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Quentin Grimes Situation 

Post#1 » by arkuo » Mon Dec 2, 2024 9:37 am

The Quentin Grimes situation has the potential to lead to a Jalen Brunson type dilemma in the offseason with Grimes not signing an extension.

But I doubt Grimes has a stage father who requires employment like Rick Brunson, so there's a silver lining.

Grimes is playing for a bigger contract that's why his numbers are up. You guys think it's smart to trade him before the TDL than letting him walk in the summer?
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Post#2 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 1:29 pm

arkuo wrote:The Quentin Grimes situation has the potential to lead to a Jalen Brunson type dilemma in the offseason with Grimes not signing an extension.

But I doubt Grimes has a stage father who requires employment like Rick Brunson, so there's a silver lining.

Grimes is playing for a bigger contract that's why his numbers are up. You guys think it's smart to trade him before the TDL than letting him walk in the summer?


I think it's to early to press panic button. Keep calm.

Grimes is no where talent who Brunson was, he is playing damn good but our rotation is short and our opponents are weak.

With all the guys his minutes will decrease and so his numbers, however he is young and a great addition for this team so i hope Nico will find a way to resign him.

It depends a lot on how we finish the season, It is not excluded that a Bowen 2.0 situation could happen again if we win the ring and he will have an important role.
If some team will offer him a 20M contract it's ok, he will have to choice from contending and the money.
NBA is a business.
We have a lot of useless contract on this team... Kleber, Powell, Morris... Maybe Hardy.
Nico has room to make some magic again.

But first he will be a RFA so it's totally different than Brunson fiasco luckily for us and mostly Cuban is no more here.
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Re: Quentin Grimes Situation 

Post#3 » by Mavrelous » Mon Dec 2, 2024 6:34 pm

He's restricted free agent, Mavs have matching rights, I'm not particularly worried...
It will be a test to the depth of new ownership pockets.
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Post#4 » by mademan » Mon Dec 2, 2024 6:37 pm

Depending on how he looks mid season, i can see a Klay dump (three way for Dlo where Dlo goes elsewhere for an expiring role player). I know the team recruited Klay, but Grimes is a keeper and he may be looking at a 15mill/year type contract, and with Kyrie likely looking for a 5-10 mill/year raise, there's gonna be a cap crunch. Klay is just the easy out with Grimes balling out and Dinwiddie looking like a legit rotation player
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Post#5 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:40 pm

I can't understand all this rush to dump Klay after 20 games in the season, we don't have to resign Grimes tomorrow... Chill guys.

However throw away one of the best shooters in the league when we have Luka Doncic is brainless but i know this forum has already made his decisione about him :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#6 » by Archx » Mon Dec 2, 2024 9:45 pm

mademan wrote:Depending on how he looks mid season, i can see a Klay dump (three way for Dlo where Dlo goes elsewhere for an expiring role player). I know the team recruited Klay, but Grimes is a keeper and he may be looking at a 15mill/year type contract, and with Kyrie likely looking for a 5-10 mill/year raise, there's gonna be a cap crunch. Klay is just the easy out with Grimes balling out and Dinwiddie looking like a legit rotation player


Mavs trading Klay mid season would make them look incredibly foolish. He's not even playing as bad as some people are trying to convince us. The only issue people have is him starting. Otherwise his gravity, experience and simply having much higher bball IQ than THJ, make him valuable. His contract is also not even that big. Grimes will also have to prove a lot more than just past few games to make him a legit starter over Klay.
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Post#7 » by mademan » Tue Dec 3, 2024 12:16 am

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mademan wrote:Depending on how he looks mid season, i can see a Klay dump (three way for Dlo where Dlo goes elsewhere for an expiring role player). I know the team recruited Klay, but Grimes is a keeper and he may be looking at a 15mill/year type contract, and with Kyrie likely looking for a 5-10 mill/year raise, there's gonna be a cap crunch. Klay is just the easy out with Grimes balling out and Dinwiddie looking like a legit rotation player


Mavs trading Klay mid season would make them look incredibly foolish. He's not even playing as bad as some people are trying to convince us. The only issue people have is him starting. Otherwise his gravity, experience and simply having much higher bball IQ than THJ, make him valuable. His contract is also not even that big. Grimes will also have to prove a lot more than just past few games to make him a legit starter over Klay.


I have no problem with Klay and think he's actually been adequate (besides his jumpshot which should return). I also think that Grimes is absolutely a keeper, young and better than Klay and the FO will have to make some tough decisions to be able to keep him. You look up and down the roster and the easiest and most replaceable place to find money is in Klay's 18mill/year
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Post#8 » by Maverick41 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 6:35 am

He's an RFA so just let the situation playout as we'll have matching rights anyway, unlike with Brunson.

This is the new owners chance to flex their spending capabilities. Let's hope they are as willing as early Cuban, rather then post championship Cuban.
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Post#9 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 7:51 am

Maverick41 wrote:He's an RFA so just let the situation playout as we'll have matching rights anyway, unlike with Brunson.

This is the new owners chance to flex their spending capabilities. Let's hope they are as willing as early Cuban, rather then post championship Cuban.


Yes, in the worst case scenario we will match the rights and the after year work for a new contract.

This core has at least 2 years span for win something.

We just hope Nico will trade for a backup PF better than Maxi Kleber who has the Ben Simmons offensive skills set without pass ability.
In fact we play 4 vs 5 on the offensive end. Ouch.
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Post#10 » by 41Dirk41 » Thu Jan 9, 2025 7:02 pm

Quentin Grimes is among the NBA's most efficient off-the-dribble shooters. His 1.179 points per possession rank him fifth among 97 players with 75+.

