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Re: PG: KNICKS vs Pelicans - We SEXXXED Dem Fools!!! 

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Post#182 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:14 pm

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Except against switch-heavy teams which all the top contenders are... soooooo....


that is where we need Thibs to have a counter for that. We know how teams will play it now we need to execute vs it.

Too much stagnation when team switch with us. Good thing we know its an issue right now...should be plenty of time to work thru this during the season and be prepared for it during the playoffs.


All counters are really going to boil down to isolation against a switching team. We can pick and choose which matchups we want to exploit and then it is a matter of punishing it until they put two on the ball.


agreed it will be isolation related and most likely Brunson or Towns being the guy. I just hate when they just give it to Towns so far away from the basket vs a small. Too much room for mistakes.

After you get the switch. Need to swing the ball and get Towns on a cross screen across the paint. Have him on he low block instead of trying to great at the 3 pt line.
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Re: PG: KNICKS vs Pelicans - We SEXXXED Dem Fools!!! 

Post#183 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:17 pm

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If we can trade him for a 1st round pick or multiple 2nd round picks, we should jump on that opportunity


Sims, precious, kolek and pacome for Kessler and sexton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



It would take more than that from Ainge (and I would be OK to give it to him). There are reports they are definitely looking to deal by the trade deadline (while Markenen basically being the only near untouchable). If we were to go after Sexton (who I don't think we would even really need) it would mean including Mitch as that's the only way salaries work.

Kessler (2.7M)
Sexton (18.4M)


Mitch Rob (14.3), Precious (6M) , Pacome (1.8M), Kolek (2.1M) =24.2M and 2FRPs for Kessler (2.7M) , Sexton (18.4M) , Johnny Juzang (3.1M) = 24.2M

The more likely would be something like Kessler (2.7M) , Drew Ewbanks (5.0M)+ Juzang (3.1M) =10.8M for Precious (6M) , Pacome (1.8M), Kolek (2.1M) , HukPorti (1.1M) = 10.9M and 1FRP

You have at that point greatly fortified our biggest weakness: Rim protection at the 5. Utah gets the youth movement it's looking for with some interesting prospects and a FRP to boot.





You have to let the Kessler idea go, the guy is due an extension, we cannot afford him and be under the 2nd apron while resigning Mikal. Kessler is going to get paid like a starting level center would because that's what he is, and they're not trading Juzang either as he's been playing well.
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Post#185 » by Guano » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:19 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:By the way, if Josh Hart can keep his 3pt shooting in the upper 30s range I would be scared to play this team in April.


he even hit that pull up 3 on the break

you know he's feeling good about the jumper when he's taking and making that shot.


That and when he crossed his defender up to hit a middy had me
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Post#186 » by ctorres » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:19 pm

A veteran wing player off the bench makes way more sense than Sexton

Basically, a 3&D guy who does not need to dribble to shoot it. Our entire starting lineup wants the ball in their hands at one point or another. You meed bench players willing to compliment the starters.
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Post#187 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:20 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:By the way, if Josh Hart can keep his 3pt shooting in the upper 30s range I would be scared to play this team in April.


he even hit that pull up 3 on the break

you know he's feeling good about the jumper when he's taking and making that shot.


That and when he crossed his defender up to hit a middy had me
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Post#189 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:31 pm

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Hopefully just rounding the corner. Probably just taking him some time to adjust from playing with the Nets


i mean, how many baths do you need to take after you get sprayed by a skunk?


You gotta bathe in tomato sauce or something crazy to get the stink off if I recall, so, these things take time.


like, if nothing else a bro gotta marinate.
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Re: PG: KNICKS vs Pelicans - We SEXXXED Dem Fools!!! 

Post#190 » by GONYK » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:35 pm

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that is where we need Thibs to have a counter for that. We know how teams will play it now we need to execute vs it.

Too much stagnation when team switch with us. Good thing we know its an issue right now...should be plenty of time to work thru this during the season and be prepared for it during the playoffs.


All counters are really going to boil down to isolation against a switching team. We can pick and choose which matchups we want to exploit and then it is a matter of punishing it until they put two on the ball.


agreed it will be isolation related and most likely Brunson or Towns being the guy. I just hate when they just give it to Towns so far away from the basket vs a small. Too much room for mistakes.

After you get the switch. Need to swing the ball and get Towns on a cross screen across the paint. Have him on he low block instead of trying to great at the 3 pt line.


Agreed. Once Brunson draws the big out, Towns should get to the paint. The issues come when they double/hard hedge Brunson on the switch. Basically, OG or Mikal needs to be a better connector there because Josh generally isn't on the same side as the 1/5 PnR action. Either that or KAT needs to do more Hartensteining out of the pinch post.
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Post#191 » by BKlutch » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:43 pm

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7 points
4 rebounds
2 assists
2 steals
4 blocks
2 turnovers

Yeah I'm going to need OG to score more than seven points.

The defense is fantastic and all, but if we are going to be a contender he needs to continue dropping 18 points per game.


Oopsy. I could’ve sworn I heard CP say 7 turnovers. My bad OG.

