G18: Sixers @ Pistons 11/30 7:00pm ET

[HotelVitale]

This Pistons franchise isn’t serious. They’re just hoping that they’d luck into that Pistons teams in the 2000s that won the championship

You focus on offense first, then you build defense later.

tbf Cade is out

although I have my questions about him too

He’s been proving most of the questions wrong this year tbf. And the team is fully premised on him (spamming pnr specifically), we could all see how clunky the initiation was without him. Ivey is much better as a 2nd/3rd guy who can cook when he’s hot.

This was probably Detroits worst game this season, too, no need to judge the whole current roster on it.

[HotelVitale]

because I am a messy bitch

don't think Council likes McCain at all..

doesn't look his way at all been that way since summer league

Maybe but when have you ever seen RCIV ever look anyone’s way?

[76ciology]

Paul George plays as if the team has already decided to tank the season, and he’s only on the court to fulfill his contract obligations. His main objective each game seems to be avoiding injury.

Which he failed at again today, as he was pulled.

Sorry, main objective was to tank.

[Jailblazers7]

Maxey has his juice back. I only caught parts of the game but he’s putting a ton of pressure on the rim & the shot is starting to fall. I like using Oubre/Council as baseline cutters who can catch a lob when we run Maxey PnRs.

[Sixteen]

Good win. Still pro tank but it was nice to see this teams hard work finally get rewarded with a win.

[the_process]

This team is going to win 32 games and give the 10th pick to the Thunder, aren't they?

[76ciology]

This team is going to win 32 games and give the 10th pick to the Thunder, aren't they?

Not if we can play against the Detroit Pistons every night

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Well, Detroit sucks without Cade. Season highs from Council and KJ helped secure the win. Council especially needs these type of minutes on a nightly basis. KJ...I keep saying it. He can play, he belongs in this league. I'd like to see him out there as much as possible. Swipe some of Oubres minutes if we have to. These young guys need to play.

[M2J]

Well, Detroit sucks without Cade. Season highs from Council and KJ helped secure the win. Council especially needs these type of minutes on a nightly basis. KJ...I keep saying it. He can play, he belongs in this league. I'd like to see him out there as much as possible. Swipe some of Oubres minutes if we have to. These young guys need to play.

I've been loving KJ this year for this team. I won't say he needs to play as much as possible, but he should be THE guy that gets solid backup minutes when they play small ball center. Probably as the secondary rim protector for Drummond too. I like his defense, appreciate how he tries to finish strong and his athleticism from dunker spot and in transition.

I don't really know where he fits when they're fully healthy but I know I'd like him as back up 4 primarily. They have guys on the wings like him and George and Caleb and Oubre that can defend all perimeter positions. I'd rather them lean in on those guys and stop using the old guys all together. Maxey and McCain and Joel and PG take care of playmaking

[M2J]

Maxey has his juice back. I only caught parts of the game but he’s putting a ton of pressure on the rim & the shot is starting to fall. I like using Oubre/Council as baseline cutters who can catch a lob when we run Maxey PnRs.

So fun to watch him when he gets going, and seems that having a relatively legit balanced offensive lineup has allowed him to get back to himself a bit. His shot started falling after getting legit off the catch opportunities... One he created with Yabu of a screen and reset to get an open shot when Yabu drove after Maxey hit him off the trap. But also nice enough that he can be a solid playmaker creating pace and buckets for others.

I know there was no PG or Joel, but I wonder WTF Nurse was doing at training camp. I'm not saying to start Jared at the beginning of the season, but he was kinda buried after what was supposedly a solid camp. They needed offense and there should've been more exploration there....I don't think Maxey and him ever played together. Yabu was given lesser minutes exclusively as backup 5. KJ, Ricky were buried primarily, and too many old guys with poor interior defense to help them out. Nurse is clearly a coach that has a plan and wants guys to operate within it to maintain continuity, he was still operating the team as if Joel is there to build around him. From system to lineups.

[Kova]

Another good effort, this time rewarded with a W. We're slowly getting more balance, and everybody is starting to play within their role. Still a lot of work to do.

[76ciology]

We probably just can’t pair Oubre and Caleb. Their 2 man lineup is the second most used and has a -14 NetRtg, while Oubre and Drummond are the third most used with -19.6 NetRtg. My eye test also backs this up.

[Jailblazers7]

We absolutely need to give Bona consistent minutes & let him get some NBA seasoning. Activity, effort, athleticism, and rim protection are all things this team badly needs. Also nice to have a big who can run the floor hard with Maxey.

