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Melton
18
13%
Wiggins
34
25%
Podz
15
11%
Kuminga
29
21%
Moody
7
5%
Loon
4
3%
Hield
4
3%
Tjd
26
19%
 
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#241 » by CDM_Stats » Sun Dec 1, 2024 4:29 am

The season will look a lot better when its Curry/Hield/Wiggins/Dray/Looney

If that ever happens :dontknow:

The next month is going to be rough... no more cakewalks. Adjusted defense ranking has been dropping a lot past 4 games and its only going to get worse
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#242 » by cpower » Sun Dec 1, 2024 4:30 am

CDM_Stats wrote:The season will look a lot better when its Curry/Hield/Wiggins/Dray/Looney

If that ever happens :dontknow:

The next month is going to be rough... no more cakewalks. Adjusted defense ranking has been dropping a lot past 4 games and its only going to get worse

dont even look at the offense now, we are trending to bottom 10 in a few weeks
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#243 » by Onus » Sun Dec 1, 2024 4:32 am

CDM_Stats wrote:The season will look a lot better when its Curry/Hield/Wiggins/Dray/Looney

If that ever happens :dontknow:

The next month is going to be rough... no more cakewalks. Adjusted defense ranking has been dropping a lot past 4 games and its only going to get worse

It’s the offense that is terrible. Were the worst ft shooting team, worst at making layups and have the most 5+ minutes without scoring.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#244 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Dec 1, 2024 5:04 am

Onus wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:The season will look a lot better when its Curry/Hield/Wiggins/Dray/Looney

If that ever happens :dontknow:

The next month is going to be rough... no more cakewalks. Adjusted defense ranking has been dropping a lot past 4 games and its only going to get worse

It’s the offense that is terrible. Were the worst ft shooting team, worst at making layups and have the most 5+ minutes without scoring.



With the starters, we are playing 2 vs 5 on offense. With the bench, it's 0 vs 5 with jk and heild struggling.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#245 » by superunknown » Sun Dec 1, 2024 5:15 am

who starts? hopefully someone new after 15/12.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#246 » by Onus » Sun Dec 1, 2024 5:20 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:The season will look a lot better when its Curry/Hield/Wiggins/Dray/Looney

If that ever happens :dontknow:

The next month is going to be rough... no more cakewalks. Adjusted defense ranking has been dropping a lot past 4 games and its only going to get worse

It’s the offense that is terrible. Were the worst ft shooting team, worst at making layups and have the most 5+ minutes without scoring.



With the starters, we are playing 2 vs 5 on offense. With the bench, it's 0 vs 5 with jk and heild struggling.

We don’t really have any 2 way players. Wiggins is 1. And everyone else is at best a 1 way player.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#247 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Dec 1, 2024 5:25 am

Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:It’s the offense that is terrible. Were the worst ft shooting team, worst at making layups and have the most 5+ minutes without scoring.



With the starters, we are playing 2 vs 5 on offense. With the bench, it's 0 vs 5 with jk and heild struggling.

We don’t really have any 2 way players. Wiggins is 1. And everyone else is at best a 1 way player.


Moody is potentially another, but he's struggling right now. Kerr is doing everything he can to get podz going. It might be fine to give moody that leash and let him pay their his rough recent play. He be the closest to replicate melton. If not, just throw heild in there and get the offense going early (if loon is the center).
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#248 » by DonaldSanders » Sun Dec 1, 2024 5:29 am

Curry
Podz
Wiggins
Dray
Looney

2022 identity with Podz in the Klay role, worse on offense but better on defense/hustle plays.

On the trade block w/ Melton's expiring:
#1 Kuminga
#2 Lindy Waters, I put him as a throw in when I'm in the trade machine whenever possible to keep him away from Steve
#3 GPII -- has some nice moments but can't hit the broadside of a barn with the ball, and seems to have lost some athleticism.

I'd replace GPII with Kyle if the other team preferred that, but a lot of these rebuilding teams prefer expirings. Moses could be thrown in, as much as I'd be sad, at least he'd get more of a chance somewhere else.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#249 » by Onus » Sun Dec 1, 2024 5:42 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:

With the starters, we are playing 2 vs 5 on offense. With the bench, it's 0 vs 5 with jk and heild struggling.

