2024 49ers Season

[CrimsonCrew]

If there's a chance of signing a hot, up and coming assistant like Ben Johnson, they should do it.

Likely he will sign somewhere else.

Instead they will go down with the ship.

Make no mistake, Shanahan will make more mistakes in the draft. Team won't contend for a couple more seasons, until they've gotten rid of the big contracts on players well past their peak.

Even then it relies on them getting several Pro Bowl players in the next couple of drafts.

Wouldn't the hope in signing a guy like Johnson be that he could turn into Shanahan? I wouldn't make that move at this point. I have some pretty significant questions about Shanahan - when we aren't dominant, we've been really bad; and even when dominant, we haven't sealed the deal - but it's pretty tough to find an upgrade.

[wco81]

If there's a chance of signing a hot, up and coming assistant like Ben Johnson, they should do it.

Likely he will sign somewhere else.

Instead they will go down with the ship.

Make no mistake, Shanahan will make more mistakes in the draft. Team won't contend for a couple more seasons, until they've gotten rid of the big contracts on players well past their peak.

Even then it relies on them getting several Pro Bowl players in the next couple of drafts.

Wouldn't the hope in signing a guy like Johnson be that he could turn into Shanahan? I wouldn't make that move at this point. I have some pretty significant questions about Shanahan - when we aren't dominant, we've been really bad; and even when dominant, we haven't sealed the deal - but it's pretty tough to find an upgrade.

Rex Ryan said Johnson will be the next Bill Walsh.

We'll see, but I rather see a younger, more hungry up and coming coach.

We've pretty much seen the best of Shanahan and it isn't good enough.

[thesack12]

If there's a chance of signing a hot, up and coming assistant like Ben Johnson, they should do it.

Likely he will sign somewhere else.

Instead they will go down with the ship.

Make no mistake, Shanahan will make more mistakes in the draft. Team won't contend for a couple more seasons, until they've gotten rid of the big contracts on players well past their peak.

Even then it relies on them getting several Pro Bowl players in the next couple of drafts.

Of course he will.

Please show me an example of a team that doesn't make mistakes in the draft.... I'll wait

[wco81]

If there's a chance of signing a hot, up and coming assistant like Ben Johnson, they should do it.

Likely he will sign somewhere else.

Instead they will go down with the ship.

Make no mistake, Shanahan will make more mistakes in the draft. Team won't contend for a couple more seasons, until they've gotten rid of the big contracts on players well past their peak.

Even then it relies on them getting several Pro Bowl players in the next couple of drafts.

Of course he will.

Please show me an example of a team that doesn't make mistakes in the draft.... I'll wait

I DGAF what other teams do in their drafts. This is about the 49ers past and future mistakes.

But if you want to talk about other teams who've done better and built up their roster well through draft picks, then the 49ers should be hiring front office personnel from teams like the Lions and Eagles, eventually to have them take over.

[49er4life1979]

If there's a chance of signing a hot, up and coming assistant like Ben Johnson, they should do it.

Likely he will sign somewhere else.

Instead they will go down with the ship.

Make no mistake, Shanahan will make more mistakes in the draft. Team won't contend for a couple more seasons, until they've gotten rid of the big contracts on players well past their peak.

Even then it relies on them getting several Pro Bowl players in the next couple of drafts.

Of course he will.

Please show me an example of a team that doesn't make mistakes in the draft.... I'll wait

I DGAF what other teams do in their drafts. This is about the 49ers past and future mistakes.

But if you want to talk about other teams who've done better and built up their roster well through draft picks, then the 49ers should be hiring front office personnel from teams like the Lions and Eagles, eventually to have them take over.

The 49ers have drafted well overall. Have there been misses? Of course. But since 2017 we've connected on Kittle, DJ Jones, Warner, Bosa, Deebo, Greenlaw, Aiyuk, Lenoir, Hufanga, Brock, and the 2024 draft class is looking very good so far. Not to mention numerous undrafted free agents like Breida, Jeff Wilson, Jordan Mason, Azeez Al Shaair, Kevin Givens, Emmanuel Moseley, Kendrick Bourne.

[Pattersonca65]

Of course he will.

