At what point does 76ers hole become too big?

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At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#1 » by jokeboy86 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:50 pm

I keep telling myself that as long as they make the play-in they'll be fine but the losses are piling up. Yes they're only 3.5 games out of the 10th seed but they're also 11 games under .500 and more than likely Embiid and George will probably miss some more games. Eventually they got to get going.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#2 » by SickMother » Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:55 pm

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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#3 » by og15 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:56 pm

3-14 at the moment, so 17 games gone, 65 remaining.

Let's say they only get the main guys together for 50 games the rest of the season, and in the remaining 15 games, they go 5-10 (I'm being pessimistic about it to stretch how much of a hole they could be in), so 8-24 in those 32 games.

If they win the other 50 games at a 50 win pace, that would get them to 38 wins, which is a .463 win percentage.

Currently, .463 win percentage would be 9th and would have them in the play-in. I'm assuming as long as they can make the play-in, they are content, so I suppose anything that projects them around 38+ wins they would be content to stomach.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#4 » by UcanUwill » Thu Nov 28, 2024 2:59 pm

WHen they are 20 games under .500, I think thats where I would write them off. Seems crazy that it would need such a deep hole, but East is so bad, its games back thign as you have said, it only took Bucks two good weeks to get into home court advantage territory almost. Phillies hole is getting deeper, it is no longer comparable to Bucks, but they still within reach.

Wild how East and West differs right now. Pelicans have very similar record, and they are already finished, like they are proper done. I heard in Windy's pod that Pelicans chances of making post season is at 1% now... 76ers are graced for being in the East, but the problem, is that they aren't really showing signs of turning it around, no one still knows if Embiid becomes playable. Seriously, who thought that two brightest spots in Philly will be Yabusele and McCain?
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#5 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:01 pm

They'll likely get somwhere in the 7th-10th seed, I'm expecting more injuries but some favorable games for them as well. Finish somewhere around 40-42 maybe. Depends on teams like Nets who keep winning vs the West or Bulls who are somehow staying afloat, or the Hawks who could also turn around and "possibly do damage".
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#6 » by og15 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:04 pm

UcanUwill wrote:WHen they are 20 games under .500, I think thats where I would write them off. Seems crazy that it would need such a deep hole, but East is so bad, its games back thign as you have said, it only took Bucks two good weeks to get into home court advantage territory almost. Phillies hole is getting deeper, it is no longer comparable to Bucks, but they still within reach.

Wild how East and West differs right now. Pelicans have very similar record, and they are already finished, like they are proper done. I heard in Windy's pod that Pelicans chances of making post season is at 1% now... 76ers are graced for being in the East, but the problem, is that they aren't really showing signs of turning it around, no one still knows if Embiid becomes playable. Seriously, who thought that two brightest spots in Philly will be Yabusele and McCain?

Pelicans would need to have a 50 win pace starting from their next game to get to 42 wins. At the moment, 10th in the West is at 10-9, 43 win pace, and Sacramento and Minnesota are 11th and 12th. Considering Zion has no timetable and isn't close to return, the chances of them winning 61% of their games from now until the end of the season is, well, :lol:
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#7 » by UcanUwill » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:06 pm

og15 wrote:3-14 at the moment, so 17 games gone, 65 remaining.

Let's say they only get the main guys together for 50 games the rest of the season, and in the remaining 15 games, they go 5-10 (I'm being pessimistic about it to stretch how much of a hole they could be in), so 8-24 in those 32 games.

If they win the other 50 games at a 50 win pace, that would get them to 38 wins, which is a .463 win percentage.

Currently, .463 win percentage would be 9th and would have them in the play-in. I'm assuming as long as they can make the play-in, they are content, so I suppose anything that projects them around 38+ wins they would be content to stomach.


Do you think Nets will be sellers at the deadline? Feels like a team that should fall off at one point, either naturally or by selling some talent. Making East even worse. I think NETS FO doesn't care for being an 8th seed in this years play offs at all, they must be happy their guys look good, either for the future or for trade value, and they hit with head coach hire, so they will take victories there, but they need to get Ls on a schedule.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#8 » by ejftw » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:06 pm

When they fall 7+ back from a play-in spot. Being in the East has been their saving grace, but the way they are built, they just need a healthy playoff run, which, as a Clipper fan I know oh to well about hoping for.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#9 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:07 pm

I would guess they try and get their 3 guys on the court and see if they can put together a string of wins and if they can't they pull the plug. A few years ago the Heat were 11-30 at one point and finished 41-41 making the playoffs, that was before the play in too. In the East they still have time but it's getting dark and the fat lady is warming up.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#10 » by Sixers in 4 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:09 pm

og15 wrote:3-14 at the moment, so 17 games gone, 65 remaining.

Let's say they only get the main guys together for 50 games the rest of the season, and in the remaining 15 games, they go 5-10 (I'm being pessimistic about it to stretch how much of a hole they could be in), so 8-24 in those 32 games.

If they win the other 50 games at a 50 win pace, that would get them to 38 wins, which is a .463 win percentage.

Currently, .463 win percentage would be 9th and would have them in the play-in. I'm assuming as long as they can make the play-in, they are content, so I suppose anything that projects them around 38+ wins they would be content to stomach.


The 10th seed is in the playin too. Last year the 10th seed in the east had 36 wins but the east is terrible this year the 10th seed is only on pace for 33 wins to finish with 33 wins the sixers need to win 53 percent of their games moving forward.

It's not impossible by any means but that speaks more to the awfulness of the new format than anything. We have no business still being in the race but the math is still more than doable at this point.

If guys start missing more games and the teams below them start going on a winning streak than the math becomes harder but right now they are 4.5 games back with 62 games left.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#11 » by og15 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:16 pm

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og15 wrote:3-14 at the moment, so 17 games gone, 65 remaining.