We don’t really have any 2 way players. Wiggins is 1. And everyone else is at best a 1 way player.


Moody is potentially another, but he's struggling right now. Kerr is doing everything he can to get podz going. It might be fine to give moody that leash and let him pay their his rough recent play. He be the closest to replicate melton. If not, just throw heild in there and get the offense going early (if loon is the center).

Idk why you’re trying to fix the starters. The starters were neutral to positive more positive with looney than tjd but the bench was terrible. The bench really being when Steph sits. There’s no play maker other than Kyle. It’s just ISOs and hopefully buddy gets open. Wiggins can’t save the bench because there’s not enough spacing and he’s not a playmaker. They desperately need another playmaker. It will help having waters and buddy out there. Add Wiggins at the 4 and a real backup pg and they should be able to tread water. Then we can focus on the starters. But the bench needs to be fixed first. They’re getting killed.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#250 » by Onus » Sun Dec 1, 2024 5:46 am

DonaldSanders wrote:Curry
Podz
Wiggins
Dray
Looney

2022 identity with Podz in the Klay role, worse on offense but better on defense/hustle plays.

On the trade block w/ Melton's expiring:
#1 Kuminga
#2 Lindy Waters, I put him as a throw in when I'm in the trade machine whenever possible to keep him away from Steve
#3 GPII -- has some nice moments but can't hit the broadside of a barn with the ball, and seems to have lost some athleticism.

I'd replace GPII with Kyle if the other team preferred that, but a lot of these rebuilding teams prefer expirings. Moses could be thrown in, as much as I'd be sad, at least he'd get more of a chance somewhere else.

. Gp2 and Kyle will most likely need to be in any trade just for salary purposes. Them jk and melton get us close to 40m so that we can get multiple pieces from a team.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#251 » by whatisacenter » Thu Dec 5, 2024 4:40 pm

No Steph and Dray tonight and Wiggins is questionable....

Call up Reece Beekman?

Start

Podz
Hield
Moody
Kuminga
Looney

Bench

Pat Spencer
Lindy Waters
GP2
SloMo
TJD
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#252 » by vagelis » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:12 am

vagelis wrote:I thought about it with clear mind and I think that it will not be wise to drop Kuminga so fast from the starting lineup.
And I think Kerr will not do it.

He needs to get a chance before Warriors come to a conclusion.

Maybe it is a bad period for him.


I would keep the same lineup for atleast 5 more games.
Warriors are 2-1. Nothing rushes them to make changes.

The only change I would make right now is to start Looney.

Curry
Wiggins
Kuminga
Green
Looney

for the next 5 games and then come to conclusions.
3 games are just very few to judge players.
Kuminga changed position this season and maybe needs some games to adjust (maybe not)



From 28 of October 2024
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#253 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:33 am

vagelis wrote:
vagelis wrote:I thought about it with clear mind and I think that it will not be wise to drop Kuminga so fast from the starting lineup.
And I think Kerr will not do it.

He needs to get a chance before Warriors come to a conclusion.

Maybe it is a bad period for him.


I would keep the same lineup for atleast 5 more games.
Warriors are 2-1. Nothing rushes them to make changes.

The only change I would make right now is to start Looney.

Curry
Wiggins
Kuminga
Green
Looney

for the next 5 games and then come to conclusions.
3 games are just very few to judge players.
Kuminga changed position this season and maybe needs some games to adjust (maybe not)



From 28 of October 2024


And nothing has changed since then. Jk still can't play SF. He's a face up power forward.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#254 » by vvoland » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:46 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
vagelis wrote:
vagelis wrote:I thought about it with clear mind and I think that it will not be wise to drop Kuminga so fast from the starting lineup.
And I think Kerr will not do it.

He needs to get a chance before Warriors come to a conclusion.

Maybe it is a bad period for him.


I would keep the same lineup for atleast 5 more games.
Warriors are 2-1. Nothing rushes them to make changes.

The only change I would make right now is to start Looney.

