With the 57th pick, the Raptors select Ulrich Chomche

[bonjovi0308]

That is why many people are not scouts. You judge a player based on his current skillets, his drive and his potential, not where he was being picked.

[RoteSchroder]

Everyone's record of developing 2nd round picks is low. That's why they're 2nd round picks

And which is why don't get too much hope with Chomche being a low 2nd round pick.
High 2nd would be better, but Chomche is a low 2nd round pick, so him reaching his ceiling can be a much higher risk.

Fair but drafting a guy like this is exactly what you should be doing with that low a pick. Raw but with big upside if he pans out years from now

I feel like the formula for successful 2nd round picks has generally been due to players having some physical limitations, having an undeveloped jumper and/or their skill set is limited to role player stuff

Norman Powell, Jokic, Jerami Grant, FVV, Draymond Green, Mogbo, Shead, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Marc Gasol, Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Malcolm Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones, Nembhard, Paul Millsap

I have a hard time pinpointing any second round pick who was as raw as Chomche that has ever panned out. Technically, I think Caboclo could take a back-up role now.

[Dr. Nick]

Caboclo was a first rounder

[Indeed]

And which is why don't get too much hope with Chomche being a low 2nd round pick.
High 2nd would be better, but Chomche is a low 2nd round pick, so him reaching his ceiling can be a much higher risk.

Fair but drafting a guy like this is exactly what you should be doing with that low a pick. Raw but with big upside if he pans out years from now

I feel like the formula for successful 2nd round picks has generally been due to players having some physical limitations, having an undeveloped jumper and/or their skill set is limited to role player stuff

Norman Powell, Jokic, Jerami Grant, FVV, Draymond Green, Mogbo, Shead, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Marc Gasol, Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Malcolm Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones, Nembhard, Paul Millsap

I have a hard time pinpointing any second round pick who was as raw as Chomche that has ever panned out. Technically, I think Caboclo could take a back-up role now.

Yes, but our 2nd round picks are usually more experience (years in college) players. Usually they show enough and feel they can continue to improve.

As for having a low 2nd round pick for him, I wouldn't object to it, just don't be too attach to him. We might as well draft another C this year with different strength / skill set, which I am also happy with.

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And which is why don't get too much hope with Chomche being a low 2nd round pick.
High 2nd would be better, but Chomche is a low 2nd round pick, so him reaching his ceiling can be a much higher risk.

Fair but drafting a guy like this is exactly what you should be doing with that low a pick. Raw but with big upside if he pans out years from now

I feel like the formula for successful 2nd round picks has generally been due to players having some physical limitations, having an undeveloped jumper and/or their skill set is limited to role player stuff

Norman Powell, Jokic, Jerami Grant, FVV, Draymond Green, Mogbo, Shead, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Marc Gasol, Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Malcolm Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones, Nembhard, Paul Millsap

I have a hard time pinpointing any second round pick who was as raw as Chomche that has ever panned out. Technically, I think Caboclo could take a back-up role now.

Look at Brandon Boston (#51 pick), it took him 3 years to finally show signs of being an NBA player.

Isaiah Hartenstein?

[ATLTimekeeper]

That is why many people are not scouts. You judge a player based on his current skillets, his drive and his potential, not where he was being picked.

lol scouts literally dictate where players are picked (what they are worth), and the results speak for themselves. The higher up the more successful.

[RoteSchroder]

Fair but drafting a guy like this is exactly what you should be doing with that low a pick. Raw but with big upside if he pans out years from now

I feel like the formula for successful 2nd round picks has generally been due to players having some physical limitations, having an undeveloped jumper and/or their skill set is limited to role player stuff

Norman Powell, Jokic, Jerami Grant, FVV, Draymond Green, Mogbo, Shead, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Marc Gasol, Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Malcolm Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones, Nembhard, Paul Millsap

I have a hard time pinpointing any second round pick who was as raw as Chomche that has ever panned out. Technically, I think Caboclo could take a back-up role now.

Look at Brandon Boston (#51 pick), it took him 3 years to finally show signs of being an NBA player.

Isaiah Hartenstein?

Not sure if either were that raw for their age. Feels like Chomche still needs to work on a lot of basics. I’m not sure Chomche gets 30 min/game in college like Brandon for example.

[manjusaka]

And which is why don't get too much hope with Chomche being a low 2nd round pick.
High 2nd would be better, but Chomche is a low 2nd round pick, so him reaching his ceiling can be a much higher risk.

