Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions

[emunney]

Unfortunately, Middleton is definitely not the difference in blowing leads like this. Lamelo and Brandon Miller are both pretty damn good scorers. Sometimes those guys are just going to get theirs.

That said, whoever proposed playing Taurean at 4 and moving Bobby for the best big defensive 4( 4/5 would be better) that we can get seems like the best move they can realistically make.

I'd love to figure out a way to get Laravia and/or Aldama here but nothing works in trade machine. Even if it did, Grizz wouldn't be interested.

He might be. As a 3rd option, he might get some pretty open shots, as long as the team keeps passing the ball well. Could prevent the drouts and take the pressure off of Dame to have to be the man.

I wouldn't even say they blew this lead. They were just struggling with a white hot 6-6 playmaker making all kinds of very difficult shots.

I think it was a mistake to put Prince out there instead of Dre when Green fouled out, but an understandable one. I don't expect any basketball pros to ever really admit that you can be a good offensive player without scoring. It requires too much unlearning.

[Fotis St]

I looooooooove Cam Thomas .... get him here Horst.... I don't care how.

The Celtics are loaded with offensive weapons scoring nearly 140 when locked in ... we struggled to score 100 alot of times ... we need some ez buckets guy to replace Khris.

I wish we could replace Brook with Ayton or Allen and Khris with Jerami or Cam Thomas ... or anyone healthy enough to carry some scoring load efficiently. I would love to make a deal where we get Ayton + Cam Thomas... alot of problems would be solved.

[paulpressey25]

Bucks get: Tari Eason
Rockets get: Cam Johnson
Nets get: Pat Connaughton, Marjon, 2025 2nd from Houston, 2031 1st from Milwaukee

Gets the Bucks below the 2nd apron, opens a spot to sign Rollins to a multi year deal, and adds Eason into the rotation.

This is the deal that I'd sign off on an unprotected 2031 pick for. But it feels like NJ gets an overpay here and the Rockets an underpay. Nonetheless well constructed.

[Ron Swanson]

If they determine that they can't trust Khris' durability then I'd probably bite the bullet and look at something like this.

Khris/Bobby/Marjon

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D'Andre Hunter/Bogdan Bogdanovic

It wouldn't be my first choice, but it's a legal trade that gets you below the 2nd apron and doesn't require us to jettison the 2031 1st. Gives you all sorts of small-ball combinations to play with. Willing to take a gamble on Hunter looking better with a change of scenery. I think Atlanta does it assuming they believe they can flip Khris and/or Bobby for another expiring and an asset.

[BigO]

Unfortunately, Middleton is definitely not the difference in blowing leads like this. Lamelo and Brandon Miller are both pretty damn good scorers. Sometimes those guys are just going to get theirs.

That said, whoever proposed playing Taurean at 4 and moving Bobby for the best big defensive 4( 4/5 would be better) that we can get seems like the best move they can realistically make.

I'd love to figure out a way to get Laravia and/or Aldama here but nothing works in trade machine. Even if it did, Grizz wouldn't be interested.

He might be. As a 3rd option, he might get some pretty open shots, as long as the team keeps passing the ball well. Could prevent the drouts and take the pressure off of Dame to have to be the man.

I wouldn't even say they blew this lead. They were just struggling with a white hot 6-6 playmaker making all kinds of very difficult shots.

I think it was a mistake to put Prince out there instead of Dre when Green fouled out, but an understandable one. I don't expect any basketball pros to ever really admit that you can be a good offensive player without scoring. It requires too much unlearning.

It was a mistake to keep Green in when he was being cooked pretty easily by Ball. The Bucks needed stops, not points.

I know all of you love Green's defense (I like it too), but he's not a stopper of quicker guards. As it turns out, not much was going to stop Ball. He's a unique talent.

[raferfenix]

Khris/Bobby/Marjon

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D'Andre Hunter/Bogdan Bogdanovic

Onyeka Okongwu is more interesting to me than either of those wings.

Both Hunter and Bogdan have injury issues too without the ceiling Khris does.

Hawks would be sneakily dropping long term cap while taking a flier on Middleton being healthy at the right time when just about everyone’s got a shot in the play-in era.

[Ron Swanson]

Khris/Bobby/Marjon

for

D'Andre Hunter/Bogdan Bogdanovic

Onyeka Okongwu is more interesting to me than either of those wings.

Both Hunter and Bogdan have injury issues too without the ceiling Khris does.

Hawks would be sneakily dropping long term cap while taking a flier on Middleton being healthy at the right time when just about everyone’s got a shot in the play-in era.

Nah, we can't be using assets on guys who can't space the floor around Giannis. I'd be much more interested in Nance than Okongwu. Everything going forward needs to be built around Giannis as the playoff Center for this team.

[Profound23]

Cam Thomas and Dame on defense scares me.

[ShootingtheJ]

If they determine that they can't trust Khris' durability then I'd probably bite the bullet and look at something like this.

