Would you make any of these Lavine trades?

[Kiss of Death]

Lavine’s contract going forward makes it tough for the Rockets to sign their core players.

I can’t see them having any interest.

[LarsV8]

His efficiency averaged out over the last 5 years has been excellent?

His defense, attitude, injuries, okay. But to infer he’s not normally efficient isn’t wrong.

Talking about “barely neutral value” I don’t see why Bulls would have any interest in Jalen on his deal. White’s a better version of Jalen as is, why exactly do they want to flip a better player on a shorter contract in LaVine into Jalen with his PO? To save a little bit of money the next two seasons? To get a better but still mediocre defender who’s much worse on offense?

He is normally "efficient"' no arguments. His beginning to this year he has had "excellent efficiency", a step beyond "efficient". Never inferred he was not efficient. I inferred his combination of offense and defense is, at best, n

Jalen Green is still improving, a relative iron man, and stull has upside. He is not a "mediocre defender" by any stretch of the imagination. He is part of, one of, if not the best, defensive lineups in the NBA, this year. He looks mediocre compared to the other worldly defenders that we are lucky enough to have in the rotation, but is quite good.

I don't like his contract, I would have let him hit RFA, but the organization obviously has mapped out thier cap for the next few years, but I trust the organization has thought it through.

[K_chile22]

His efficiency averaged out over the last 5 years has been excellent?

His defense, attitude, injuries, okay. But to infer he’s not normally efficient isn’t wrong.

Talking about “barely neutral value” I don’t see why Bulls would have any interest in Jalen on his deal. White’s a better version of Jalen as is, why exactly do they want to flip a better player on a shorter contract in LaVine into Jalen with his PO? To save a little bit of money the next two seasons? To get a better but still mediocre defender who’s much worse on offense?

He is normally "efficient"' no arguments. His beginning to this year he has had "excellent efficiency", a step beyond "efficient". Never inferred he was not efficient. I inferred his combination of offense and defense is, at best, n

Jalen Green is still improving, a relative iron man, and stull has upside. He is not a "mediocre defender" by any stretch of the imagination. He is part of, one of, if not the best, defensive lineups in the NBA, this year. He looks mediocre compared to the other worldly defenders that we are lucky enough to have in the rotation, but is quite good.

I don't like his contract, I would have let him hit RFA, but the organization obviously has mapped out thier cap for the next few years, but I trust the organization has thought it through.

Their defense has been 6 points or more better with him off vs on the last two years. He's bad. They have a good defense with him as the worst defender and that's not nothing but he's not a positive contributor to that defense. He's better than he once was sure, solid on the ball vs guards but once he's off the ball it's very bad and impact stats show that.

[LarsV8]

His efficiency averaged out over the last 5 years has been excellent?

His defense, attitude, injuries, okay. But to infer he’s not normally efficient isn’t wrong.

Talking about “barely neutral value” I don’t see why Bulls would have any interest in Jalen on his deal. White’s a better version of Jalen as is, why exactly do they want to flip a better player on a shorter contract in LaVine into Jalen with his PO? To save a little bit of money the next two seasons? To get a better but still mediocre defender who’s much worse on offense?

He is normally "efficient"' no arguments. His beginning to this year he has had "excellent efficiency", a step beyond "efficient". Never inferred he was not efficient. I inferred his combination of offense and defense is, at best, n

Jalen Green is still improving, a relative iron man, and stull has upside. He is not a "mediocre defender" by any stretch of the imagination. He is part of, one of, if not the best, defensive lineups in the NBA, this year. He looks mediocre compared to the other worldly defenders that we are lucky enough to have in the rotation, but is quite good.

I don't like his contract, I would have let him hit RFA, but the organization obviously has mapped out thier cap for the next few years, but I trust the organization has thought it through.

Their defense has been 6 points or more better with him off vs on the last two years. He's bad. They have a good defense with him as the worst defender and that's not nothing but he's not a positive contributor to that defense. He's better than he once was sure, solid on the ball vs guards but once he's off the ball it's very bad and impact stats show that.

Um of course it's better with him off, Amen and Tari are the bench behind him, who as of now are two all defensive 1st teamers at this point.That doesn't make him bad.

[K_chile22]

He is normally "efficient"' no arguments. His beginning to this year he has had "excellent efficiency", a step beyond "efficient". Never inferred he was not efficient. I inferred his combination of offense and defense is, at best, n

Jalen Green is still improving, a relative iron man, and stull has upside. He is not a "mediocre defender" by any stretch of the imagination. He is part of, one of, if not the best, defensive lineups in the NBA, this year. He looks mediocre compared to the other worldly defenders that we are lucky enough to have in the rotation, but is quite good.

I don't like his contract, I would have let him hit RFA, but the organization obviously has mapped out thier cap for the next few years, but I trust the organization has thought it through.

Their defense has been 6 points or more better with him off vs on the last two years. He's bad. They have a good defense with him as the worst defender and that's not nothing but he's not a positive contributor to that defense. He's better than he once was sure, solid on the ball vs guards but once he's off the ball it's very bad and impact stats show that.

Um of course it's better with him off, Amen and Tari are the bench behind him, who as of now are two all defensive 1st teamers at this point.That doesn't make him bad.

Tari-Amen-Jalen all on: 106.8 defensive rating in 370 possessions, very very good!

Tari-Amen on + Jalen off: 102.6 defensive rating in 306 possessions, incredible

[LarsV8]

Their defense has been 6 points or more better with him off vs on the last two years. He's bad. They have a good defense with him as the worst defender and that's not nothing but he's not a positive contributor to that defense. He's better than he once was sure, solid on the ball vs guards but once he's off the ball it's very bad and impact stats show that.

Um of course it's better with him off, Amen and Tari are the bench behind him, who as of now are two all defensive 1st teamers at this point.That doesn't make him bad.

Tari-Amen-Jalen all on: 106.8 defensive rating in 370 possessions, very very good!

Tari-Amen on + Jalen off: 102.6 defensive rating in 306 possessions, incredible

We can agree to disagree.

But yea, absolute no on Lavine in my book.

[Chi town]

DEN seems most likely for MPJ. Bulls throw in Craig and send MPJ to another team for a 1st.

[DanishLakerFan]

LaVine has been half-decent so far this season - 20-5-5 on meh-efficiency - but its kinda hard to forget that heading into the season he was one of the most untradeable guys in the entire league. Not sure a luke-warm stretch is going to change his value all that much.

[Kazuya10]

What are you talking about?

He has been uber efficient.

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[dcstanley]

LaVine has been half-decent so far this season - 20-5-5 on meh-efficiency - but its kinda hard to forget that heading into the season he was one of the most untradeable guys in the entire league. Not sure a luke-warm stretch is going to change his value all that much.

I wouldn't characterize 64 TS% and 43% from 3 on 7 3PA as meh efficiency.

[DanishLakerFan]

LaVine has been half-decent so far this season - 20-5-5 on meh-efficiency - but its kinda hard to forget that heading into the season he was one of the most untradeable guys in the entire league. Not sure a luke-warm stretch is going to change his value all that much.

I wouldn't characterize 64 TS% and 43% from 3 on 7 3PA as meh efficiency.

Being an effective basketball player is more than just being an accurate shooter. PER is just slightly above league average at around 16 and his RPM/VORP/win shares all are mediocre.

And his shooting will likely regress to the mean.

[babyjax13]

DEN seems most likely for MPJ. Bulls throw in Craig and send MPJ to another team for a 1st.

Denver likely can't do that. They are close to the second apron and have to put together an entire team around 3 guys who will be making 130 million.