Fair but drafting a guy like this is exactly what you should be doing with that low a pick. Raw but with big upside if he pans out years from now

I feel like the formula for successful 2nd round picks has generally been due to players having some physical limitations, having an undeveloped jumper and/or their skill set is limited to role player stuff

Norman Powell, Jokic, Jerami Grant, FVV, Draymond Green, Mogbo, Shead, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Marc Gasol, Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Malcolm Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones, Nembhard, Paul Millsap

I have a hard time pinpointing any second round pick who was as raw as Chomche that has ever panned out. Technically, I think Caboclo could take a back-up role now.

Amir Johnson drafted out of high school. 2nd round (26th pick, 56th overall)

He became a rotation piece at age 22, year 5 in the NBA with us. And this is my expectation for Chomche.

[RoteSchroder]

Fair but drafting a guy like this is exactly what you should be doing with that low a pick. Raw but with big upside if he pans out years from now

I feel like the formula for successful 2nd round picks has generally been due to players having some physical limitations, having an undeveloped jumper and/or their skill set is limited to role player stuff

Norman Powell, Jokic, Jerami Grant, FVV, Draymond Green, Mogbo, Shead, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Marc Gasol, Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Malcolm Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones, Nembhard, Paul Millsap

I have a hard time pinpointing any second round pick who was as raw as Chomche that has ever panned out. Technically, I think Caboclo could take a back-up role now.

Amir Johnson drafted out of high school. 2nd round (26th pick, 56th overall)

Amir was considered a 4 star recruit coming out of HS. Not sure if he was having difficulty with lay-ups and airballing or hitting the top of the backboard on shots 5 feet away from the rim.

Amir’s D-league stats: 18.9 points, 9.7 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.2 steals and 3.1 blocks per game, while shooting 62.3% from the field

I’d blow my load if Chomche could come close to that in the G-league.

Weird thing about Chomche is that he shows some potential on his jump shooting and passing, but is way behind on some very basic basketball skills

[TimeForChange]

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My read on Chomche after watching the game yesterday is that he has the potential to be a good NBA big man, but has a lot to learn, and has to become a lot more decisive. Decisiveness ought to come with loads of playing time. Buying the pick from Minnesota and having no competition from other teams (as there would have been had he been undrafted), they were able to basically impose the rare two-year two-way contract, which I expect will be beneficial for both sides in the long run. Coach Drew Jones said Chomche is being restricted to the basics right now, and the team will add things for him over time. That sounds like the right plan.

[PoundTown]

I feel like the formula for successful 2nd round picks has generally been due to players having some physical limitations, having an undeveloped jumper and/or their skill set is limited to role player stuff

Norman Powell, Jokic, Jerami Grant, FVV, Draymond Green, Mogbo, Shead, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Marc Gasol, Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Malcolm Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones, Nembhard, Paul Millsap

I have a hard time pinpointing any second round pick who was as raw as Chomche that has ever panned out. Technically, I think Caboclo could take a back-up role now.

Amir Johnson drafted out of high school. 2nd round (26th pick, 56th overall)

Amir was considered a 4 star recruit coming out of HS. Not sure if he was having difficulty with lay-ups and airballing or hitting the top of the backboard on shots 5 feet away from the rim.

Amir’s D-league stats: 18.9 points, 9.7 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.2 steals and 3.1 blocks per game, while shooting 62.3% from the field

I’d blow my load if Chomche could come close to that in the G-league.

Weird thing about Chomche is that he shows some potential on his jump shooting and passing, but is way behind on some very basic basketball skills

I think back to when we first got Chris Boucher, the man did not really know how to play basketball, but relied on energy, activity, length and athleticism. Getting chomche to be as disciplined as possible, as fundamentally sound as possible, while playing with all out reckless abandon is probably the best way to develop him. Add the shooting and passing continuing to develop and you can see a rotation player in a few years.

[Vampirate]

This guy is our Center of the future if he pans out.

22 minutes 57.5% FG/ 6 Rbs/ 2.9 Blks/ 3.6 Fouls

His shooting overall and fouls is what's holding him back mostly. FT shooting of 40%

He has one of the highest ceilings in that draft class due to his age/height/athleticism.

In some respects he's like Sarr, but a little shorter, however younger and actually probably stronger

Sarr is listed at 7 feet 205 lbs, Chomche is 6"11 at 235 lbs

I wish we would just trade Yak and start this guy.

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His only miss was at least straight on.

