Is Scoot a bust?

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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#41 » by Kent » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:17 am

FreeBird23 wrote:He plays for the Blazers. This should be taken into account


By that do you mean that he doesn't have any help or...?

If so, agreed.

They seem to draft decent to well.

But before the last years with Dame up to now when they've been at the bottom of the standings, they've been a consistent playoff team.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#42 » by SFour » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:19 am

It's too early to completely give up on him, but he does give off bust vibes in terms of being an allstar level player.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#43 » by GoBobs » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:24 am

I define it as sombody that has a PER of 3 or 5 or 8 or something like that, they are a bust. If somebody has a PER of 15-20 at 19 or 20 years old, chances are they are going to be a pretty good player in the league.

Cade Cunningham had a 13 PER as a rookie. He is up to 18 this year. He can't be a bust because he just got a max extension, but I view him as one of the lower tier guys if we were to rank all the stars in the league.

The expectation for Scoot is star. He is nowhere close to Cade Cunningham.

Scoot has a PER of 9.5 last year, 10.1 this year. He has plenty of time to play better. No reason to think he will.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#44 » by Capn'O » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:02 am

zero rings wrote:Yes. My theory is that 90% of his pre-draft hype was due to his name.


Ha. I've been saying for about a year now that if his name were Scott Henderson he would have been picked in the 2nd round.

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Yes.


Wow.

I thought his deal was he was supposed to be incredibly athletic. I've seen him live and he ain't and he doesn't have the guile to make up for that. Westbrook without the athleticism is not good.

As others have said, a monumental scouting error. His athleticism was supposed to pop and even my dumb ass can see that it doesn't.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#45 » by Lalouie » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:13 am

he can't even put up numbers in a small pond
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#46 » by Lalouie » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:17 am

The-Power wrote:It's indeed too early, so the only appropriate answer here is to be determined.



unless he's part of a trade package

scout are not fond of giving up on someone they invested time in but will if his value is in a trade package
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#47 » by Lalouie » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:19 am

there's a history of busts hanging on until the level of the nba drops enough for him to see some light = dimwiddie
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#48 » by Harry Palmer » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:19 am

Seems kinda out of control whenever I see him, which admittedly isn’t much.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#49 » by Dacost » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:44 am

Having one of the worst coaches of all time doesn't help much.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#50 » by FollowTheSound » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:07 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:He stinks. He cant shoot, he has very poor defensive instincts and his finishing is impressively bad.

He has 2 dunks this year and 16 in total over 77 games. He was touted as a Rose / Russ level athlete and is just nowhere close.

He might have that Joe Alexander athleticism - elite metrics when in an open gym but just totally unfunctional on the court in game.

Its not looking good - thankfully Sharpe is starting to play up to his talents and Donovan looks like a legit pick at 7.

The main issue right now for PDX is they need to dump Simons and Ayton for anything, literally anything. Scoot as a disappointment is a distant 2nd. But, ya, PDX for sure should not cross off PG next draft when evaluating talents.


He was never a great athlete, his insane wingspan is why he dunked so much.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#51 » by MrBigShot » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:17 am

He is an average nba athlete and a very poor shooter with a mediocre handle and poor finishing ability. Not a recipe for success. But he still has time. Some guys take several years to develop
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#52 » by CobraCommander » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:27 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Image





Yes.

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With the 3rd pick in the nba draft the Trail Blazers take Emmanuel Mudiay
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Post#53 » by Onlytimewilltel » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:30 am

JustBuzzin wrote:Yall owe the Hornets fans an apology. We were getting killed for taking Brandon Miller over Scoot.

MJ went out with a bang his best pick in the draft happen to be his last pick lol


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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#54 » by Gusto1903 » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:37 am

Some people on here wanted to pick scoot ahead of Wemby
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#55 » by dc » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:47 am

Gusto1903 wrote:Some people on here wanted to pick scoot ahead of Wemby


Those were probably closet Charlotte fans.

IIRC, there were even few people in 92' who thought Laettner should be taken ahead of Shaq. Obviously nobody took those people seriously. Also in 2012 some writer said the Hornets (now Pelicans) should take MKG over AD as a favor to Jordan (and the then Bobcats).
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#56 » by Ice Trae » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:49 am

Yeah the Mudiay comparison is what first popped in my mind as well. Both guys were touted as DRose/Westbrook/Wall level athletes coming out of the draft. Didn't see it in Mudiay and not seeing it in Scoot either. It's still early of course but it's not looking good
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#57 » by Alatan » Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:58 am

mademan wrote:Im not sure what he does well and his athleticism doesnt standout on a basketball court. I know its still early but man he doesnt look good


Kid was a typical case of man among boys basketball. Now that he is playing against other physically developed men he is ass.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#58 » by Mr Peanut » Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:09 am

As others have said it's still too early to say. But the signs aren't good so far, and if I was asked with a gun to my head I would say he's likely definitively considered a bust by the end of his rookie contract.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#59 » by dc » Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:15 am

MrBigShot wrote:He is an average nba athlete and a very poor shooter with a mediocre handle and poor finishing ability. Not a recipe for success. But he still has time. Some guys take several years to develop


The hope for all of these lotto PGs who look like busts early on is always Chauncey, but most of them wind up being more like Antonio Daniels (taken right after Chauncey).
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Not if people make calls on him. Not if an organization is doing their homework and knows all the things he brings with him.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#60 » by JRoy » Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:56 am

Ice Trae wrote:Yeah the Mudiay comparison is what first popped in my mind as well. Both guys were touted as DRose/Westbrook/Wall level athletes coming out of the draft. Didn't see it in Mudiay and not seeing it in Scoot either. It's still early of course but it's not looking good


I saw Eric Bledsoe as a comparison. Mudaiu would be a real disappointment for a third overall pick, which he certainly is at best.
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