Please show me an example of a team that doesn't make mistakes in the draft.... I'll wait

I DGAF what other teams do in their drafts. This is about the 49ers past and future mistakes.

But if you want to talk about other teams who've done better and built up their roster well through draft picks, then the 49ers should be hiring front office personnel from teams like the Lions and Eagles, eventually to have them take over.

The 49ers have drafted well overall. Have there been misses? Of course. But since 2017 we've connected on Kittle, DJ Jones, Warner, Bosa, Deebo, Greenlaw, Aiyuk, Lenoir, Hufanga, Brock, and the 2024 draft class is looking very good so far. Not to mention numerous undrafted free agents like Breida, Jeff Wilson, Jordan Mason, Azeez Al Shaair, Kevin Givens, Emmanuel Moseley, Kendrick Bourne.

The 49ers have definitely found some later round gems in the draft but have also made some bad decisions. For me, a mixed bag. Drafting a running back in the third round two consecutive years was a big head scratcher along with some of the other selections given the glaring weakness in other areas of the roster. The 2024 draft was promising. The 2022 draft had Purdy as a steal at the end but the rest of that draft was dud. Moving forward, the 49ers have less room for error if they want to stay in contention for a title. They have some aging and expensive vets that will probably no longer be on the team a couple of years from now. They need to improve the oline and bring in some Dline help. It can't all be addressed through free agency.

[49er4life1979]

I DGAF what other teams do in their drafts. This is about the 49ers past and future mistakes.

But if you want to talk about other teams who've done better and built up their roster well through draft picks, then the 49ers should be hiring front office personnel from teams like the Lions and Eagles, eventually to have them take over.

The 49ers have drafted well overall. Have there been misses? Of course. But since 2017 we've connected on Kittle, DJ Jones, Warner, Bosa, Deebo, Greenlaw, Aiyuk, Lenoir, Hufanga, Brock, and the 2024 draft class is looking very good so far. Not to mention numerous undrafted free agents like Breida, Jeff Wilson, Jordan Mason, Azeez Al Shaair, Kevin Givens, Emmanuel Moseley, Kendrick Bourne.

The 49ers have definitely found some later round gems in the draft but have also made some bad decisions. For me, a mixed bag. Drafting a running back in the third round two consecutive years was a big head scratcher along with some of the other selections given the glaring weakness in other areas of the roster. The 2024 draft was promising. The 2022 draft had Purdy as a steal at the end but the rest of that draft was dud. Moving forward, the 49ers have less room for error if they want to stay in contention for a title. They have some aging and expensive vets that will probably no longer be on the team a couple of years from now. They need to improve the oline and bring in some Dline help. It can't all be addressed through free agency.

Speaking of the 2022 draft, Jordan Mason was an undrafted rookie for us that year. So him and Brock make that draft..Totally agree we never should have drafted RBs in the 3rd round like we did in 2021 and 2022. Horrible. Same with Joe Williams in 2017 4th round...But Guerendo is looking good so finally one to atone for past mistakes. We will be drafting higher in 2025 so need another home run.

[thesack12]

If there's a chance of signing a hot, up and coming assistant like Ben Johnson, they should do it.

Likely he will sign somewhere else.

Instead they will go down with the ship.

Make no mistake, Shanahan will make more mistakes in the draft. Team won't contend for a couple more seasons, until they've gotten rid of the big contracts on players well past their peak.

Even then it relies on them getting several Pro Bowl players in the next couple of drafts.

Of course he will.

Please show me an example of a team that doesn't make mistakes in the draft.... I'll wait

I DGAF what other teams do in their drafts. This is about the 49ers past and future mistakes.

But if you want to talk about other teams who've done better and built up their roster well through draft picks, then the 49ers should be hiring front office personnel from teams like the Lions and Eagles, eventually to have them take over.

Ahhh Ok Gotcha, you want hold the 9ers brass to a standard of perfection.

Why judge them on a curve based on their peers' performance, because perfection is demanded.

What exactly have the Lions and the current Eagles' regime done that the 49ers have not?

BTW the 49ers were the Lions, before these Lions were the Lions. Also, apparently you aren't about that life, but I'm going to pump the brakes on crowning the Lions. The haven't done anything yet.

