Fake Trade Thread #6

[JustBuzzin]

any other teams with two all stars on the roster shutting things down before the new year?

Philly

That's proving SWedd's point, they're doing the opposite.

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They like us are dealing with injuries. They have looked terrible for most of the season. If they don't start winning games they will be in tank mode regardless.

[yosemiteben]

Philly

That's proving SWedd's point, they're doing the opposite.

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They like us are dealing with injuries. They have looked terrible for most of the season. If they don't start winning games they will be in tank mode regardless.

But they aren't shutting things down, which was SWedd's point.

[JustBuzzin]

That's proving SWedd's point, they're doing the opposite.

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They like us are dealing with injuries. They have looked terrible for most of the season. If they don't start winning games they will be in tank mode regardless.

But they aren't shutting things down, which was SWedd's point.

Okay you win

[JMAC3]

I am ready to sell low on Miles

Miles + Micic for Lonzo + Jalen Smith

Not a fan of trading our 3rd best scorer for a guy that has played 5 games in the last 1000 days. Lonzo is a risk and I might consider it but we already can’t score the ball.

Josh Green and Micic would be my preferred route just because I’m unsure how I feel about Josh Green contract long term. Plus we are already thin at the big forward spots, trading smalls for another small would be better for team balance.

[Rich4114]

I would take a flier on Ball because if he's healthy he fills a major need (on ball defense, 3pt shooter, ball handler, playmaker) but given he's got injury concerns (major) and is on an expiring, why would we give up Miles for him? I think some combination of Micic + Cody or Micic + Nick + NSJ would work plus free up more roster spots.

[JMAC3]

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[JustBuzzin]

Utah is trying to trade their vets before the deadline.

I would love to get John Collins. Can play pf/c and should be cheap.

[JMAC3]

Utah is trying to trade their vets before the deadline.

I would love to get John Collins. Can play pf/c and should be cheap.

He is another guy that makes a lot of money so trying to match salaries is really hard.

[Bassman]

Utah is trying to trade their vets before the deadline.

I would love to get John Collins. Can play pf/c and should be cheap.

He is another guy that makes a lot of money so trying to match salaries is really hard.

Yeah I really want Collins but we’d have to include Miles in that deal and he can’t be dealt until ??? (Not sure when). If we could trade for Collins, does that prevent us from other deals for an additional significant player? I’d think so due to salaries. Hopefully we’d get Collins or another significant player upgrade BEFORE any trade of Cody and Micic for Lonzo is done (as a way to keep Melo happy). if not Collins, what other players of significance rumored to be available could we possibly aquire to equip our young guns with some quality help?

> What would you think about Cam Johnson from the Nets? I think he’d be a fine pairing with Melo and Miller. Kinda pricey but would give us a legit 3rd scorer.
> Kessler is being dangled by the Jazz. He will want big money in time, but either he or Williams will need to get paid. Would be nice to have a choice! Plus he’d sure help us now. Would allow us to eventually deal Richards or include him in the deal.

[Diop]

Utah is trying to trade their vets before the deadline.

I would love to get John Collins. Can play pf/c and should be cheap.

when was the last time Ainge did a deal cheaply?

[JMAC3]

Utah is trying to trade their vets before the deadline.

I would love to get John Collins. Can play pf/c and should be cheap.

when was the last time Ainge did a deal cheaply?

John Collins best role right now is a stretch 5, but he is a pretty poor defender.
30% Def EPM.
So yeah it would be cool to have some versatility but with Mark, Nick and Diabate all seemingly getting close to being healthy idk if Collins is that great of a fit.


Same with Sexton, he is basically another Tre Mann out there.
13% Def EPM

[Rich4114]

Utah is trying to trade their vets before the deadline.

I would love to get John Collins. Can play pf/c and should be cheap.

when was the last time Ainge did a deal cheaply?

John Collins best role right now is a stretch 5, but he is a pretty poor defender.
30% Def EPM.
So yeah it would be cool to have some versatility but with Mark, Nick and Diabate all seemingly getting close to being healthy idk if Collins is that great of a fit.


Same with Sexton, he is basically another Tre Mann out there.
13% Def EPM

I don't really want any of the Jazz guys, though Collins is intriguing he also takes games off and like you said, not a good defender. I would like to see us get a 4 who can convert in the paint and not be a defensive liability though.

[JMAC3]

Assuming we end up with the 8th pick in this draft just as a neutral position. We pickup options for Martin, Richards in the off-season and decline Micic option at 8 million and decline Jefferies at 3 million. We will be around 132 million in allocated space. The cap is projected 154 million.

Tre Mann cap hold is 14.7 million. So until Mann signs we only project with few million and that will likely be taken up by the first round draft picks cap hold (6 million). All this to say we do not project with any type of cap space next summer unless we are planning to not bring back Mann, Martin and Richards.

If you decline options on all three we could have around 28 million or so in cap space.

Seems like we might have some tough decisions on those 3 guys at the trade deadline.

[JMAC3]

I would offer that Dallas 2027 first for Cam Johnson, he is under contract for 2.5 more years and fits our jack a billion threes model. This would be a Deni Avdija type of trade, we would still have a lot of future picks we can be aggressive with in the near future if we wanted to chase a star but in the short-term I think he would be a good fit.

[Rich4114]

Would love to add a 3pt shooting F like Cam Johnson. Fits perfectly in the SL and lets us move Miles back to SF though he can be interchangeable with Miller/Johnson/Miles all playing "Wing" and offering a variety of inside scoring/3pt shooting across the board.

[fatlever]

I would offer that Dallas 2027 first for Cam Johnson, he is under contract for 2.5 more years and fits our jack a billion threes model. This would be a Deni Avdija type of trade, we would still have a lot of future picks we can be aggressive with in the near future if we wanted to chase a star but in the short-term I think he would be a good fit.

would do that in a nanosecond, which makes me think nets wouldnt entertain

[JMAC3]

I would offer that Dallas 2027 first for Cam Johnson, he is under contract for 2.5 more years and fits our jack a billion threes model. This would be a Deni Avdija type of trade, we would still have a lot of future picks we can be aggressive with in the near future if we wanted to chase a star but in the short-term I think he would be a good fit.

would do that in a nanosecond, which makes me think nets wouldnt entertain

They are rumored to want to 2 firsts, but I also think that means they don't want some contenders projected 28th overall first or a lottery protected first. The fact that Dallas pick is further out (reflippable) and that it could be the 5th overall pick if for some reason they had a season that just fell apart ala the Sixers I think it carries a decent amount of value in trades.

[JMAC3]

Would love to add a 3pt shooting F like Cam Johnson. Fits perfectly in the SL and lets us move Miles back to SF though he can be interchangeable with Miller/Johnson/Miles all playing "Wing" and offering a variety of inside scoring/3pt shooting across the board.

Yeah I think we could start all three of Miller, Cam and Miles together. Or if you wanted to start Josh Green still then Cam would be a huge boost to our bench scoring. Just gives a lot of versatility because he can really shuffle in at 2-4. The more big wings that can shoot the better Miller, Miles, Salaun, Grant, Cam would be a pretty awesome interchangeable group for the next 2.5 years.

[fatlever]

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no idea what this is about. lol. the salaries cant work w/out melo or miles... miles cant be traded til mid jan. so, at this