Insane.
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Post#11 » by arkuo » Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:25 pm

There are reports that Nico is shopping Grimes and Kleber heavily. So we'll see if he's still in a Mavs uniform after the TDL.
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Post#12 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:14 pm

arkuo wrote:There are reports that Nico is shopping Grimes and Kleber heavily. So we'll see if he's still in a Mavs uniform after the TDL.


This the best news from months... I like Grimes but Kleber is so bad that i can accept to lose some assets to unload that scrub.

Unfortunately Kleber resign was one the worst move in Mavs history like i said at the time... Too bad those who were happy have all disappeared :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#13 » by Darren » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:15 am

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arkuo wrote:There are reports that Nico is shopping Grimes and Kleber heavily. So we'll see if he's still in a Mavs uniform after the TDL.


This the best news from months... I like Grimes but Kleber is so bad that i can accept to lose some assets to unload that scrub.

Unfortunately Kleber resign was one the worst move in Mavs history like i said at the time... Too bad those who were happy have all disappeared :lol: :lol: :lol:


I lane towards keeping Grimes, Lively, PJ and Gafford as a core group. I wonder if it works cap wise, despite the RFA status keeping in mind that a couple of core pieces expiring soon. Grimes could play on both end while shooting 40% from the arc. With better consistency, Grimes should start over Klay. Stamina doesn't lie. Klay can play good defense or shoot light out. But this rarely happens at the same time. Klay surely is a true pro, though.
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Post#14 » by Darren » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:18 am

Keep in mind that you still need a Maxi replacement. With Luka and Kyrie's contract status, it's difficult to.get it done unless you're able to build from within, e.g. Omax replacing Maxi.
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Post#15 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:52 am

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arkuo wrote:There are reports that Nico is shopping Grimes and Kleber heavily. So we'll see if he's still in a Mavs uniform after the TDL.


This the best news from months... I like Grimes but Kleber is so bad that i can accept to lose some assets to unload that scrub.

Unfortunately Kleber resign was one the worst move in Mavs history like i said at the time... Too bad those who were happy have all disappeared :lol: :lol: :lol:


I lane towards keeping Grimes, Lively, PJ and Gafford as a core group. I wonder if it works cap wise, despite the RFA status keeping in mind that a couple of core pieces expiring soon. Grimes could play on both end while shooting 40% from the arc. With better consistency, Grimes should start over Klay. Stamina doesn't lie. Klay can play good defense or shoot light out. But this rarely happens at the same time. Klay surely is a true pro, though.


Me too but we have to make choices, Grimes rifiuted Nico extension last summer and we don't want a bid war for him next year.
Kleber is a negative value for the Mavs(mostly because our brillant coach plays him 20 minutes a game) so we have to add assets to dump him.

Every vet min guy can play better than him for 10minutes per game, it's not difficult to find an upgrade. Kleber is purely trash.
With him on the court every opponents defend 5vs4 because he always refuses to shoot and everybody know it. He is a disaster for our team.
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Post#16 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:54 am

Darren wrote:Keep in mind that you still need a Maxi replacement. With Luka and Kyrie's contract status, it's difficult to.get it done unless you're able to build from within, e.g. Omax replacing Maxi.


Vet min PF Who wants to win a ring. Easy to find.

We don't know how bad or how good is O-Max, Kidd prefer Kleber even when he has -26 +/- in 20minutes.

Probably he will never be a NBA player but who knows. Better trade him at this point if he has some value.
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Post#17 » by Apz » Tue Jan 14, 2025 12:57 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Darren wrote:Keep in mind that you still need a Maxi replacement. With Luka and Kyrie's contract status, it's difficult to.get it done unless you're able to build from within, e.g. Omax replacing Maxi.


Vet min PF Who wants to win a ring. Easy to find.


We don't know how bad or how good is O-Max, Kidd prefer Kleber even when he has -26 +/- in 20minutes.

Probably he will never be a NBA player but who knows. Better trade him at this point if he has some value.


We got one of those in morris. Helping how? The truth is that its not easy to find any spot
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Post#18 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:51 pm

Apz wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Darren wrote:Keep in mind that you still need a Maxi replacement. With Luka and Kyrie's contract status, it's difficult to.get it done unless you're able to build from within, e.g. Omax replacing Maxi.


Vet min PF Who wants to win a ring. Easy to find.


We don't know how bad or how good is O-Max, Kidd prefer Kleber even when he has -26 +/- in 20minutes.

Probably he will never be a NBA player but who knows. Better trade him at this point if he has some value.


We got one of those in morris. Helping how? The truth is that its not easy to find any spot


Morris is not an NBA player.
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Post#19 » by Darren » Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:56 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
Darren wrote:Keep in mind that you still need a Maxi replacement. With Luka and Kyrie's contract status, it's difficult to.get it done unless you're able to build from within, e.g. Omax replacing Maxi.


Vet min PF Who wants to win a ring. Easy to find.

We don't know how bad or how good is O-Max, Kidd prefer Kleber even when he has -26 +/- in 20minutes.

Probably he will never be a NBA player but who knows. Better trade him at this point if he has some value.


Maxi has regressed from nearly 50% from 3 to 20% this year. Maxi is not tall enough to play the 5 while not quick enough to guard the 4 anymore. Maxi is playing without a position now. I'd rather roll the dice with a young leg in OMax. Can Omax shoots better than 20% from the arc? I don't know. But the defense, rebounding and post-scoring is vastly improving. The percentage is not very good overall but Omax has been balling lately.
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Re: Quentin Grimes Situation 

Post#20 » by kanofwindHK » Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:10 am

He's restricted free agent, end

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