Where do you stand on tanking this season?

[Sixersftw]

I'm a creature of the tank, I live for the tank, I only understand the tank.

[76ciology]

I had a realization today.

Ask yourself this: which would we regret more?

Failing to chase a championship or failing to go all in tanking for Cooper Flagg?

Winning a championship just to prove that “the process” wasn’t a failure is pointless.

It’s taken over 10 years—a process no one would ever want to do it over again.

I would take winning a chip.
Da fuq?

Cooper Flagg may never be as good as Biid.

The process worked. It got us a MVP level talent. The poor decisions made afterward is what cost us actually winning it all. We went into the process because we had just used all of our assets on Bynum and we litterally had nothing to build with. If we have to process again, I wouldn't mind or be afraid of it because in an alternate world we basically be the Celtics with Embiid with just two alternate picks.

This process revisionist history doesn't work imo

Winning a chip is **** hard lol, one bad decision can pretty much end it...we made multiple. It is what it is.

Chasing a championship is not the same as actually winning one.

I don’t think we have a realistic shot at winning a title this year, even if both Joel and George are fully healthy.

This reminds me of the past arguments defending Ben Simmons, where people said he was “special” and an All-NBA talent. Those are mostly just labels and accounts for regular season performances. I’d rather have a top-tier star or even a low-tier superstar who is consistently available and doesn’t disappear in the most critical playoff moments, who is not hard to build a team around.

For me, the process should always be about winning a championship—not just being the most talented team. Talent alone doesn’t guarantee success unless the league starts handing out trophies based solely on roster strength.

[eyeatoma]

I had a realization today.

Ask yourself this: which would we regret more?

Failing to chase a championship or failing to go all in tanking for Cooper Flagg?

Winning a championship just to prove that “the process” wasn’t a failure is pointless.

It’s taken over 10 years—a process no one would ever want to do it over again.

I would take winning a chip.
Da fuq?

Cooper Flagg may never be as good as Biid.

The process worked. It got us a MVP level talent. The poor decisions made afterward is what cost us actually winning it all. We went into the process because we had just used all of our assets on Bynum and we litterally had nothing to build with. If we have to process again, I wouldn't mind or be afraid of it because in an alternate world we basically be the Celtics with Embiid with just two alternate picks.

This process revisionist history doesn't work imo

Winning a chip is **** hard lol, one bad decision can pretty much end it...we made multiple. It is what it is.

Chasing a championship is not the same as actually winning one.

I don’t think we have a realistic shot at winning a title this year, even if both Joel and George are fully healthy.

This reminds me of the past arguments defending Ben Simmons, where people said he was “special” and an All-NBA talent. I’d rather have a top-tier star or even a low-tier superstar who is consistently available and doesn’t disappear in the most critical playoff moments.

For me, the process should always be about winning a championship—not just being the most talented team. Talent alone doesn’t guarantee success unless the league starts handing out trophies based solely on roster strength.

I disagree, a 100% fully healthy Embiid is an MVP. We saw it last year. This team would be a top 2-3 team with both healthy.

[Foshan]

I’m only in for the tanking because I feel like we have an incredible opportunity to pull a Spurs move, and have one bad season to create a dynasty.
I shut down Embiid and George this year, obviously they are not okay. I trade guys who are not locked in for a contract next year (or were vet ring chasers) and play young long wings next to Maxey/Mccain.
Then next year we keep our pick and roll out a healthy Embiid/george, with a more mature McCain, a couple more developed young wings on the cheap, and be a best team for Robinsons’s declining years… I mean Embiid declining years.

[76ciology]

I’m only in for the tanking because I feel like we have an incredible opportunity to pull a Spurs move, and have one bad season to create a dynasty.
I shut down Embiid and George this year, obviously they are not okay. I trade guys who are not locked in for a contract next year (or were vet ring chasers) and play young long wings next to Maxey/Mccain.
Then next year we keep our pick and roll out a healthy Embiid/george, with a more mature McCain, a couple more developed young wings on the cheap, and be a best team for Robinsons’s declining years… I mean Embiid declining years.

It also makes their contracts less painful

[Jailblazers7]

It would bum me out to watch McCain & Maxey fight all season & be forced to eat so many Ls but I get the rationale for it. I would just want to make sure we are still running a real NBA offense to help their development.

