Who do you think should be the next Head Coach?

[The KnicksFix]

I know coaches can be traded for players, but can they get traded for other coaches?

In an ideal world I'd trade Thibs for a young mind who understands the modern game like Jordi Fernandez.

We are a quarter into the season and Jordi's lottery Nets are a meager 1.5 games behind a Knicks team who has 3 all star caliber players on their roster.

I hate the Nets, but they compete for their coach on a nightly basis while the Knicks do not always perform for Thibs.

I thought exactly the same thing, Jordi has that team playing hard, and he has an actually identity on that roster. Kenny Atkinson did the same with the nets years ago, and is doing it again with the cavs now. I’m. Not even sure what tone exactly Thibs has set for the team, or what identity of a team he wants.

[NiceLikeChrist]

The longer thibs is here the more of our window he wastes. We have like 3-5 years. Let’s get him outta here asap so a new coach can come in and get their feet wet for half the season before hitting their stride next season

Thibs is on a treadmill and he stumbles and falls down every couple of minutes. We need someone who makes real progress

[Adelheid]

THIBS is bonafide crazy...team this loaded and still using 6-man rotation

absolute madness

[NoDopeOnSundays]

In his 5 seasons here, we have defended the 3 well in one of those seasons, every other season we've been average to bad and with the uptick in league wide 3 point attempts this year it's not helping things.

Opponents 3PM per game / opponents 3P%

2024-2025 - 28th / 27th
2023-2024 - 10th/17th
2022-2023 - 27th/12th
2021-2022 - 19th / 6th
2020-2021 - 10th / 1st

And the most telling stat over the 5 years is this one above all, attempts.


2024-2025 - 22nd
2023-2024 - 12th
2022-2023 - 26th
2021-2022 - 24th
2020-2021 - 21st


Teams are hunting the 3 point shot against us because of how his defense prioritizes the paint, that is why teams over the years that shot well from 3 would kill us in regular season matchups or in the playoffs. It's why the Hawks, despite us being the number 1 team in defending the 3-percentage wise that year ended up killing us from three, because they figured out they could get clean looks.


In a league taking and making more and more threes, we have a coach that is fine with giving up that shot. We have 1 season in which we were better than league average at limiting the 3 point shot in terms of attempts. A lot of our defensive problems stem from us not switching on defense, its asking Mikal to fight over a screen when teams today will switch that and have their center defend in space with help. It's asking KAT to defend the rim when he's better at switching onto a guard and containing them, just think about the Jazz game and how many times Walker Kessler got caught on Jalen, with Jalen trying every move in the book to shake him, now ask yourself how many times you remember KAT switching onto a guard/wing.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Thought you said you weren’t going to respond yet here you are
Here’s your diagnosis clown
https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/new-york-knicks-miles-mcbride-progressing-return-injury

First Paragraph:
”New York Knicks guard Miles McBride was ruled out for Saturday's game against the Utah Jazz, due to left knee Patella Femoral Syndrome, otherwise known as 'runner's knee.' McBride has missed the last five games due to left knee issues and illness.”

By the way, runner’s knee is a lehman’s term for chondromalacia, aka wearing down of cartilage.
Deuce never had issues playing heavy minutes, yet here we are, and guess what, he’s only 24, athletes don’t get those issues unless you have overuse. Talking out my ass? No dummy, heavy minutes causes guys to be out, read a book, or simply, just google it. Not a coincidence KAT is out again tonight, get a grip. No clue what I’m talking about is laughable, your location says Germany so what do you know LMAO

Also, heavy minutes and overuse is not the sole reason I think Thibs should be gone, its also because of lack of creativity on the offensive end, and a stubborn mentality when it comes to the defensive end with an unwillingness to change defensive schemes. Injury/ overuse is just the tip of the iceberg.

no need to get personal and call me a clown.

you dont even understand, what you are doing right now. you tried to win an argument by lying and saying deuce played 40 minutes and was overused, which clearly is not true. now you telling me deuce got a runners knee and he didnt even play 30 minutes one single time. if anything you are proving my point, that injuries can happen to anyone.

you dont follow the knicks for 30 years and you clearly are not a doctor. stop making a fool out of yourself

also this:

Lock this up.