How do these guys drastically go from sweet to sour from one game to the next in the shooting department?

7 points, 2 turnovers, and 3 peach cobblers.
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Post#192 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:44 pm

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All counters are really going to boil down to isolation against a switching team. We can pick and choose which matchups we want to exploit and then it is a matter of punishing it until they put two on the ball.


agreed it will be isolation related and most likely Brunson or Towns being the guy. I just hate when they just give it to Towns so far away from the basket vs a small. Too much room for mistakes.

After you get the switch. Need to swing the ball and get Towns on a cross screen across the paint. Have him on he low block instead of trying to great at the 3 pt line.


Agreed. Once Brunson draws the big out, Towns should get to the paint. The issues come when they double/hard hedge Brunson on the switch. Basically, OG or Mikal needs to be a better connector there because Josh generally isn't on the same side as the 1/5 PnR action. Either that or KAT needs to do more Hartensteining out of the pinch post.


Yeah I really liked how Mikal not only shot well yesterday he was very active especially with his cuts. His mid range game has been so good. He needs to flash in that top of the key area to give Brunson the outlet on the switch/double hard on Brunson.

Like you said Hart is great at that but isn't on the side of a 1/5 P&R. So it needs to be Mikal or OG (I prefer Mikal) OG's handles and passing are a bit sus.

But Mikal should thrive in the top of the key spot where he can dribble into a middy. Or get the ball to KAT on the low block to finish over a small.
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Post#193 » by sol537 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:45 pm

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All counters are really going to boil down to isolation against a switching team. We can pick and choose which matchups we want to exploit and then it is a matter of punishing it until they put two on the ball.


agreed it will be isolation related and most likely Brunson or Towns being the guy. I just hate when they just give it to Towns so far away from the basket vs a small. Too much room for mistakes.

After you get the switch. Need to swing the ball and get Towns on a cross screen across the paint. Have him on he low block instead of trying to great at the 3 pt line.


Agreed. Once Brunson draws the big out, Towns should get to the paint. The issues come when they double/hard hedge Brunson on the switch. Basically, OG or Mikal needs to be a better connector there because Josh generally isn't on the same side as the 1/5 PnR action. Either that or KAT needs to do more Hartensteining out of the pinch post.


Boston had great success with getting KP to post at the free throw line once there was a switch on that pick and roll... KP would turn and hit a high percentage free throw over the smaller defender or he'd pass to an open teammate. We need KAT to do the same thing if they switch the pick and roll with Brunson... haven't seen the Knicks do much of this yet.
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Post#194 » by BKlutch » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:47 pm

Context wrote:sorry Knick family I'm not buying into this notion that "fans" needed to hold Mikal (who is clearly not the type to be rattled) "accountable". Mikal is a player who may not be a #1 but he can put up 45 points and carry a team. When you come from
a team where your role was bigger- it takes time to figure out your new lane- especially a team that's this dynamic.

I mean 20 games in -we're the #1 offense -Yet, you want everyone to drop 30 :lol:

The fact that no one made a post on the great game he had is negative to me...

20 games in! No precious. No Mitch. 7 man rotation. New team. Chemistry under construction. I think we have a better record than
Lebron's big Miami 3 :wink:

I'm sure everyone on the team knew that the major thrust of the first 20 games needed to be getting Big KAT integrated into the offense, or there woulndn't be much to cheer about at the end of the season. I think Mikal took a back seat, but now his teammates are trying to get him more into the flow of the game. He has been a fine player and he continues to be. Maybe we underrated "unselfish" as one of his characteristics. As for the D, though, I have no idea how to explain the switch that was thrown from "blend" to "beat."
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Post#195 » by BKlutch » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:48 pm

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I think their problems long precede Zion's health/diet/other issues.

David Griffin has built a monstrosity of a roster with some of the best cards any GM had in the league.

I was telling one of my friends a couple weeks ago that trading for Dejounte made zero sense. They have 3 ball dominant players in Ingram, Cj and Zion and they decided to add another one. What is their GM doing?

Exactly, 3TH. But the trade made perfect sense for Atlanta :lol:
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Post#196 » by BKlutch » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:49 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks need to get back to losing so board can be more active

You noticed that, huh? If the posts stop coming before I'm too tired to continue reading them, something's wrong.
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Post#198 » by BKlutch » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:51 pm

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This winning games stuff is really terrible! Where's the 21 win seasons where everyone has favorite players to argue about even though they can't win a fuggin game?

Oh wow, those were the days. Remember KOQ? I loved his (maybe once a month) KOQ blocks. Of course, most of the time, it was just KOQ sucked. But he was from Jamaica, like me! So there's that.
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Post#199 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Mon Dec 2, 2024 7:57 pm

Jalen just deciding he's going to be a top 10 playmaker is hilarious.
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Post#200 » by mpharris36 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 8:02 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Jalen just deciding he's going to be a top 10 playmaker is hilarious.


all within like a 2 week stretch after the offense wasn't firing and KAT wasn't getting involved enough.

I guess we shouldn't doubt that Nova mentality. They're just winners and do whatever it takes for the team to win.
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