Khris/Bobby/Marjon

for

D'Andre Hunter/Bogdan Bogdanovic

It wouldn't be my first choice, but it's a legal trade that gets you below the 2nd apron and doesn't require us to jettison the 2031 1st. Gives you all sorts of small-ball combinations to play with. Willing to take a gamble on Hunter looking better with a change of scenery. I think Atlanta does it assuming they believe they can flip Khris and/or Bobby for another expiring and an asset.

Why would we downgrade to Bogdan when he also has major durability issues?

Then throw in the fact that Bogdan has never averaged 15 ppg in a playoff series. Khris has averaged over 20 in 7 of his last 8 playoff series.

This is a big hell no to me.

[ShootingtheJ]

Cam Thomas and Dame on defense scares me.

I'm guessing we checked in on Thomas as part of a 3 team deal. Our 1st and a bad contract for Thomas who'd be rerouted for...

[ShootingtheJ]

Bucks get: Tari Eason
Rockets get: Cam Johnson
Nets get: Pat Connaughton, Marjon, 2025 2nd from Houston, 2031 1st from Milwaukee

Gets the Bucks below the 2nd apron, opens a spot to sign Rollins to a multi year deal, and adds Eason into the rotation.

This is the deal that I'd sign off on an unprotected 2031 pick for. But it feels like NJ gets an overpay here and the Rockets an underpay. Nonetheless well constructed.

Brooklyn has consistently asked for 2- 1sts for Cam Johnson, and now he's blowing up. Did the original poster mean to type Cam Thomas?

[fansinceforever]

Hunter/Bogdanovic for Midds/Bobby/Marjon is probably the closest we've seen on here to realistic/fair value in a while.

I pushed for Eason all summer. We're not getting him. He's probably their 3rd/4th best player.
What would be their motivation to trade him?

[ShootingtheJ]

I looooooooove Cam Thomas .... get him here Horst.... I don't care how.

The Celtics are loaded with offensive weapons scoring nearly 140 when locked in ... we struggled to score 100 alot of times ... we need some ez buckets guy to replace Khris.

I wish we could replace Brook with Ayton or Allen and Khris with Jerami or Cam Thomas ... or anyone healthy enough to carry some scoring load efficiently. I would love to make a deal where we get Ayton + Cam Thomas... alot of problems would be solved.

We could get those 2 pretty easily, but we won't because that would be awful. Ayton might be the worst contract in the league.

[ShootingtheJ]

Hunter/Bogdanovic for Midds/Bobby/Marjon is probably the closest we've seen on here to realistic/fair value in a while.

I pushed for Eason all summer. We're not getting him. He's probably their 3rd/4th best player.
What would be their motivation to trade him?

You think Houston believes he's their 3rd best player? I would expect the coach to get fired any day then, as he doesn't even play Eason 23 minutes a game, and he's 7th on their team in mpg.

I agree with you that hes that good, but they don't treat him that way at all.

[drone3]

Deni would have been a great fit for us. Chancey was playing him as a small ball C , he was shutting down Sengun. We need a Swiss army switchable guy like Deni

[ShootingtheJ]

Deni would have been a great fit for us. Chancey was playing him as a small ball C , he was shutting down Sengun. We need a Swiss army switchable guy like Deni

Get their other versatile guy, Dalano Banton. Not as good defensively on the ball as Deni, but holds his own, and still offers solid weak side shot blocking. Offensively, he adds some much need playmaking when Giannis sits.

[raferfenix]

Nah, we can't be using assets on guys who can't space the floor around Giannis. I'd be much more interested in Nance than Okongwu. Everything going forward needs to be built around Giannis as the playoff Center for this team.

An athletic versatile hustle big seems pretty great for this team even if we have to deal with the spacing constraint.

I’m also interested in Nance don’t get me wrong.

But Okongwu is a big step up defensively (especially switching onto wings), right?

Alternatively your scenario leaves us way thin up front with Bobby heading out if there’s a way to pick up Nance in the deal.

[theFireBlanket]

Torrey Craig? Been there, that didn't work. Don't revisit.

Stand Pat on that.

[BigO]

These Middleton trades are wacko (or is it whacko?):

1) Bucks won't win a championship without a healthy Middleton, so trading him for middling players makes no sense.

2) If Middleton is too injury prone to take a chance on for the Bucks, why would another team that has no chance at a championship like Atlanta, give up younger players for him?

These proposals are nonsensical and internally contradictory. Otherwise, they're fine.

[ShootingtheJ]

These Middleton trades are wacko (or is it whacko?):

1) Bucks won't win a championship without a healthy Middleton, so trading him for middling players makes no sense.

2) If Middleton is too injury prone to take a chance on for the Bucks, why would another team that has no chance at a championship like Atlanta, give up younger players for him?

These proposals are nonsensical and internally contradictory. Otherwise, they're fine.

Atlanta does this deal in a second to get out from underneath contracts they'd love to move.

Hunter is consistently below replacement level and makes $21.6 million, with years left. Awful contract for a bad player.