[76ciology]

I would take winning a chip.
Da fuq?

Cooper Flagg may never be as good as Biid.

The process worked. It got us a MVP level talent. The poor decisions made afterward is what cost us actually winning it all. We went into the process because we had just used all of our assets on Bynum and we litterally had nothing to build with. If we have to process again, I wouldn't mind or be afraid of it because in an alternate world we basically be the Celtics with Embiid with just two alternate picks.

This process revisionist history doesn't work imo

Winning a chip is **** hard lol, one bad decision can pretty much end it...we made multiple. It is what it is.

Chasing a championship is not the same as actually winning one.

I don’t think we have a realistic shot at winning a title this year, even if both Joel and George are fully healthy.

This reminds me of the past arguments defending Ben Simmons, where people said he was “special” and an All-NBA talent. I’d rather have a top-tier star or even a low-tier superstar who is consistently available and doesn’t disappear in the most critical playoff moments.

For me, the process should always be about winning a championship—not just being the most talented team. Talent alone doesn’t guarantee success unless the league starts handing out trophies based solely on roster strength.

I disagree, a 100% fully healthy Embiid is an MVP. We saw it last year. This team would be a top 2-3 team with both healthy.

Building team chemistry takes time, especially for championship contention. Most title winning teams need at least a full season to develop knowing their tendencies by seeing different match-ups thrown to them. It’s rare for a group of mostly new players to come together and win it all in their first year.

Our only real shot was if we had an exceptional offseason, like a strong camp in the Bahamas, where the team could establish chemistry early. Starting the season with everyone on the same page would’ve been critical.

For example, in those offensive sets—like running weave actions—you’d expect seamless timing where players instinctively know when to cut backdoor or position themselves to receive the pass in sync with the ball handler’s expectations similar to how the Warriors is with Draymond and Steph can anticipate each other’s movements.

I think we’ve burned 25% of the offseason already. It’s very likely we dont have any time. Unless we just run Doc’s vanilla offense. A lot of simple PnR, but eventually it will caught up against the top teams.

[DCasey91]

I don't understand the reason to try and be competitive this season. For what? Lose in the first or second round. Great no pick and George and Embiid are worse for wear

Sh*t management on the pile of crap

Owner has to be a sissy. Just tell them straight up you guys are professionals start acting like one.

Club is bigger than an individual at least where I come from, but in the NBA idolisation goes too far.

It'll just be one more mistake after a series of dominoes throughout this whole time.

I personally want this from Embiid (25/12 DPOY guy) but that is literal wishful thinking. I see no other way for us to win the damn thing

What would suck the most if the pick got traded for some reason.

Anyway get Double O for cheap, settle in on the M&M show, get the top 6 pick and if Embiid/PG are healthy next year which I honestly dgaf about they are well old enough to know better

Then and only then we have actually have a decent shot to contend. At least we'd have the most horses in the stable.

And please for the love of God stop letting Morey eye off washed rockets or old fart players lmao.

[Eyeamok]

If Morey is truly the father of analytics then he knows what is at stake here. Be a medicore team at best, and give the pick to OKC. Or try to keep the pick and improve the team on the fly with McCain getting more experience and a top pick in the draft for next season. I don't see Morey making an emotional decision just to save face, so we become a play-in team. The writing is on the wall, he just has to do it (tank) in a way that Adam Silver does not come gunning for him. Because you know Silver is going to come gunning for him for the slightest infraction real or perceived. And if the media makes a story out of anything this team does Adam will be right on top of it.

Just took a look at the front page of Realgm. You have articles about the Nets not wanting to take back any long term contracts for any of their current players. The Bulls are ready to trade everyone except Coby White. The Pelicans saying the don't want to take a "Gap" year. It's almost like teams know this year's draft has a lot of potential and they want to start positioning themselves to get the best position in the lottery they can. Crazy right !

[elchengue20]

The process was a huge sucess, in 5 years we went from a perenial treadmil team to a team with an MVP level talent entering his prime, another young All-Star and DPOY candidate, an arsenal of assets (including a #1 pick) and plenty of capspace to build our roster. We were the team with the most tools to build a dynasty for the next decade, that was the whole point.

It's a shame it got derailed by bringing incompetent FO that made stupid decision after stupid decisión and blew everthing away.