[thesack12]

McCaffrey AND Jordan Mason both placed on IR.

Woof. It just continues to get worse.

[thesack12]

I know they are far from mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, but the season is effectively over.

Its time to shelve Purdy and let him heal that shoulder up.

The focus of the season should now be shifted from trying to win games, to prioritizing the development of the young guys.

[thesack12]

Wow man, just read that Trent Williams recently lost twin babies. So, so sad

That coupled with Ward tragically losing his young daughter, really provides some serious perspective. We are all supremely disappointed with how this season has gone, but at the end of the day football isn't really important in the grand scheme of life.

Pearsall getting shot earlier this season, reflects that as well.

T's & P's to the Williams' and Ward family.

[clyde21]

Wow man, just read that Trent Williams recently lost twin babies. So, so sad

That coupled with Ward tragically losing his young daughter, really provides some serious perspective. We are all supremely disappointed with how this season has gone, but at the end of the day football isn't really important in the grand scheme of life.

Pearsall getting shot earlier this season, reflects that as well.

T's & P's to the Williams' and Ward family.

brutal and tragic man, RIP.

this really is a season from hell, wtf is going on? i'm not even about football...multiple players losing their children, people getting shot in the chest, career-changing injuries.

[Pattersonca65]

McCaffrey AND Jordan Mason both placed on IR.

Woof. It just continues to get worse.

This is the kind of season that you wish you could just hit the fast forward button and get it over quickly. The one silver lining will be with the 49ers most likely out of the playoffs I won't quite be so glued to the television which frees up time for other things.

[wco81]

Of course he will.

Please show me an example of a team that doesn't make mistakes in the draft.... I'll wait

I DGAF what other teams do in their drafts. This is about the 49ers past and future mistakes.

But if you want to talk about other teams who've done better and built up their roster well through draft picks, then the 49ers should be hiring front office personnel from teams like the Lions and Eagles, eventually to have them take over.

Ahhh Ok Gotcha, you want hold the 9ers brass to a standard of perfection.

Why judge them on a curve based on their peers' performance, because perfection is demanded.

What exactly have the Lions and the current Eagles' regime done that the 49ers have not?

BTW the 49ers were the Lions, before these Lions were the Lions. Also, apparently you aren't about that life, but I'm going to pump the brakes on crowning the Lions. The haven't done anything yet.

Lions may not win it all. But they won 3 games in 2021. Also 3 games in 2019 and 5 games in 2020.

So the cupboard was completely bare and in 3 seasons they've built a SB contender.

I'd say they've have pretty good drafts the last 3-4 seasons -- Sewell, St Brown, Hutchinson, Jameson Williams, Gibbs, LaPorta, all Pro Bowl level players except maybe Williams.

In the same drafts, maybe the 49ers have Purdy, Aiyuk and maybe Lenoir and Hufanga may have hit Pro Bowl levels.

Eagles probably have better drafts as well, Hurts, Devonta Smith, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Landon Dickerson.

[thesack12]

I DGAF what other teams do in their drafts. This is about the 49ers past and future mistakes.

But if you want to talk about other teams who've done better and built up their roster well through draft picks, then the 49ers should be hiring front office personnel from teams like the Lions and Eagles, eventually to have them take over.

Ahhh Ok Gotcha, you want hold the 9ers brass to a standard of perfection.

Why judge them on a curve based on their peers' performance, because perfection is demanded.

What exactly have the Lions and the current Eagles' regime done that the 49ers have not?

BTW the 49ers were the Lions, before these Lions were the Lions. Also, apparently you aren't about that life, but I'm going to pump the brakes on crowning the Lions. The haven't done anything yet.

Lions may not win it all. But they won 3 games in 2021. Also 3 games in 2019 and 5 games in 2020.

So the cupboard was completely bare and in 3 seasons they've built a SB contender.

I'd say they've have pretty good drafts the last 3-4 seasons -- Sewell, St Brown, Hutchinson, Jameson Williams, Gibbs, LaPorta, all Pro Bowl level players except maybe Williams.

In the same drafts, maybe the 49ers have Purdy, Aiyuk and maybe Lenoir and Hufanga may have hit Pro Bowl levels.