I’ll PM you my name, you can google me, and after that I’ll send you my business card, where i can recommend to you a few of my colleagues who are neurologists, psychiatrists and psychologists because I’ve told you already, STOP RESPONDING TO THE THREAD. YOU’VE ALREADY SAID YOUR PART, SO MOVE ALONE AND POST ELSEWHERE.
If you weren’t’ here during the Oakley, starks, harp, mason, x man, ewing, Hubert Davis, Charles smith to Chris duhon, David lee, Jamal Crawford years, then don’t talk about what you don’t know clown. I just provided you an article, that showed the diagnosis, and you then called me a liar

Furthermore, OG, josh, and Mikal all played 40 minutes tonight, while we were already down double digits, clown
I don’t see you responding in other threads, such as the PG thread, or around the NBA, you’re definitely in a different time zone, so please, do yourself a favor and navigate yourself to another thread before responding to this. And for the last time, I know you keep beating a dead horse about the minutes, and trying to push that agenda, when I’ve told you countless times, the reason I want a new head coach is not only due to minutes distribution, but because of a lack of offensive creativity, and stubbornness to change defensive schemes, game after game, year after year. We have a 5-out offense that he CANNOT COACH. He only coaches a specific type of scheme predicated on a low post player like Randle, or a big setting a pick for the PG to get to the paint (Boozer/ Rose , or ihart/ Brunson) and then kicking out for spot up 3’s. We will never win a ring under him, if you were truly a Knick fan you would see Many agree with me in game threads, and post game threads in regards to Thibs’ lack on both ends of the court.

If you want the thread locked why do you keep responding?
You’ve said your piece about the minutes, and I understand reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, but minutes distribution IS NOT THE ONLY REASON I WANT HIM GONE, so kindly please stop responding

Do you even watch the games? Serious question, because if you did you would see that KAT can’t play the 5 on defense and we when we play teams with jumbo wings, he can’t defend the pick and roll, so why doesn’t thibs make the adjustment that we all see and pair him with a 5 like Hukporti and genuinely give Huk some burn. It’s one thing to be stubborn, its another thing to actively cost your team games as the coach because of your lack of willingness to acclimate.

Wait. Are you yelling at me? I saw a bunch of letters and words....had nothing to do with me, for some reason I'm quoted in this. Are you ok? You seem mad about something. I had nothing to do with it.

[The KnicksFix]

no need to get personal and call me a clown.

you dont even understand, what you are doing right now. you tried to win an argument by lying and saying deuce played 40 minutes and was overused, which clearly is not true. now you telling me deuce got a runners knee and he didnt even play 30 minutes one single time. if anything you are proving my point, that injuries can happen to anyone.

you dont follow the knicks for 30 years and you clearly are not a doctor. stop making a fool out of yourself

also this:

I’ll PM you my name, you can google me, and after that I’ll send you my business card, where i can recommend to you a few of my colleagues who are neurologists, psychiatrists and psychologists because I’ve told you already, STOP RESPONDING TO THE THREAD. YOU’VE ALREADY SAID YOUR PART, SO MOVE ALONE AND POST ELSEWHERE.
If you weren’t’ here during the Oakley, starks, harp, mason, x man, ewing, Hubert Davis, Charles smith to Chris duhon, David lee, Jamal Crawford years, then don’t talk about what you don’t know clown. I just provided you an article, that showed the diagnosis, and you then called me a liar

Furthermore, OG, josh, and Mikal all played 40 minutes tonight, while we were already down double digits, clown
I don’t see you responding in other threads, such as the PG thread, or around the NBA, you’re definitely in a different time zone, so please, do yourself a favor and navigate yourself to another thread before responding to this. And for the last time, I know you keep beating a dead horse about the minutes, and trying to push that agenda, when I’ve told you countless times, the reason I want a new head coach is not only due to minutes distribution, but because of a lack of offensive creativity, and stubbornness to change defensive schemes, game after game, year after year. We have a 5-out offense that he CANNOT COACH. He only coaches a specific type of scheme predicated on a low post player like Randle, or a big setting a pick for the PG to get to the paint (Boozer/ Rose , or ihart/ Brunson) and then kicking out for spot up 3’s. We will never win a ring under him, if you were truly a Knick fan you would see Many agree with me in game threads, and post game threads in regards to Thibs’ lack on both ends of the court.

If you want the thread locked why do you keep responding?
You’ve said your piece about the minutes, and I understand reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, but minutes distribution IS NOT THE ONLY REASON I WANT HIM GONE, so kindly please stop responding

Do you even watch the games? Serious question, because if you did you would see that KAT can’t play the 5 on defense and we when we play teams with jumbo wings, he can’t defend the pick and roll, so why doesn’t thibs make the adjustment that we all see and pair him with a 5 like Hukporti and genuinely give Huk some burn. It’s one thing to be stubborn, its another thing to actively cost your team games as the coach because of your lack of willingness to acclimate.