Also i think one lesson we should learn it's you don't have to fall in love with the homegrown talent. The Biid/Ben duo was flawed for many reasons and we insisted too much on making it work.

[76ciology]

If Morey is truly the father of analytics then he knows what is at stake here. Be a medicore team at best, and give the pick to OKC. Or try to keep the pick and improve the team on the fly with McCain getting more experience and a top pick in the draft for next season. I don't see Morey making an emotional decision just to save face, so we become a play-in team. The writing is on the wall, he just has to do it (tank) in a way that Adam Silver does not come gunning for him. Because you know Silver is going to come gunning for him for the slightest infraction real or perceived. And if the media makes a story out of anything this team does Adam will be right on top of it.

Just took a look at the front page of Realgm. You have articles about the Nets not wanting to take back any long term contracts for any of their current player, The Bulls ready to trade everyone except Coby White. The Pelicans saying the don't want to take a "Gap" year. It's almost like teams know this year's draft has a lot of potential and they want to start positioning themselves to get the best position in the lottery they can. Crazy right !

We’re the envy of the lottery teams. Even posters from these lottery teams are lurking on our board

[Jhawk03]

I want to tank because it's the "right" thing to do given the circumstances and lack of information on everything.

However... If we by some miracle get the first pick, this forum or Realgm as a whole will become so toxic that I don't know how any one of us would be able to post here afterwards.

[Sixercise]

Here's a good motivation for wanting to tank this year: https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/76ers_terrible_start_is_great_news_for_thunder_as_old_trade_comes_back_to_haunt_philly/s1_13132_41321140

[Kobblehead]

I haven't been watching games, so I'm fine with them losing games and positioning themselves for a top 6 pick.

[Jailblazers7]

I think this all might be a moot point anyway & we’re just straight up bad. No need to tank because we’re not good enough to win games lol.

I think Embiid will be lucky to play 25 games this year even if he wants to compete. Paul George is looking washed & probably needs an extended absence to heal his knee.

[stormi]

I'm pro, especially in this draft class that looks franchise altering, but it won't happen and I won't allow myself to get my hopes up.

[mjkvol]

Definitely pro tank, but it has to be done properly. Shut Embiid down and I would dangle George just in case some team gets desperate enough to believe he's the missing piece, but chances are he's still here next season. I would move everyone on the roster except for M&M, Yabu, and Martin. Even getting a couple of 2nd rounders for this draft would be a good thing.

It's going to be exceedingly difficult to lose at a pace that gets us to a safe spot to keep our 1st, and you can bet that the POS Silver will be watching like a hawk.

[SixersSince82]

I would prefer they trade for their pick back (or more protections on it) and then let the chips fall where they may.

Option 2 would be tank hard... but only a one year tank, probably shop PG, not any sort of firesale, multi-season process 2.0. though. (it may be time for that eventually, but now isn't it).

I don't think you shut Joel Embiid down either. He isn't recovering from an injury. He needs to learn how to play through chronic pain. Simply allow the trial and error nature of that process to play out for a season. He's on pace to play 20 games this year, if half of those he's on a big minutes restriction it really shouldn't hinder our ability to tank that much, imo. Maybe 20 even becomes 15 if we shut him down the last month of the season to ensure the tank. But any information gleaned on how his knee reacts to various treatments while playing games is valuable.

PG is the X factor at this point. If he has a stretch of health and rounds into form we should move him.

[Eyeamok]

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[Eyeamok]

I would prefer they trade for their pick back (or more protections on it) and then let the chips fall where they may.

Option 2 would be tank hard... but only a one year tank, probably shop PG, not any sort of firesale, multi-season process 2.0. though. (it may be time for that eventually, but now isn't it).

I don't think you shut Joel Embiid down either. He isn't recovering from an injury. He needs to learn how to play through chronic pain. Simply allow the trial and error nature of that process to play out for a season. He's on pace to play 20 games this year, if half of those he's on a big minutes restriction it really shouldn't hinder our ability to tank that much, imo. Maybe 20 even becomes 15 if we shut him down the last month of the season to ensure the tank. But any information gleaned on how his knee reacts to various treatments while playing games is valuable.

PG is the X factor at this point. If he has a stretch of health and rounds into form we should move him.

Could you expound on the first part. Trade for their pick back or more protections on it. What would that look like?