I was cool drafting him with the Jakobe Walter draft pick from the Pacers.

[Psubs]

This guy is our Center of the future if he pans out.

22 minutes 57.5% FG/ 6 Rbs/ 2.9 Blks/ 3.6 Fouls

His shooting overall and fouls is what's holding him back mostly. FT shooting of 40%

He has one of the highest ceilings in that draft class due to his age/height/athleticism.

In some respects he's like Sarr, but a little shorter, however younger and actually probably stronger

Sarr is listed at 7 feet 205 lbs, Chomche is 6"11 at 235 lbs

I wish we would just trade Yak and start this guy.

He's more agile on defense. I think he could be a PF. Maluach or Ivisic as the C, move Scottie to SF. That would be in 3-4 years if they pan out.

If they can't get back into the race by the deadline and want to tank then trade Poeltl.

[S.W.A.N]

This guy is our Center of the future if he pans out.

22 minutes 57.5% FG/ 6 Rbs/ 2.9 Blks/ 3.6 Fouls

His shooting overall and fouls is what's holding him back mostly. FT shooting of 40%

He has one of the highest ceilings in that draft class due to his age/height/athleticism.

In some respects he's like Sarr, but a little shorter, however younger and actually probably stronger

Sarr is listed at 7 feet 205 lbs, Chomche is 6"11 at 235 lbs

I wish we would just trade Yak and start this guy.

That is just dumb. Great way to wreck a team and his development. G-league is perfect place for him, he's far to raw to get real minutes.

[YogurtProducer]

This guy is our Center of the future if he pans out.

22 minutes 57.5% FG/ 6 Rbs/ 2.9 Blks/ 3.6 Fouls

His shooting overall and fouls is what's holding him back mostly. FT shooting of 40%

He has one of the highest ceilings in that draft class due to his age/height/athleticism.

In some respects he's like Sarr, but a little shorter, however younger and actually probably stronger

Sarr is listed at 7 feet 205 lbs, Chomche is 6"11 at 235 lbs

I wish we would just trade Yak and start this guy.

That is just dumb. Great way to wreck a team and his development. G-league is perfect place for him, he's far to raw to get real minutes.

Explains a lot of some of the opinions you see around here though

[MEDIC]

This guy is our Center of the future if he pans out.

22 minutes 57.5% FG/ 6 Rbs/ 2.9 Blks/ 3.6 Fouls

His shooting overall and fouls is what's holding him back mostly. FT shooting of 40%

He has one of the highest ceilings in that draft class due to his age/height/athleticism.

In some respects he's like Sarr, but a little shorter, however younger and actually probably stronger

Sarr is listed at 7 feet 205 lbs, Chomche is 6"11 at 235 lbs

I wish we would just trade Yak and start this guy.

That is just dumb. Great way to wreck a team and his development. G-league is perfect place for him, he's far to raw to get real minutes.

Yeah. There is a reason he got a 2 way & not a full deal. He's not ready. Being in the GLeage isn't hurting his development. It's supporting his development. He has a long road. One step at a time.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Fair but drafting a guy like this is exactly what you should be doing with that low a pick. Raw but with big upside if he pans out years from now

I feel like the formula for successful 2nd round picks has generally been due to players having some physical limitations, having an undeveloped jumper and/or their skill set is limited to role player stuff

Norman Powell, Jokic, Jerami Grant, FVV, Draymond Green, Mogbo, Shead, Trayce Jackson-Davis, Marc Gasol, Ginobili, Montrezl Harrell, Malcolm Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Brunson, Herb Jones, Nembhard, Paul Millsap

I have a hard time pinpointing any second round pick who was as raw as Chomche that has ever panned out. Technically, I think Caboclo could take a back-up role now.

Amir Johnson drafted out of high school. 2nd round (26th pick, 56th overall)

He became a rotation piece at age 22, year 5 in the NBA with us. And this is my expectation for Chomche.

I would bet Amir was already a decent nba player in his age 20/21 seasons, he actually played minutes and had 15 PER in those years, we'll see what Chom is doing in his age 20 year.

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His only miss was at least straight on.

I was cool drafting him with the Jakobe Walter draft pick from the Pacers.

There certainly is a basketball player we have there. He's got the tools and some marketable NBA skills. Just gotta teach him how to read the game more.

I'm watching G League highlights just to see Chomche...and man does he get after those shots. He's a shot blocker for sure. I would love to see that 3 pointer deployed at some point as well. 18 years old still....man...