Wait. Are you yelling at me? I saw a bunch of letters and words....had nothing to do with me, for some reason I'm quoted in this. Are you ok? You seem mad about something. I had nothing to do with it.

No man not you Bluntson you the homey bro, we good, going thru a tough time now and your posts have made it possible to forget the stresses of the outside world and banter about the Knicks. I appreciate you for that fam
By the way bro happy thanksgiving, hope you spent it with fam and had good food.
I’m just getting into it with this other fella from Germany thats making me the minutes police for no reason

[Jalen Bluntson]

I’ll PM you my name, you can google me, and after that I’ll send you my business card, where i can recommend to you a few of my colleagues who are neurologists, psychiatrists and psychologists because I’ve told you already, STOP RESPONDING TO THE THREAD. YOU’VE ALREADY SAID YOUR PART, SO MOVE ALONE AND POST ELSEWHERE.
If you weren’t’ here during the Oakley, starks, harp, mason, x man, ewing, Hubert Davis, Charles smith to Chris duhon, David lee, Jamal Crawford years, then don’t talk about what you don’t know clown. I just provided you an article, that showed the diagnosis, and you then called me a liar

Furthermore, OG, josh, and Mikal all played 40 minutes tonight, while we were already down double digits, clown
I don’t see you responding in other threads, such as the PG thread, or around the NBA, you’re definitely in a different time zone, so please, do yourself a favor and navigate yourself to another thread before responding to this. And for the last time, I know you keep beating a dead horse about the minutes, and trying to push that agenda, when I’ve told you countless times, the reason I want a new head coach is not only due to minutes distribution, but because of a lack of offensive creativity, and stubbornness to change defensive schemes, game after game, year after year. We have a 5-out offense that he CANNOT COACH. He only coaches a specific type of scheme predicated on a low post player like Randle, or a big setting a pick for the PG to get to the paint (Boozer/ Rose , or ihart/ Brunson) and then kicking out for spot up 3’s. We will never win a ring under him, if you were truly a Knick fan you would see Many agree with me in game threads, and post game threads in regards to Thibs’ lack on both ends of the court.

If you want the thread locked why do you keep responding?
You’ve said your piece about the minutes, and I understand reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, but minutes distribution IS NOT THE ONLY REASON I WANT HIM GONE, so kindly please stop responding

Do you even watch the games? Serious question, because if you did you would see that KAT can’t play the 5 on defense and we when we play teams with jumbo wings, he can’t defend the pick and roll, so why doesn’t thibs make the adjustment that we all see and pair him with a 5 like Hukporti and genuinely give Huk some burn. It’s one thing to be stubborn, its another thing to actively cost your team games as the coach because of your lack of willingness to acclimate.

Wait. Are you yelling at me? I saw a bunch of letters and words....had nothing to do with me, for some reason I'm quoted in this. Are you ok? You seem mad about something. I had nothing to do with it.

No man not you Bluntson you the homey bro, we good, going thru a tough time now and your posts have made it possible to forget the stresses of the outside world and banter about the Knicks. I appreciate you for that fam
By the way bro happy thanksgiving, hope you spent it with fam and had good food.
I’m just getting into it with this other fella from Germany thats making me the minutes police for no reason

I see it now. I was hammered trying to read that post. The words were moving all over the place. I had too much fun yesterday with my daughter and her boyfriend's family. Drinking bloody Mary's for breakfast and eating ham and lamb and drinking beer and doing pickleback shots all day. Drank the kids under the table!

[thebuzzardman]

In his 5 seasons here, we have defended the 3 well in one of those seasons, every other season we've been average to bad and with the uptick in league wide 3 point attempts this year it's not helping things.

Opponents 3PM per game / opponents 3P%

2024-2025 - 28th / 27th
2023-2024 - 10th/17th
2022-2023 - 27th/12th
2021-2022 - 19th / 6th
2020-2021 - 10th / 1st

And the most telling stat over the 5 years is this one above all, attempts.


2024-2025 - 22nd
2023-2024 - 12th
2022-2023 - 26th
2021-2022 - 24th
2020-2021 - 21st


Teams are hunting the 3 point shot against us because of how his defense prioritizes the paint, that is why teams over the years that shot well from 3 would kill us in regular season matchups or in the playoffs. It's why the Hawks, despite us being the number 1 team in defending the 3-percentage wise that year ended up killing us from three, because they figured out they could get clean looks.


