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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#461 » by queridiculo » Tue Nov 26, 2024 3:51 pm

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This is the new normal on this board, defend Dawkins at all cost. He's doing something, so free of criticism.

The problem I had with the Sarr pick all along was that 1) he had too cozy a relationship with Dawkins, 2) he wanted to be catered to and not play a position he very well should be playing, and 3) his strengths seem to be overshadowed by some very fundamental weaknesses (bad hands, wants to be given Durant when he's clearly not, doesn't want to mix it up down low, etc.). And I'm a huge fan of guys that are supposed to be defenders.

Sarr could pan out with that said, but man if I'm hedging he's got a lot of big fundamental gaps in his game that I think he's going to need to thread the needle on to live up to being the second pick (albeit it a crappy draft).


Fact free analysis.

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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#462 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:04 pm

queridiculo wrote:
CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
This is the new normal on this board, defend Dawkins at all cost. He's doing something, so free of criticism.

The problem I had with the Sarr pick all along was that 1) he had too cozy a relationship with Dawkins, 2) he wanted to be catered to and not play a position he very well should be playing, and 3) his strengths seem to be overshadowed by some very fundamental weaknesses (bad hands, wants to be given Durant when he's clearly not, doesn't want to mix it up down low, etc.). And I'm a huge fan of guys that are supposed to be defenders.

Sarr could pan out with that said, but man if I'm hedging he's got a lot of big fundamental gaps in his game that I think he's going to need to thread the needle on to live up to being the second pick (albeit it a crappy draft).


Fact free analysis.

Cool.


I appreciate the irony of your post.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#463 » by dobrojim » Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:49 pm

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
This is the new normal on this board, defend Dawkins at all cost. He's doing something, so free of criticism.

The problem I had with the Sarr pick all along was that 1) he had too cozy a relationship with Dawkins, 2) he wanted to be catered to and not play a position he very well should be playing, and 3) his strengths seem to be overshadowed by some very fundamental weaknesses (bad hands, wants to be given Durant when he's clearly not, doesn't want to mix it up down low, etc.). And I'm a huge fan of guys that are supposed to be defenders.

Sarr could pan out with that said, but man if I'm hedging he's got a lot of big fundamental gaps in his game that I think he's going to need to thread the needle on to live up to being the second pick (albeit it a crappy draft).


Fact free analysis.

Cool.


I appreciate the irony of your post.


Was thinking that was too clear a softball pitch to PiF for a repeat of his reminder of
the seeming relative randomness of performance to draft position.

What are reasonable expectations for high picks? If we based expectations on prior
history, expectations might ought to be notched back a bit. Shyte happens. Sometimes
it happens close to or even at the top of the draft. It's early days for a 19 yo kid who
has not yet played 20 NBA games. The realm of possibilities is wide.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#464 » by Dark Faze » Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:55 pm

I'll give Sarr the benefit of the doubt on the Hawks/Wiz preference. It's certainly true he wouldn't have had the same freedoms in Atlanta from a shot perspective, and as a result that might have limited his growth. On the other hand, maybe being forced from day 1 to just do the things he can do well might have also resulted in a better player. We'll never know.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#465 » by payitforward » Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:53 pm

dobrojim wrote:...a softball pitch to PiF for a repeat of his reminder of
the seeming relative randomness of performance to draft position....

Tho it's obvious that there have been some really terrible pick in the top 3, guys who have failed or been ordinary at best, still that "relative randomness" doesn't really hold for the top 3 spots in the draft.

Compare 13 & 14 to 23 & 24, on the other hand, & there really is no particular advantage overall to the higher pair. Especially if you consider that you can expect to trade the #12 pick for, say, the #22 this year & next year both.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#466 » by Despy » Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:38 am

He was the consenous #1 pick throughout the year. Dont need to defend Dawkins when he did the obvious thing

Hey the guy with 0 offensive game went 7-11 4-5 from 3
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#467 » by BearlyBallin » Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:35 pm

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The Master said, "Is not Reciprocity such a word? What you do not want done to yourself, do not do to others."
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#468 » by dobrojim » Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:02 pm

BearlyBallin wrote:
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Nice to see him have a very good shooting game from 3. All those people aghast
at him jacking (and bricking) 3s a few weeks ago will maybe quiet down for a little
while. Winning games is not the goal here.

Let's see how he plays at 60 games and a hundred 160 games.

The 3 pt shooting in this one game was encouraging for sure.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#469 » by closg00 » Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:32 pm

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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#470 » by queridiculo » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:02 pm

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
This is the new normal on this board, defend Dawkins at all cost. He's doing something, so free of criticism.

The problem I had with the Sarr pick all along was that 1) he had too cozy a relationship with Dawkins, 2) he wanted to be catered to and not play a position he very well should be playing, and 3) his strengths seem to be overshadowed by some very fundamental weaknesses (bad hands, wants to be given Durant when he's clearly not, doesn't want to mix it up down low, etc.). And I'm a huge fan of guys that are supposed to be defenders.

