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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread – (EC - PotW - Wk 1) 

Post#281 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Nov 19, 2024 3:01 pm

Scary thing is, JT can still be more efficient than this. More offball movement, more C&S threes please.

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Post#282 » by jmr07019 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:46 pm

JT is really good at basketball

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Post#283 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:00 am

Tatum averaging 29.9 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 5.9 apg on 62.7% TS%. It feels like he's only gonna get better this season esp once we have more space with KP playing.

Only one player (Giannis last season) in NBA history has averaged 30 ppg, 8 rpg, 6 apg on 62% TS%.
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Post#284 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:03 am

That's why it's a bad idea to doubt JT.
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Post#285 » by Deivork » Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:40 pm

After 3 seasons over 85% from the free throw line (2021-23) he went down to 83% last season and 81% this season so far.

No biggie, but something I've noticed. It's all flowers now, but I don't want him shooting a tech with PP on the floor as it is.

Something to improve on in an otherwise amazing performance up to this point this season.
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Post#286 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:39 pm

In last 8 games, 44.2% from 3 on almost 11 attempts per game. While making 84.1% of his free throws (almost 8 FTAs per game). Over 7 assists per game. Juicy.
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Post#287 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:41 pm

Deivork wrote:After 3 seasons over 85% from the free throw line (2021-23) he went down to 83% last season and 81% this season so far.

No biggie, but something I've noticed. It's all flowers now, but I don't want him shooting a tech with PP on the floor as it is.

Something to improve on in an otherwise amazing performance to this point of the season.

Slow start. It's up to 84% last 8 games. Taking more attempts than previous seasons too.

Agreed on the FT thing. Let PP take the tech FT if he's on the floor.
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Post#288 » by 31to6 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 2:26 pm

so I try not to care much about individual awards, but obviously if Tatum keeps playing this well or better and the Celtics work their way to the top of the standings, he has to feature prominently in the MVP conversation.

If Jokic keeps averaging like 30/14/12 or whatever (leading the league in both rebounding and assists??) that's preposterous and might be tough to top -- but voter fatigue plus some missed games plus DEN being mid-level in the West could all take votes from him.

Then there's Shai and that might be even tougher because the media seems to love him, and they'll have to feel like the 'owe' JT enough to want to make it up to him. The standings might go a long way in determining that, and it could go down to the wire so to speak.

Steph keeps GS up there and he's a candidate.
Same for Donovan Mitchell and the Cavs.
Giannis leads the Bucks back and he's in there.
KD could theoretically do the same with the Suns but much as I would kind of like to see it, I wouldn't bet on it.
Luka sucks and I would never have traded Tatum for him straight up at any point in their careers I have receipts on this.
I don't want to mention LAL but I think AD and LeBron split the ballot too much.
Won't mention anyone in PHI, NYK, MIN, of HOU. De'aaron Fox is cool but he has the SAC tax working against him.

Go get it, JT! The way to do it: defense, rebounding, pump up those assists #s, and take GOOD shots -- plus (most importantly) win a **** of games!
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Post#289 » by playa-hater » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:26 pm

I want the MVP for sure for Tatum but would be very happy with a very close 2nd. Efficiency is where he needs to keep at a good/very good level.

But an MVP puts him on a whole other all-time Tier.
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Post#290 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:05 am

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Post#291 » by Fierce1 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 3:27 am

It's just a matter of time when the majority of Celtic fans will agree with me about JT being on Larry Bird's level.
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Post#292 » by brackdan70 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 1:38 pm

Fierce1 wrote:It's just a matter of time when the majority of Celtic fans will agree with me about JT being on Larry Bird's level.

Another ring or two, a few more first team all NBAs and a couple MVPs is all it take.
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Post#293 » by Fierce1 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:04 pm

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Fierce1 wrote:It's just a matter of time when the majority of Celtic fans will agree with me about JT being on Larry Bird's level.

Another ring or two, a few more first team all NBAs and a couple MVPs is all it take.

Ring or two will not be a problem.

Same with a few more 1st team All-NBA.

A couple MVPs will be the hardest to get.

If the Cs repeat in June then JT would have done something that Bird and Pierce couldn't do.
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Post#294 » by Captain Holt » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:04 pm

He’s actually gotten better in the RA and on ATB threes, as the season has gone on. I’m glad he has cut the mid range mostly out of his game lol.

Feels like the 62-63% TS could be for real

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Post#295 » by Gant » Fri Nov 22, 2024 2:44 pm

Jayson Tatum Is Part Of A Potential $200 Million Bid For A New St. Louis WNBA Franchise

Tatum, who grew up in St. Louis and was a McDonald's All-American in high school, is teaming up with St. Louis businessmen David Hoffman and Richard Chaifetz as part of the deal. Hoffman owns the Florida Everblades, a minor league hockey affiliate of the St. Louis Blues. Chaifetz has invested in the Alpine F1 team, the Drone Racing League, and Major League Pickleball. He's also made bids for NFL, NBA, and MLB franchises.

