Tank World Order V (Rise of the Phoenix)

[Tor_Raps]

Portland, Utah and the Spurs all won. Guess they're all making the playoffs too lol.

if they were in the east....look at the Bucks they went from the bottom to the 5th seed, didn't take much.

Ya, didn't take much. Just having a guy named Giannis who's dropping 30/10/10 nightly lol.

[YogurtProducer]

So what? You only going to count their record when totally healthy? How many games will that be this season? Maybe 40? What about all the other team's injuries? Ridiculous. A team's depth on the roster actually matters.

The tank is the most realistic option currently.

Nope, they all count.

But if you’re going to try and project going forward it’s pretty important to note our record when Barnes is playing, and also keep in mind at least 3 key rotation pieces have been missing in every single games he’s played, and he’s played 4/5 games against really good teams.

So it should be expected a healthy Barnes, and then later a healthy IQ/Ko/BB is gonna lead to wins.

Not hard to understand.

Again, so what? I could point to every team being better at 100%. The objective remains the same, building a legitimate threat in the playoffs. I have zero interest in being a 7-11 team.

But every team isn’t better at 100% nor is every other team facing the level of injuries we are.

And okay - cool - that’s not the conversation at hand.

You’re not a dumb guy it’s clear, so stop being a disingenuous one in every **** conversation at hand.

[Jerry Lucas]

Nope, they all count.

But if you’re going to try and project going forward it’s pretty important to note our record when Barnes is playing, and also keep in mind at least 3 key rotation pieces have been missing in every single games he’s played, and he’s played 4/5 games against really good teams.

So it should be expected a healthy Barnes, and then later a healthy IQ/Ko/BB is gonna lead to wins.

Not hard to understand.

Again, so what? I could point to every team being better at 100%. The objective remains the same, building a legitimate threat in the playoffs. I have zero interest in being a 7-11 team.

But every team isn’t better at 100% nor is every other team facing the level of injuries we are.

And okay - cool - that’s not the conversation at hand.

You’re not a dumb guy it’s clear, so stop being a disingenuous one in every **** conversation at hand.

Maybe stay in your game thread safe space you had a hand in having created instead of personal attacking a pro-tanker in the Tank World Order thread.

[YogurtProducer]

Again, so what? I could point to every team being better at 100%. The objective remains the same, building a legitimate threat in the playoffs. I have zero interest in being a 7-11 team.

But every team isn’t better at 100% nor is every other team facing the level of injuries we are.

And okay - cool - that’s not the conversation at hand.

You’re not a dumb guy it’s clear, so stop being a disingenuous one in every **** conversation at hand.

Maybe stay in your game thread safe space you had a hand in having created instead of personal attacking a pro-tanker in the Tank World Order thread.

Calling someone disingenuous isn’t an attack

[ItsDanger]

Nope, they all count.

But if you’re going to try and project going forward it’s pretty important to note our record when Barnes is playing, and also keep in mind at least 3 key rotation pieces have been missing in every single games he’s played, and he’s played 4/5 games against really good teams.

So it should be expected a healthy Barnes, and then later a healthy IQ/Ko/BB is gonna lead to wins.

Not hard to understand.

Again, so what? I could point to every team being better at 100%. The objective remains the same, building a legitimate threat in the playoffs. I have zero interest in being a 7-11 team.

But every team isn’t better at 100% nor is every other team facing the level of injuries we are.

And okay - cool - that’s not the conversation at hand.

You’re not a dumb guy it’s clear, so stop being a disingenuous one in every **** conversation at hand.

The irony of using the word disingenuous in a tanking thread in this context is rich, even coming from you.

[ItsDanger]

Tank is back at it.

[Basketball_Jones]

I think I’m leaning towards Bailey we need movement shooting.

[Coco Costanza]

Oh, you thought it was over for tWo?

[PhilBlackson]

Oh, you thought it was over for tWo?

This was against the current best team in the league at home & we kept it relatively close while still missing our 2nd best player/starting PG and numerous other rotation pieces and our starting SG didn’t make it through the game soooooo a bit too soon to get cocky about it lol…we’ll see but I’m sure as hell praying that the tank is alive and thrives (just not nearly as confident)

[wegotthabeet]

Read on Twitter

this is for all the people who think RJ or IQ are going to suddenly become allstar caliber

I don’t know if those guys will ever be all stars, but you have outliers like Lowry that didn’t make it until age 28 so I wouldn’t rule it out completely. It’s unlikely that either makes it multiple times and probably not six years in a row.

[DelAbbot]

Oh, you thought it was over for tWo?

Come on guys, put this in the PG. Team compete was plastering "tank is dead" in PG last game, it's our turn.

[DelAbbot]

Oh, you thought it was over for tWo?

