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[soxperry]

I looooooooove Cam Thomas .... get him here Horst.... I don't care how.

The Celtics are loaded with offensive weapons scoring nearly 140 when locked in ... we struggled to score 100 alot of times ... we need some ez buckets guy to replace Khris.

I wish we could replace Brook with Ayton or Allen and Khris with Jerami or Cam Thomas ... or anyone healthy enough to carry some scoring load efficiently. I would love to make a deal where we get Ayton + Cam Thomas... alot of problems would be solved.

The Celtics are a juggernaut not because they have so much scoring. Its because all of their top 6 guys can defend at a high level, shoot, and pass.

Cam Thomas is a terrible defender and isnt really a distributor. He could have a role as a microwave scorer off the bench for a team with picks to burn and a great defense in place. We are not that team.

As someone else said, the only way we inquired about him is to satisfy a other team's needs in a different trade. He will not be a Buck, and thats a SoxPerry Promise.

[soxperry]

Im going to follow up my own post here: remember how unfair it was when Golden State somehow had Livingston coming off the bench and just doing whatever he wanted? To me, thats the Cam role if there is one on a championship team. Would he want that? I doubt it at this stage of his career. He probably still thinks he can be Devin Booker

Edit: Livingston didn't score nearly as much as i thought. So a rich man's Lou Williams is the better comp.

[slos]

Pat for Cam makes sense in terms of adding a youngish scorer while skipping the 2nd apron. Do I like it enough to sacrifice that 2031 FRP? That’s an easy pass. Are the Nets desperate to move him since he hurts their tanking and there is no market for him? We can talk.

It’s a home run if just Marjon and 2031 SRP is the price. I’m still OK if Brooklyn feels like adding some of Green/Smith/Livingston in the trade. I don’t know how I feel if they see the AJJs as a center piece.

[German Athens]

We better be calling the Pelicans every day.

The most they’ve won over the past 4 years is 49 games which they did last year. They would have to win at that same pace just to get to a winning record this year, and that still might not get them in the play-in.


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[Ron Swanson]

Nets are in serious danger of being too good to tank right now (suddenly that loss doesn't look so bad). But Cam Thomas absolutely does not hurt their tank and it's probably the opposite (they'll want his empty calorie numbers as a tank commander). DFS, Cam Johnson, and Schroeder are the guys they'd wanna move. Those guys are net positives.

[emunney]

Cam Thomas and Dame on defense scares me.

I'm guessing we checked in on Thomas as part of a 3 team deal. Our 1st and a bad contract for Thomas who'd be rerouted for...

Mogbo?

[midranger]

MKE: Portis to LAL
LAL: Filler and a Pick to NO
NO: Herb Jones to MKE

[raferfenix]

We better be calling the Pelicans every day.

The most they’ve won over the past 4 years is 49 games which they did last year. They would have to win at that same pace just to get to a winning record this year, and that still might not get them in the play-in.

What are your targets for New Orleans?

Herb Jones, or more viewing them as a team that's looking to make moves?

Ingram just fired his agent so maybe a new posture from him creates new possibilities fwiw.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't know why you guys keep thinking the Pelicans would wanna deal with us. They have every incentive to block any and all trades that make us better this season. If this were a pick swap year it might be different, but they own our 2025 1st outright. There's zero reason for them to help us.

[Bernman]

I don't know why you guys keep thinking the Pelicans would wanna deal with us. They have every incentive to block any and all trades that make us better this season. If this were a pick swap year it might be different, but they own our 2025 1st outright. There's zero reason for them to help us.

That's not really true. The Pelicans don't get ours unless it's 1-4, which it won't be & nothing New Orleans does will change that.

Their incentive to trade w/ us is they could use a viable big & Bobby is one. They also have large trade exceptions to take back more salary, facilitate a trade, & get us under the 2nd apron. They're a solid trade partner for us.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't know why you guys keep thinking the Pelicans would wanna deal with us. They have every incentive to block any and all trades that make us better this season. If this were a pick swap year it might be different, but they own our 2025 1st outright. There's zero reason for them to help us.

That's not really true. The Pelicans don't get ours unless it's 1-4, which it won't be & nothing New Orleans does will change that.