Eagles probably have better drafts as well, Hurts, Devonta Smith, Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Landon Dickerson.

9ers were 2-14 the season before Kyle and 5-11 the season before that.

Kyle built a legit super bowl contender in 3 seasons.

Like I said, the 49ers were the Lions before the Lions were the Lions.

Have no idea why you are impressed by Detroit, and completely devalue what Kyle and the 9ers did.

We'll see how Detroit fares this season. Also remains to be seen what kind of staying power they have when they start drafting at the bottom of the draft, and when they have to start paying their core guys.

[wco81]

Shanahan inherited players like Buckner and Armstead, both first round picks.

In any event, recent drafts are way more relevant now.

Of course the drafts were hurt by that fateful trade, giving away 3 first rounders for Lance.

If Purdy didn't turn out to be decent, that trade should have been reason enough to at least strip his personnel powers. In fact they still should, bring in someone new, not necessarily to take over right way but eventually set him up to take the top job.

[thesack12]

Shanahan inherited players like Buckner and Armstead, both first round picks.

In any event, recent drafts are way more relevant now.

Of course the drafts were hurt by that fateful trade, giving away 3 first rounders for Lance.

If Purdy didn't turn out to be decent, that trade should have been reason enough to at least strip his personnel powers. In fact they still should, bring in someone new, not necessarily to take over right way but eventually set him up to take the top job.

Ok so, we're going to acknowledge how important Purdy is to the equation, while simultaneously failing to give Kyle any credit for finding and developing him.

Stop being short sighted by focusing on the mistakes, and disregarding the collective. One of the primary reasons why you think Kyle isn't good enough is mostly because of the talent on the roster and the 9ers haven't gotten over the hump. Yet, you are failing to realize that Kyle played a huge role in engineering the roster. You are trying to have your cake and eat it too.

[clyde21]

im not concerned about the FO finding talent (although our drafting is been weird, great in the mid rounds, not so great higher up in the draft)...i'm just concerned about the last of general discipline and focus, and Kyle seemingly completely ignoring the STs for multiple years now.

[Jikkle]

If there's a chance of signing a hot, up and coming assistant like Ben Johnson, they should do it.

Likely he will sign somewhere else.

Instead they will go down with the ship.

Make no mistake, Shanahan will make more mistakes in the draft. Team won't contend for a couple more seasons, until they've gotten rid of the big contracts on players well past their peak.

Even then it relies on them getting several Pro Bowl players in the next couple of drafts.

Wouldn't the hope in signing a guy like Johnson be that he could turn into Shanahan? I wouldn't make that move at this point. I have some pretty significant questions about Shanahan - when we aren't dominant, we've been really bad; and even when dominant, we haven't sealed the deal - but it's pretty tough to find an upgrade.

Rex Ryan said Johnson will be the next Bill Walsh.

We'll see, but I rather see a younger, more hungry up and coming coach.

We've pretty much seen the best of Shanahan and it isn't good enough.

My only concern with Johnson is he reportedly didn't interview well with the Seahawks or Commanders last year.

There may be nothing to it but the NFL graveyard of head coaches is full of guys who were great coordinators not great head coaches.

[Pattersonca65]

Shanahan inherited players like Buckner and Armstead, both first round picks.

In any event, recent drafts are way more relevant now.

Of course the drafts were hurt by that fateful trade, giving away 3 first rounders for Lance.

If Purdy didn't turn out to be decent, that trade should have been reason enough to at least strip his personnel powers. In fact they still should, bring in someone new, not necessarily to take over right way but eventually set him up to take the top job.

Buckner was a great player, Armstead not so much. He was a good player but not an elite one and spent so much time injured. When Shanahan came on board this team had one of the worst rosters in football and had been one of the most dysfunctional organizations in football. Firing Baalke was a good start but Shanahan/Lynch did a good job turning this thing around and rebuilding the roster. Whether they can maintain long-term success beyond one window is another story. Only a small number of teams have been successful at doing this in the modern football era. One year removed from a Super Bowl it is unlikely Shanahan is going anywhere. It just rarely happens a coach is fired so soon. He is going to have at least one more year to try and right the ship. If next season looks like this season then his seat might turn warm.