Let's say they only get the main guys together for 50 games the rest of the season, and in the remaining 15 games, they go 5-10 (I'm being pessimistic about it to stretch how much of a hole they could be in), so 8-24 in those 32 games.

If they win the other 50 games at a 50 win pace, that would get them to 38 wins, which is a .463 win percentage.

Currently, .463 win percentage would be 9th and would have them in the play-in. I'm assuming as long as they can make the play-in, they are content, so I suppose anything that projects them around 38+ wins they would be content to stomach.


The 10th seed is in the playin too. Last year the 10th seed in the east had 36 wins but the east is terrible this year the 10th seed is only on pace for 33 wins to finish with 33 wins the sixers need to win 53 percent of their games moving forward.

It's not impossible by any means but that speaks more to the awfulness of the new format than anything. We have no business still being in the race but the math is still more than doable at this point.

If guys start missing more games and the teams below them start going on a winning streak than the math becomes harder but right now they are 4.5 games back with 62 games left.

Yea, I know, just saying that my rough projection could have them around what the 9th seed could be, and sure, the number could go lower if the East remains the same, as the 10th seed could be something like a 33 win team. Bar is definitely very low to be in the running for the playoffs in the East.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#12 » by Godymas » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:17 pm

6ers should really just bottom out this year, they owe their pick to OKC. It is top 6 protected. Get their stars healthy and make a run next year. Maybe fire Nick Nurse too.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#13 » by Sixers in 4 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:21 pm

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og15 wrote:3-14 at the moment, so 17 games gone, 65 remaining.

Let's say they only get the main guys together for 50 games the rest of the season, and in the remaining 15 games, they go 5-10 (I'm being pessimistic about it to stretch how much of a hole they could be in), so 8-24 in those 32 games.

If they win the other 50 games at a 50 win pace, that would get them to 38 wins, which is a .463 win percentage.

Currently, .463 win percentage would be 9th and would have them in the play-in. I'm assuming as long as they can make the play-in, they are content, so I suppose anything that projects them around 38+ wins they would be content to stomach.


The 10th seed is in the playin too. Last year the 10th seed in the east had 36 wins but the east is terrible this year the 10th seed is only on pace for 33 wins to finish with 33 wins the sixers need to win 53 percent of their games moving forward.

It's not impossible by any means but that speaks more to the awfulness of the new format than anything. We have no business still being in the race but the math is still more than doable at this point.

If guys start missing more games and the teams below them start going on a winning streak than the math becomes harder but right now they are 4.5 games back with 62 games left.

Yea, I know, just saying that my rough projection could have them around what the 9th seed could be, and sure, the number could go lower if the East remains the same, as the 10th seed could be something like a 33 win team. Bar is definitely very low to be in the running for the playoffs in the East.


This is nothing to brag about but I also expect the teams ahead them to be sellers. Morey and the FO have invested heavily in this roster I personally think it's more likely to double down and attempt to salvage the season to add to the roster rather than make a trade to breakup the 3.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#15 » by tamaraw08 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:24 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
og15 wrote:3-14 at the moment, so 17 games gone, 65 remaining.

Let's say they only get the main guys together for 50 games the rest of the season, and in the remaining 15 games, they go 5-10 (I'm being pessimistic about it to stretch how much of a hole they could be in), so 8-24 in those 32 games.

If they win the other 50 games at a 50 win pace, that would get them to 38 wins, which is a .463 win percentage.

Currently, .463 win percentage would be 9th and would have them in the play-in. I'm assuming as long as they can make the play-in, they are content, so I suppose anything that projects them around 38+ wins they would be content to stomach.


Do you think Nets will be sellers at the deadline? Feels like a team that should fall off at one point, either naturally or by selling some talent. Making East even worse. I think NETS FO doesn't care for being an 8th seed in this years play offs at all, they must be happy their guys look good, either for the future or for trade value, and they hit with head coach hire, so they will take victories there, but they need to get Ls on a schedule.


Nets just swept their West Coast trip beating the Kings, Warriors and Suns. :o
They have some fighters there, scrapping and not doing wild silly stuff like what Lamelo would do.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#16 » by Mavrelous » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:26 pm

I think around Christmas, Morey can calculate obvious probabilities and likely outcomes.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#17 » by tamaraw08 » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:28 pm

SickMother wrote:When it prolapses.


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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#18 » by bkkrh » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:42 pm

The question is for what exactly. The Sixer haven't beaten a single decent opponent since the process started in the Playoffs. The best team were the 6th seed Raptors and Barnes and VanVleet both missed parts of that series. So the likeliness of them beating the Celtics or Cavaliers (assuming things don't change) as a play in team seem to be close to zero.

So what would really be the point to make it to the Playfofs as a play in team? The goal clearly has to be to make it to at least the 6th seed,but at this point I doubt it already. Not so much from a catching up to the current 6th seed perspective, I just don't think the team will really gel and ever be healthy.

Embiid has played 4 games while not having a major injury as far as we know. He is out now again for 3 games. Paul George is out again for 3 games. Kyle Lowry will turn 39 this year and is also currently out for 4 games already. That's 3 injury prone starters, 2 of them at an age were most players retire. And their guard back ups besides McCain are soon to be 36 year old Eric Gordon and Reggie Jackson, who will turn 35 before the playoffs.

So when people talk about them catching up as soon as they are healthy, the question should actually be if they ever will be healthy. It's definitely not a good sign that 17 games in the season you have exactly one starter that has played every game of the season until now, while all other 4 already missed games due to injuries.
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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#19 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:44 pm

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Re: At what point does 76ers hole become too big? 

Post#20 » by MrGoat » Thu Nov 28, 2024 3:47 pm

They're in the East so definitely not yet
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