Curry
Wiggins
Kuminga
Green
Looney

for the next 5 games and then come to conclusions.
3 games are just very few to judge players.
Kuminga changed position this season and maybe needs some games to adjust (maybe not)



From 28 of October 2024


And nothing has changed since then. Jk still can't play SF. He's a face up power forward.


Tonight was a step in the right direction. He looks much better on the court next to wigs+ loon than wigs+tjd.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#255 » by vagelis » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:04 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
vagelis wrote:
vagelis wrote:I thought about it with clear mind and I think that it will not be wise to drop Kuminga so fast from the starting lineup.
And I think Kerr will not do it.

He needs to get a chance before Warriors come to a conclusion.

Maybe it is a bad period for him.


I would keep the same lineup for atleast 5 more games.
Warriors are 2-1. Nothing rushes them to make changes.

The only change I would make right now is to start Looney.

Curry
Wiggins
Kuminga
Green
Looney

for the next 5 games and then come to conclusions.
3 games are just very few to judge players.
Kuminga changed position this season and maybe needs some games to adjust (maybe not)



From 28 of October 2024


And nothing has changed since then. Jk still can't play SF. He's a face up power forward.


Kuminga plays sf in offense.
He takes the ball from outside and drives or shoots.
He does not have a post up game to be considered a pf.
He is named as pf in lineups because somebody has to be named pf.
He plays sf.

What changes is who guards him.
If pfs or sfs guard him.
He plays better when pfs guard him.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#256 » by Onus » Fri Dec 6, 2024 2:51 pm

vagelis wrote:
What changes is who guards him.
If pfs or sfs guard him.
He plays better when pfs guard him.

He plays better when guards guard him. Look at his shots a majority of them are when it's FVV, Reed, Holiday or JGreen.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#257 » by CDM_Stats » Fri Dec 6, 2024 4:04 pm

Onus wrote:
vagelis wrote:
What changes is who guards him.
If pfs or sfs guard him.
He plays better when pfs guard him.

He plays better when guards guard him. Look at his shots a majority of them are when it's FVV, Reed, Holiday or JGreen.


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Spam him with PnRs and make guards guard him then

But our old Wiggins stan friend here really needs to update his 'skills by position' cards.. its been a long time since PF players were defined by their post moves
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#258 » by Onus » Fri Dec 6, 2024 4:35 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:
Onus wrote:
vagelis wrote:
What changes is who guards him.
If pfs or sfs guard him.
He plays better when pfs guard him.

He plays better when guards guard him. Look at his shots a majority of them are when it's FVV, Reed, Holiday or JGreen.


Image

Spam him with PnRs and make guards guard him then


That’s what we did. We were hunting fvv.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#259 » by vvoland » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:29 pm

Onus wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:
Onus wrote:He plays better when guards guard him. Look at his shots a majority of them are when it's FVV, Reed, Holiday or JGreen.


Image

Spam him with PnRs and make guards guard him then


That’s what we did. We were hunting fvv.


If we're going to abandon the motion offense and play iso ball in the last 5 minutes of games (which is what we seem to resort to), JK has to play and hunt the smaller guards just like they use Curry to hunt the plodding bigs. The 2nd unit absolutely has to be a match-up hunting, half-court offense. I don't think they have the ball handlers or intuitive players to run the offense the starters run.
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Re: Who starts? 

Post#260 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:28 am

The more I spit out scenarios where we acquire Schroder and then try and put a depth/minutes chart out afterwards, the more I'm wondering if Podz should be anything more than a 10mpg player with the ability to earn more per game?

Curry (20) / Schroder (28) / Podz*
Hield (24) / Curry (10) / Podz (14)* / Lindy*
Wiggins (28) / GP2 (10)* / Moody (10)*
Dray (20) / JK (28) / SloMo
Looney (24) / SloMo (16) / Dray (8) / TJD*

Curry (30), Schroder (28), Wiggins (28), Dray (28), JK (28), Looney (24), and Hield (24), SloMo (16) would be the locked in 8 man rotation, with Podz/GP2/Moody/Lindy/TJD duking it out for the remaining 34 minutes based on matchups and who's doing better lately. Maybe Podz can take a few minutes from Schroder where he'd get only 24 and Podz would bump up to 18, but this is my endgame, trying to speak it into existence. T-minus 4 days before it becomes possible

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