In a league taking and making more and more threes, we have a coach that is fine with giving up that shot. We have 1 season in which we were better than league average at limiting the 3 point shot in terms of attempts. A lot of our defensive problems stem from us not switching on defense, its asking Mikal to fight over a screen when teams today will switch that and have their center defend in space with help. It's asking KAT to defend the rim when he's better at switching onto a guard and containing them, just think about the Jazz game and how many times Walker Kessler got caught on Jalen, with Jalen trying every move in the book to shake him, now ask yourself how many times you remember KAT switching onto a guard/wing.

Trade Brunson for Elfrid Payton

[knicks94]

In his 5 seasons here, we have defended the 3 well in one of those seasons, every other season we've been average to bad and with the uptick in league wide 3 point attempts this year it's not helping things.

Opponents 3PM per game / opponents 3P%

2024-2025 - 28th / 27th
2023-2024 - 10th/17th
2022-2023 - 27th/12th
2021-2022 - 19th / 6th
2020-2021 - 10th / 1st

And the most telling stat over the 5 years is this one above all, attempts.


2024-2025 - 22nd
2023-2024 - 12th
2022-2023 - 26th
2021-2022 - 24th
2020-2021 - 21st


Teams are hunting the 3 point shot against us because of how his defense prioritizes the paint, that is why teams over the years that shot well from 3 would kill us in regular season matchups or in the playoffs. It's why the Hawks, despite us being the number 1 team in defending the 3-percentage wise that year ended up killing us from three, because they figured out they could get clean looks.


In a league taking and making more and more threes, we have a coach that is fine with giving up that shot. We have 1 season in which we were better than league average at limiting the 3 point shot in terms of attempts. A lot of our defensive problems stem from us not switching on defense, its asking Mikal to fight over a screen when teams today will switch that and have their center defend in space with help. It's asking KAT to defend the rim when he's better at switching onto a guard and containing them, just think about the Jazz game and how many times Walker Kessler got caught on Jalen, with Jalen trying every move in the book to shake him, now ask yourself how many times you remember KAT switching onto a guard/wing.

Trade Brunson for Elfrid Payton

I am greatly amazed at how Carmelo Anthony being a top 75 all time NBA player had difficulty finding a team that would take him, but an absolute scrub like Elfrid Payton has littlt to no issue extending his NBA career.

[omerome]

In his 5 seasons here, we have defended the 3 well in one of those seasons, every other season we've been average to bad and with the uptick in league wide 3 point attempts this year it's not helping things.

Opponents 3PM per game / opponents 3P%

2024-2025 - 28th / 27th
2023-2024 - 10th/17th
2022-2023 - 27th/12th
2021-2022 - 19th / 6th
2020-2021 - 10th / 1st

And the most telling stat over the 5 years is this one above all, attempts.


2024-2025 - 22nd
2023-2024 - 12th
2022-2023 - 26th
2021-2022 - 24th
2020-2021 - 21st


Teams are hunting the 3 point shot against us because of how his defense prioritizes the paint, that is why teams over the years that shot well from 3 would kill us in regular season matchups or in the playoffs. It's why the Hawks, despite us being the number 1 team in defending the 3-percentage wise that year ended up killing us from three, because they figured out they could get clean looks.


In a league taking and making more and more threes, we have a coach that is fine with giving up that shot. We have 1 season in which we were better than league average at limiting the 3 point shot in terms of attempts. A lot of our defensive problems stem from us not switching on defense, its asking Mikal to fight over a screen when teams today will switch that and have their center defend in space with help. It's asking KAT to defend the rim when he's better at switching onto a guard and containing them, just think about the Jazz game and how many times Walker Kessler got caught on Jalen, with Jalen trying every move in the book to shake him, now ask yourself how many times you remember KAT switching onto a guard/wing.

Trade Brunson for Elfrid Payton

I am greatly amazed at how Carmelo Anthony being a top 75 all time NBA player had difficulty finding a team that would take him, but an absolute scrub like Elfrid Payton has littlt to no issue extending his NBA career.

The key word here is pride. Melo is too proud to accept a lesser role on a team, where someone like Elfrid probably just wants an opportunity.

Melo said so himself about when the Knicks were interested in him coming back.

