t harp on it every day.
Every cowboy fan would be happy if Jerry sold the team.

O.K. great. We agree on this. But if Jerry doesn't sell, how should we move forward then?
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Post#316 » by Mr B » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:24 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
El Turco wrote:
Mea culpa, never thought you'd be the voice of reason here :P :P

yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32

:rofl: Been telling you for going on 4 years now that Dak (Your Boy) is not the guy. There was never any chance of any of these 12 win teams were going to the super bowl with Dak. Told you from the beginning, so stop. And Jerry has been the one telling Cowboy nation the past 2 years that McCarthy at minimum, needs to get us to at least the NFC Championship game. Instead he gets rewarded and brought back after getting totally waxed and you are wondering why I am all out this year. Please. I know all teams have a bad year at times and some injuries issues, but after 30 years and nothing. That sample size can't be ignored any longer.
I know you watch all the games like I do. For the life of me, I still can't understand why you can't see what has been in front of your face for over 2 decades now.
Ps. Myself and the rest of us are still waiting for your thoughts, feelings and vision for the Cowboys moving forward. Disappointing Mariner and Mr. B. as well can't come up with a plan and vision either. I guess bashing it out with Niner and Jaguar fans is a way not to answer anything being asked in the thread.

I have answered. The only who hasn’t answered the question is you.
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Post#317 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:35 pm

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Mariner wrote:You still bringing them up?
Thought we agreed not too.


Why not? Why bring Niners and not various other teams? I dont understand focusing on Niners particularly in a Cowboys thread.

Let’s talk panthers!

Mariner's plan and vision for the Cowboys moving on. :falloff:
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Post#318 » by Mariner » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:35 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mariner wrote:Most cowboy posters know the truth. lol
We just don’t harp on it every day.
Every cowboy fan would be happy if Jerry sold the team.

O.K. great. We agree on this. But if Jerry doesn't sell, how should we move forward then?

We need new coaching. Across the board.
Try to change the culture a bit. Maybe Ben Johnson?
We need to have Dak throwing less. We need a running game. Maybe draft a RB in the second round.
Free agency has to be more of a factor. Sign a veteran DTackle. Someone proven to help stop the run. Splurge on that one position at least. Ideally draft a Left tackle in the first and move Guyton to RT. Steele should be a post June 1 cut as he sucks.
I would move on from Dak but that’s not realistic capwise.
If you disagree with this that’s cool. But give constructive criticism. And give your ideas.
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Post#319 » by Mariner » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:36 pm

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Mariner wrote:
El Turco wrote:
Why not? Why bring Niners and not various other teams? I dont understand focusing on Niners particularly in a Cowboys thread.

Let’s talk panthers!

Mariner's plan and vision for the Cowboys moving on. :falloff:

Have answered this many times. Sigh.
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Post#320 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:43 pm

Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:yeah right :lol:

BJJ doesn't actually think that at all or he would have been happy going 12-5 for 3 straight seasons which is well above average.

For BJJ the reality is rings only. I absolutely guarantee 100% had Dak and McCarthy lost in the Super Bowl we'd never hear the end of it from him.

He literally believes they rank 32

:rofl: Been telling you for going on 4 years now that Dak (Your Boy) is not the guy. There was never any chance of any of these 12 win teams were going to the super bowl with Dak. Told you from the beginning, so stop. And Jerry has been the one telling Cowboy nation the past 2 years that McCarthy at minimum, needs to get us to at least the NFC Championship game. Instead he gets rewarded and brought back after getting totally waxed and you are wondering why I am all out this year. Please. I know all teams have a bad year at times and some injuries issues, but after 30 years and nothing. That sample size can't be ignored any longer.
I know you watch all the games like I do. For the life of me, I still can't understand why you can't see what has been in front of your face for over 2 decades now.
Ps. Myself and the rest of us are still waiting for your thoughts, feelings and vision for the Cowboys moving forward. Disappointing Mariner and Mr. B. as well can't come up with a plan and vision either. I guess bashing it out with Niner and Jaguar fans is a way not to answer anything being asked in the thread.

I have answered. The only who hasn’t answered the question is you.

I was waiting for the thread to play out till the end before giving my 2 cents. Jerry and his family need to go and sell the team. As long as Jerry is owner, and especially GM, nothing will change and this will continue. On top of that Jerry just sent the franchise back 5 years by giving Dumb Dak and his girly azz the contract extension. Should have let Dak play out his contract, tank, let Dak walk, trade away Parsons and lamb for a boat load of picks and do an actual rebuild.

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