This was against the current best team in the league at home & we kept it relatively close while still missing our 2nd best player/starting PG and numerous other rotation pieces and our starting SG didn’t make it through the game soooooo a bit too soon to get cocky about it lol…we’ll see but I’m sure as hell praying that the tank is alive and thrives (just not nearly as confident)

Keep that rationality out of here.

It's a war, and team compete started it

[bballsparkin]

I'm not confident in the tank. We need divine intervention.

[720]

Oh, you thought it was over for tWo?

Come on guys, put this in the PG. Team compete was plastering "tank is dead" in PG last game, it's our turn.

I did my job with the Cooper Flagg post. But Scottie haters have hijacked the thread and pushing their agenda.

[Clutch0z24]

All of team treadmill need to understand the greater good of getting a high end draft pick....I think they lack this understanding because they seen Masai draft decent players in the 20s....News flash all them players he drafted in the 20s were never number 1 options or franchise changing talent...

Also teams can be built without a true number 1 and be a good team in the reg season....BUT the ceiling is capped at 2nd round playoffs at best....We right now are a team built with a sum of parts that has potential to be this kind of a treadmill of a team...

We can look at the 57 win Denver team in 2013....Never had a true number 1 just had a bunch of good players who played well together....That team didn't last, Look at them Hawks teams that also had alot of good players and had really good reg season records....Got folded in the playoffs every time, Look at our own DD/Lowry lead Raptors teams....Always good reg season but still was never good enough to win when it mattered....

All them teams have a thing in common....They lacked a true first option.....If Raptors are as good as team treadmill want to believe you need to consider...Add any legit first option to this current Raptors team you are prolly looking at a title contender....Look at what Luka was able to do with very minimal co stars...The first year he had a legit one in Kyrie he made the finals....I want to avoid being a 2nd round loser of a team and build this team the right way and thats getting that high draft pick...

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Tank is back at it.

This was a low-key a big blowout loss (win?) for the tWo. I think a victory over the Cavs would've ended the tWo movement. This team is ready and willing to compete and just need to show up for some fake wins to put the final nails in the coffin (cue some sort of old wrestling gif featuring Paul Bearer and the Undertaker IDC).

[Scase]

All of team treadmill need to understand the greater good of getting a high end draft pick....I think they lack this understanding because they seen Masai draft decent players in the 20s....News flash all them players he drafted in the 20s were never number 1 options or franchise changing talent...

Also teams can be built without a true number 1 and be a good team in the reg season....BUT the ceiling is capped at 2nd round playoffs at best....We right now are a team built with a sum of parts that has potential to be this kind of a treadmill of a team...

We can look at the 57 win Denver team in 2013....Never had a true number 1 just had a bunch of good players who played well together....That team didn't last, Look at them Hawks teams that also had alot of good players and had really good reg season records....Got folded in the playoffs every time, Look at our own DD/Lowry lead Raptors teams....Always good reg season but still was never good enough to win when it mattered....

All them teams have a thing in common....They lacked a true first option.....If Raptors are as good as team treadmill want to believe you need to consider...Add any legit first option to this current Raptors team you are prolly looking at a title contender....Look at what Luka was able to do with very minimal co stars...The first year he had a legit one in Kyrie he made the finals....I want to avoid being a 2nd round loser of a team and build this team the right way and thats getting that high draft pick...

Gotta wonder how much the narrative would change if that Kawhi trade didn't work out. Great trade and he deserves all the flowers for it, but if it didn't it's just another team like you laid out above. Good enough, but not good enough. This is what happens when you try to build from the middle all the time.

[Thaddy]

RJ and IQ aren't all star players. We traded a non-all star for them in OG. What can happen is that these guys end up being more valuable that OG over the course of their career.

[Duffman100]

Oh, you thought it was over for tWo?

This was against the current best team in the league at home & we kept it relatively close while still missing our 2nd best player/starting PG and numerous other rotation pieces and our starting SG didn’t make it through the game soooooo a bit too soon to get cocky about it lol…we’ll see but I’m sure as hell praying that the tank is alive and thrives (just not nearly as confident)

Keep that rationality out of here.

It's a war, and team compete started it

LOL "a war"... cmon now.

[YogurtProducer]

All of team treadmill need to understand the greater good of getting a high end draft pick....

There is exactly 0 people on this board who want a treadmill team it is quite easy to win an argument when you can make up a boogeyman to defeat...

The closest I can see to "team treadmill" is people pointing out that this team is to good to be as bad as TWO wants it to be, and that there is definitely a conversation to be had that if our current guys TWO wants to build around aren't good enough to be above the bottom 5 anyways then we have much larger problems at hand.

But hey - TWO still thinks we are bad enough to be bottom 3-5 in the league and somehow by next year or the year after with a top 3 pick those same players can be major contributors to a contender