[gavran]

In his 5 seasons here, we have defended the 3 well in one of those seasons, every other season we've been average to bad and with the uptick in league wide 3 point attempts this year it's not helping things.

Opponents 3PM per game / opponents 3P%

2024-2025 - 28th / 27th
2023-2024 - 10th/17th
2022-2023 - 27th/12th
2021-2022 - 19th / 6th
2020-2021 - 10th / 1st

And the most telling stat over the 5 years is this one above all, attempts.


2024-2025 - 22nd
2023-2024 - 12th
2022-2023 - 26th
2021-2022 - 24th
2020-2021 - 21st


Teams are hunting the 3 point shot against us because of how his defense prioritizes the paint, that is why teams over the years that shot well from 3 would kill us in regular season matchups or in the playoffs. It's why the Hawks, despite us being the number 1 team in defending the 3-percentage wise that year ended up killing us from three, because they figured out they could get clean looks.


In a league taking and making more and more threes, we have a coach that is fine with giving up that shot. We have 1 season in which we were better than league average at limiting the 3 point shot in terms of attempts. A lot of our defensive problems stem from us not switching on defense, its asking Mikal to fight over a screen when teams today will switch that and have their center defend in space with help. It's asking KAT to defend the rim when he's better at switching onto a guard and containing them, just think about the Jazz game and how many times Walker Kessler got caught on Jalen, with Jalen trying every move in the book to shake him, now ask yourself how many times you remember KAT switching onto a guard/wing.

Trade Brunson for Elfrid Payton

I am greatly amazed at how Carmelo Anthony being a top 75 all time NBA player had difficulty finding a team that would take him, but an absolute scrub like Elfrid Payton has littlt to no issue extending his NBA career.

If being out of the league for 2 whole seasons before this contract is "little to no issues", then who has a hard time?

[KnixinSix]

Ive said this previously but it applies to this thread too....

That final judgement probably happens when both our rim protectors come back. Because Thibodeaus system has shown elite level defensive abilty when he has an elite rim protector and some strong defensive wings. Both are critical pieces of the Thibs formula.

Last year we kind of were up and down until we got OG then absolutely took off. This year we lost IHart, don’t have Mitch and then lost Precious in preseason too. Thats a huge hit to the rim protection aspect to his defense.

You can argue at this point that other coaches like the Celts coach, Houstons coach maybe even the Nets coach etc would get more out of this squad and might be right too.

However Thibs with an elite C and the strong defensive wings has proven more often than not can field an absolutely dominant defense in todays NBA.

[HarthorneWingo]

Thibs emptied the bench with almost 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter only up by 30 points.

Wake up Tom!

[aggo]

itll be someone straight from mazulla's system.

[Fat Kat]

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[Gravy]

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Only the 2nd greatest offense of all time? Wow Thibs is much worse than we thought, we need Johnnie Bryant to fix this

[FrozenEnvelope]

Can the minutes police explain how teams like New Orleans keep getting injured when none of their players play over 33 mpg? Or Memphis who have had a ton of injuries this season and nobody over there plays more then 30 mpg?

Is that Thibs fault too?

And what should be the limit for players? 30? 32? Should they sit out games too? What is the magic formula to prevent injuries? And lastly, I know there is a huge outcry when Thibs leaves players in during blowouts. How much should we be up and how much time is left before we should send in the bench? 20 points with 5 minutes left? 20 points with 10 minutes left?

[The KnicksFix]

Can the minutes police explain how teams like New Orleans keep getting injured when none of their players play over 33 mpg? Or Memphis who have had a ton of injuries this season and nobody over there plays more then 30 mpg?

Is that Thibs fault too?

And what should be the limit for players? 30? 32? Should they sit out games too? What is the magic formula to prevent injuries? And lastly, I know there is a huge outcry when Thibs leaves players in during blowouts. How much should we be up and how much time is left before we should send in the bench? 20 points with 5 minutes left? 20 points with 10 minutes left?

Should Mikal have played 46 minutes tonight? General board consensus was that he shouldn’t have tonight. And thats the problem I have with him, his minutes distribution be a lil crazy bro.

[The KnicksFix]

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Only the 2nd greatest offense of all time? Wow Thibs is much worse than we thought, we need Johnnie Bryant to fix this

2nd is the 1st loser
GIVE ME FIRST

[Jalen Bluntson]

There is no reason to talk about the next HC. There are valid concerns and criticisms about Thibs but, unless he has another team fall apart before the playoffs roll around, we should expect him to be around for a few more years. Fingers crossed.