Their incentive to trade w/ us is they could use a viable big & Bobby is one. They're a solid trading partner.

They get our pick if it's not 1-4. They're 100% getting our pick and I'm sure they'd rather it be closer to #15 than #25.

[Bernman]

They get our pick if it's not 1-4. They're 100% getting our pick and I'm sure they'd rather it be closer to #15 than #25.

Realgm future picks: NOP: Mil 1-4, BKN: Mil 5-30

Fanspo: MIL's 2025 1st round pick to NOP protected for selections 5-30 or to BKN protected for selections 1-4

Spotrac: NOP if 1-4, BKN if 5-30


New Orleans gets it if 1-4, Brooklyn otherwise. So the Pelicans can deal away, at least near the deadline, before which they may delude themselves we'll end up in the lotto & they steal our pick by winning it.

[EasyE31]

Bucks get: Tari Eason
Rockets get: Cam Johnson
Nets get: Pat Connaughton, Marjon, 2025 2nd from Houston, 2031 1st from Milwaukee

Gets the Bucks below the 2nd apron, opens a spot to sign Rollins to a multi year deal, and adds Eason into the rotation.

This is the deal that I'd sign off on an unprotected 2031 pick for. But it feels like NJ gets an overpay here and the Rockets an underpay. Nonetheless well constructed.

Brooklyn has consistently asked for 2- 1sts for Cam Johnson, and now he's blowing up. Did the original poster mean to type Cam Thomas?

Ooops.. I did mean to put Cam Thomas

[Ron Swanson]

Ah, looks like the language is weird on other sites about that pick. Even still, don't think the Pelicans really have any interest in any trade that makes us better for the next 2-3 years given they still control our draft for 2026 and 2027. I don't think Herb is even available, but if he is, him and Ingram are guys they'd have every incentive to steer away from us unless we can just blow them away with an offer. Those guys are All-Star and All-Defense caliber players in their mid-20's.

[Bernman]

So it's actually Brooklyn who has disincentive to deal w/ us, because they'll be getting our pick this yr. So apply that to do all Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas, Dennis Schroder deals.

I'm averse to dealing the '31 1st anyway. The only way I'm amenable is if we get a core player that keeps Milwaukee contending w/ Giannis into his mid 30's. I guess Cam Thomas has that potential, but it's very likely he'd hurt us now. It'd have to be coupled w/ dealing Dame. So why not just deal Dame this season, or after, & keep the '31 pick.

[emunney]

Ah, looks like the language is weird on other sites about that pick. Even still, don't think the Pelicans really have any interest in any trade that makes us better for the next 2-3 years given they still control our draft for 2026 and 2027. I don't think Herb is even available, but if he is, him and Ingram are guys they'd have every incentive to steer away from us unless we can just blow them away with an offer. Those guys are All-Star and All-Defense caliber players in their mid-20's.

I wouldn't rule it out entirely, but you'd have to bake that into the trade somehow and it'd be a challenge. I guess I would question how much value it would really represent. Herb Jones or whoever isn't going to keep us from sucking if Giannis and Dame are gone/cooked. It'd be a marginal difference. They could certainly feel differently.

[German Athens]

I’m sure a team would value an additional 1st round pick more so than their pick this year or next moving back all of ~ 5 spots.


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[yb90]

If the Bucks can get Cam Thomas for a Pat and a '31 1st then sure you do the deal. Thomas is like having a younger better Jordan Poole. If he is okay in the Portis role off the bench you trade for him and then trade Portis to get a defensive big.

[Ron Swanson]

Eh, I'd just as soon rule out any of New Orleans, Brooklyn (at least for this year), and Portland with trade discussions at this point. You'd be paying a premium to deal with any of them knowing they have every incentive to want us to fail. Is that asset tax worth it for us? That's just as big a question, and given our lack of resources, I'd lean against it.

[Bernman]

What if, after we win the championship this season, we do a Dame deal w/ the Blazers & Pelicans, where we just get multiple of our own picks back? If part of the deal is them giving our picks back, then they have less disincentive to do it.

You could partly unwind the original Dame trade: Lillard back to Blazers for his swan song, Murray + 1sts to Bucks, Ayton + Scoot to New Orleans.