Sarr could pan out with that said, but man if I'm hedging he's got a lot of big fundamental gaps in his game that I think he's going to need to thread the needle on to live up to being the second pick (albeit it a crappy draft).


Fact free analysis.

Cool.


I appreciate the irony of your post.


Cool. Guess it beats making things up, eh?
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#471 » by AFM » Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:31 pm

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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#472 » by Tyrone Messby » Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:57 pm

The Bordeaux Blatche 8-) He’s already off to a better start than Kwame!

Fun fact I was at Kwame’s best ever game as a pro vs the Sac Kings and C Webb. Dropped 30 on em!
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#473 » by payitforward » Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:17 pm

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:This is the new normal on this board, defend Dawkins at all cost. He's doing something, so free of criticism....

If only he knew as much as you do about how players will turn out, life would be so much simpler for him.

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:The problem I had with the Sarr pick all along...

Whoa there, partner! If you say you didn't like the Sarr pick "all along" -- i.e. before the draft -- then, sure, I believe you. Only... who did you want Dawkins to pick? Oh, & while you're at it, please do point to the post where you expressed that choice.

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:...he's got a lot of big fundamental gaps in his game that I think he's going to need to thread the needle on to live up to being the second pick (albeit it a crappy draft).

For sure -- especially compared to... who was it you wanted to pick at #2 in the 2024 draft?
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#474 » by LyricalRico » Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:02 am

Tyrone Messby wrote:The Bordeaux Blatche 8-)


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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#475 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:03 pm

queridiculo wrote:
CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:
queridiculo wrote:
Fact free analysis.

Cool.


I appreciate the irony of your post.


Cool. Guess it beats making things up, eh?


Hey internet warrior, care to explain yourself and make a debate out of it? You gonna bark little dog or you gonna bite? :)
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#476 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sat Nov 30, 2024 6:10 pm

payitforward wrote:
CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:This is the new normal on this board, defend Dawkins at all cost. He's doing something, so free of criticism....

If only he knew as much as you do about how players will turn out, life would be so much simpler for him.

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:The problem I had with the Sarr pick all along...

Whoa there, partner! If you say you didn't like the Sarr pick "all along" -- i.e. before the draft -- then, sure, I believe you. Only... who did you want Dawkins to pick? Oh, & while you're at it, please do point to the post where you expressed that choice.

CntOutSmrtCrazy wrote:...he's got a lot of big fundamental gaps in his game that I think he's going to need to thread the needle on to live up to being the second pick (albeit it a crappy draft).

For sure -- especially compared to... who was it you wanted to pick at #2 in the 2024 draft?


How many times are you going to repeat the same junk? You've actually even asked me this question before, and youre more than welcome to go look at the draft thread. But I liked Sheppard, Clingan, and Holland.

Man it'll be great if Portland somehow gets the first pick. They could trot out a frontcourt of Clingan, Flagg, and Deni.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#477 » by payitforward » Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:48 pm

Sorry to repeat a question, amigo -- keep in mind that I'm old. Really old. I forget shxt. You will too! :)

I can imagine having taken Sheppard. Not Clingan (though he is likely to turn out to be a good player) or Holland (less sure of him -- tho obviously he has a ton of talent).

Not at 2, I mean. OTOH, I might well have traded down & been happy to get e.g. Clingan plus whatever else came in such a trade.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#478 » by AFM » Sun Dec 1, 2024 12:12 am

Alex "Mutombo Jr" Sarr aka THE BOURDEAUX BEAST

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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#479 » by Jay81 » Sun Dec 1, 2024 9:21 am

payitforward wrote:Sorry to repeat a question, amigo -- keep in mind that I'm old. Really old. I forget shxt. You will too! :)

I can imagine having taken Sheppard. Not Clingan (though he is likely to turn out to be a good player) or Holland (less sure of him -- tho obviously he has a ton of talent).

Not at 2, I mean. OTOH, I might well have traded down & been happy to get e.g. Clingan plus whatever else came in such a trade.

How old actually are you?
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#480 » by Dat2U » Sun Dec 1, 2024 10:38 am

Jay81 wrote:
payitforward wrote:Sorry to repeat a question, amigo -- keep in mind that I'm old. Really old. I forget shxt. You will too! :)

I can imagine having taken Sheppard. Not Clingan (though he is likely to turn out to be a good player) or Holland (less sure of him -- tho obviously he has a ton of talent).

Not at 2, I mean. OTOH, I might well have traded down & been happy to get e.g. Clingan plus whatever else came in such a trade.

How old actually are you?


He's least 900 give or take a century. Heard he had season tickets to the crusades.

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