[ProcessDoctor]

We probably just can’t pair Oubre and Caleb. Their 2 man lineup is the second most used and has a -14 NetRtg, while Oubre and Drummond are the third most used with -19.6 NetRtg. My eye test also backs this up.

So what you're saying is we should play Oubre and Caleb together

[Iscull]

We absolutely need to give Bona consistent minutes & let him get some NBA seasoning. Activity, effort, athleticism, and rim protection are all things this team badly needs. Also nice to have a big who can run the floor hard with Maxey.

In the regular season, all of our younger/energy guys like Bona, Council, Martin, etc. should be getting minutes

[the_process]

This team is going to win 32 games and give the 10th pick to the Thunder, aren't they?

Not if we can play against the Detroit Pistons every night

The Pistons with Cade already whooped the Sixers once.

My point being this team is still bad enough to miss the playoffs, but won't fully tank so they give a mid lotto pick away to OKC.

Also, while I'm glad Maxey is getting numbers... is no one else concerned about his efficiency falling off a cliff? We just assume it's going to come back if Jo plays? 28 pts on 24 shots and 2 FTAs. Not good.

[M2J]

This team is going to win 32 games and give the 10th pick to the Thunder, aren't they?

Not if we can play against the Detroit Pistons every night

The Pistons with Cade already whooped the Sixers once.

My point being this team is still bad enough to miss the playoffs, but won't fully tank so they give a mid lotto pick away to OKC.

Also, while I'm glad Maxey is getting numbers... is no one else concerned about his efficiency falling off a cliff? We just assume it's going to come back if Jo plays? 28 pts on 24 shots and 2 FTAs. Not good.

He was 46% overall, 50% from 3 with double digit 3pt attempts after at 3/11 or 12 start. 1 more make and he's 50%. Fast from falling off a cliff.

6 assists 2 lturnovers.

That's pretty efficient... Especially When they never give him foul calls at the rim.

[M2J]

We probably just can’t pair Oubre and Caleb. Their 2 man lineup is the second most used and has a -14 NetRtg, while Oubre and Drummond are the third most used with -19.6 NetRtg. My eye test also backs this up.

So what you're saying is we should play Oubre and Caleb together

Truth be told, I think more information is needed on the Oubre and Martin pairing. They were set to start with 3 gravity guys and that's never happened. They started the year with Drummond, a 40 year old Lowry and Maxey. Terrible spacing.

The 1 game they started when adequate spacing was Brooklyn when they started with Maxey and Jared and Yabu.... Oubre +21 to and Martin +25 led the team in that category with only Maxey being close at +19.


I think it is safe to say that Oubre/Martin/Drummond is tricky as hell.

I think it's important because I think this team needs to push forward with athleticism and defense rather than the shooting the 3 old guys give you, because Drummond and Yabu can't have teams just getting free runs at the rim on them.

[the_process]

Not if we can play against the Detroit Pistons every night

The Pistons with Cade already whooped the Sixers once.

My point being this team is still bad enough to miss the playoffs, but won't fully tank so they give a mid lotto pick away to OKC.

Also, while I'm glad Maxey is getting numbers... is no one else concerned about his efficiency falling off a cliff? We just assume it's going to come back if Jo plays? 28 pts on 24 shots and 2 FTAs. Not good.

He was 46% overall, 50% from 3 with double digit 3pt attempts after at 3/11 or 12 start. 1 more make and he's 50%. Fast from falling off a cliff.

6 assists 2 lturnovers.

That's pretty efficient... Especially When they never give him foul calls at the rim.

7:6 points to shots ratio isn't going to cut it.

[NearingZero]

The Pistons with Cade already whooped the Sixers once.

My point being this team is still bad enough to miss the playoffs, but won't fully tank so they give a mid lotto pick away to OKC.

Also, while I'm glad Maxey is getting numbers... is no one else concerned about his efficiency falling off a cliff? We just assume it's going to come back if Jo plays? 28 pts on 24 shots and 2 FTAs. Not good.

He was 46% overall, 50% from 3 with double digit 3pt attempts after at 3/11 or 12 start. 1 more make and he's 50%. Fast from falling off a cliff.

6 assists 2 lturnovers.

That's pretty efficient... Especially When they never give him foul calls at the rim.

7:6 points to shots ratio isn't going to cut it.

I'm not concerned in the sense that I don't think it means much of anything yet with the rest of the team so dysfunctional and Maxey still getting his rhythm back.

I am concerned that a whole year of this much dysfunction could mess with his habits/tendencies because he's forced to be a higher usage guy than he maybe should be. I was hesitant before the season for him to become "the guy", taking on too much offensive load. Now being forced into it with little offensive support is not a good position.