Sportico's Jason Feldman reported the group is presenting to other investors and highlighting St. Louis's illustrious sports history. The NBA's St. Louis Hawks won the championship in 1958, and the city currently supports teams in the MLB, NHL, MLS, and UFL. One of the potential home court options is Chaifetz Arena, named for Chaifetz after he donated $12 million to St. Louis University.

Last year, the NBA and its players agreed to a new collective bargaining agreement. Among the CBA items are the ability for players to sign extensions worth up to 140% of their previous contract (allowing Tatum to ink that record deal) and players being able to hold up to a 4% stake in WNBA franchises.

That means Tatum could invest up to $8 million should the $200 million bid come to fruition. NBA stars LeBron James and Stephen Curry have also expressed interest in owning part of a WNBA team, though no player has actually made an offer.

The high price tag is a result of the WNBA's growing popularity, thanks to young stars like Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese. Toronto, the most recent WNBA franchise, paid $50 million for its expansion fee. The number of suitors is also driving up the price—Denver, Miami, Milwaukee, Portland, and Kansas City are all reportedly vying for a franchise.


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Post#296 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 6:58 pm

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Deivork wrote:After 3 seasons over 85% from the free throw line (2021-23) he went down to 83% last season and 81% this season so far.

No biggie, but something I've noticed. It's all flowers now, but I don't want him shooting a tech with PP on the floor as it is.

Something to improve on in an otherwise amazing performance to this point of the season.

Slow start. It's up to 84% last 8 games. Taking more attempts than previous seasons too.

Agreed on the FT thing. Let PP take the tech FT if he's on the floor.

Your anti-Horford bias is showing again. Why wouldn't he take the technical free throws when he is shooting 100% on the year ?

More seriously though, Pritchard shooting the technical free throw is worth maybe an extra 0.1 expected point compared to Tatum. I would assume that a psycho like Mazzulla has ran the numbers as to whether that's more important than getting your best player in a slightly better rythm. I would guess not.
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Post#297 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:06 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:In last 8 games, 44.2% from 3 on almost 11 attempts per game. While making 84.1% of his free throws (almost 8 FTAs per game). Over 7 assists per game. Juicy.

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Post#298 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:57 am

Jayson Tatum is checking every MVP box so far. Since 2011, every MVP has gone to a player between the ages of 24 and 28 that made either First or Second Team All-NBA. That's Tatum. Every MVP since 2008 has averaged at least 25 points per game except for Stephen Curry in 2015, who only didn't because he got pulled out of so many blowouts early. Tatum is a hair below 30 right now. Looking for versatility? Tatum leads his team in assists and rebounds. Winning? The Celtics are on a 66-win pace. Narrative? Easy, he was just the best player on a championship team and has nothing left to prove. By basically every traditional measure, Tatum looks like an MVP. In a normal year, he'd have a real chance to win it.

But as it stands right now, through no fault of his own, he's headed for a very impressive second-place finish. Nikola Jokic is lapping the field.

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Anthony Davis comfortably holds the No. 3 slot right now, and his resume, like Tatum's, would merit serious MVP consideration in any other season.

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Tatum gets the nod due to his greater responsibility as a shot creator,

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-one-month-awards-nikola-jokic-way-ahead-of-jayson-tatum-anthony-davis-in-mvp-race-wemby-for-dpoy/
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Post#299 » by ConstableGeneva » Mon Nov 25, 2024 10:33 am

2021-22:
Tatum ON court: 117.2 ORtg, +12.1 Net
Tatum OFF court: 107.0 ORtg, -4.4 Net

2024-25:
Tatum ON court: 124.6 ORtg, +13.6 Net
Tatum OFF court: 122.3 ORtg, +4.0 Net

Offense no longer crashes when he's off the floor. Brad's done a good job adding talent that fits on the team. Kudos to Joe too for navigating the non-JT minutes well (and JB too for the playmaking bump). As of this posting, there are only two teams that are in top 10 of net rating in every quarter -- Cavs and Celtics. Our stronger quarters are 1st (+15.1) and 3rd (+11.5) when JT usually plays entire Q.
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Post#300 » by bisme37 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:55 pm

JT out-bigging bigs

Top 10 highest FG% in the restricted area this season (min. 65 attempts):
T-1: Jayson Tatum - 76.5%
T-1: Daniel Gafford - 76.5%
3. Jarrett Allen - 75.9%
4. Domantas Sabonis - 75.3%
5. Pascal Siakam - 74.9%
6. Jalen Duren - 74.3%
7. Anthony Davis - 73.7%
8. Nikola Vucevic - 73.0%
9. Rudy Gobert - 72.6%
10. Giannis Antetokounmpo - 72.5%

https://old.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/1gzht0h/jayson_tatum_is_the_only_nonbig_in_the_top_10/

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