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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#741 » by JDR720 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 9:11 pm

I don't see how or why we'd trade for Lonzo. The last thing we need is another injury prone player.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#742 » by JMAC3 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 9:15 pm

fatlever wrote:And I think more realistic than us trading for him during the season would be Lonzo coming here as a free agent in the summer. I guess if he's willing to take less money to play with his brother, then that's certainly scenario the front office would need to consider. Especially if Lonzo can make it through the year semi healthy.


Here is my latest theory...

Lonzo and Bulls are working on a buyout, because they know they likely won't get much via trade.
Charlotte then takes the Grant Williams injury exception money which is 6.5 million, it would be 1 year and then Charlotte extends him this summer.
In return that 6.5 million gets counted against the Bulls buyout for this year so they save a lot of coin.

Hence all the smoke, but having to wait for all these things to be sorted.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#743 » by fatlever » Mon Dec 2, 2024 9:33 pm

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fatlever wrote:And I think more realistic than us trading for him during the season would be Lonzo coming here as a free agent in the summer. I guess if he's willing to take less money to play with his brother, then that's certainly scenario the front office would need to consider. Especially if Lonzo can make it through the year semi healthy.


Here is my latest theory...

Lonzo and Bulls are working on a buyout, because they know they likely won't get much via trade.
Charlotte then takes the Grant Williams injury exception money which is 6.5 million, it would be 1 year and then Charlotte extends him this summer.
In return that 6.5 million gets counted against the Bulls buyout for this year so they save a lot of coin.

Hence all the smoke, but having to wait for all these things to be sorted.

makes sense
It would be good for melo. Another sign that the franchise is committed to him. Obviously it sells tickets in the talking heads at ESPN would love it. It may be nothing more than a novelty, but a halfway healthy lonzo and melo Together would be a lot of fun. Let me each other pretty well. The last piece of the puzzle would be somehow prying okongwu from the hawks. haha
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#744 » by MPM » Mon Dec 2, 2024 9:49 pm

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fatlever wrote:And I think more realistic than us trading for him during the season would be Lonzo coming here as a free agent in the summer. I guess if he's willing to take less money to play with his brother, then that's certainly scenario the front office would need to consider. Especially if Lonzo can make it through the year semi healthy.


Here is my latest theory...

Lonzo and Bulls are working on a buyout, because they know they likely won't get much via trade.
Charlotte then takes the Grant Williams injury exception money which is 6.5 million, it would be 1 year and then Charlotte extends him this summer.
In return that 6.5 million gets counted against the Bulls buyout for this year so they save a lot of coin.

Hence all the smoke, but having to wait for all these things to be sorted.


Hope your vision manifests. Would be good with this outcome.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#745 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Dec 2, 2024 10:04 pm

Yall really excited about this Lonzo Ball talk huh?

Not sure that he brings anything besides a feel good story and teaming up with big bro. I don't see his impact on the team. Also another player who can't stay healthy.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#746 » by yosemiteben » Mon Dec 2, 2024 10:16 pm

If he stays healthy (big if obviously), I don't know how you can not see his impact on the team. Roll of the dice on him staying healthy, but if it's appropriately hedged I don't see the down side.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#747 » by JMAC3 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 10:25 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Yall really excited about this Lonzo Ball talk huh?

Not sure that he brings anything besides a feel good story and teaming up with big bro. I don't see his impact on the team. Also another player who can't stay healthy.


Lonzo is basically Alex Caruso if healthy.
Spot up shooting, can guard 1-3, can give you some playmaking.
The LaMelo thing is gravy on top.
If he made 10 million instead of 21 million and was healthy the interest would be pretty big.

Even if he gets injured and doesn't play its basically like Thanasis where having him on the roster helps keep LaMelo happier longterm.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#748 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Dec 2, 2024 10:40 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Yall really excited about this Lonzo Ball talk huh?

Not sure that he brings anything besides a feel good story and teaming up with big bro. I don't see his impact on the team. Also another player who can't stay healthy.


Lonzo is basically Alex Caruso if healthy.
Spot up shooting, can guard 1-3, can give you some playmaking.
The LaMelo thing is gravy on top.
If he made 10 million instead of 21 million and was healthy the interest would be pretty big.

Even if he gets injured and doesn't play its basically like Thanasis where having him on the roster helps keep LaMelo happier longterm.

Lonzo Ball has played in 5 games with a whopping 4ppg/2rpg/4apg.

Like cmon people you selling me on a dude who hasn't played in basically 3 years due to injury. He's not even been playing this season. I don't see any value in this player other then it's a feel good story for Lavar that his sons are playing together again.

Caruso actually plays so no he's nothing like Caruso because Caruso is actually making his impact on the court not on the sideline in street clothes.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#749 » by JMAC3 » Mon Dec 2, 2024 10:52 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Yall really excited about this Lonzo Ball talk huh?

Not sure that he brings anything besides a feel good story and teaming up with big bro. I don't see his impact on the team. Also another player who can't stay healthy.


Lonzo is basically Alex Caruso if healthy.
Spot up shooting, can guard 1-3, can give you some playmaking.
The LaMelo thing is gravy on top.
If he made 10 million instead of 21 million and was healthy the interest would be pretty big.

Even if he gets injured and doesn't play its basically like Thanasis where having him on the roster helps keep LaMelo happier longterm.

Lonzo Ball has played in 5 games with a whopping 4ppg/2rpg/4apg.

Like cmon people you selling me on a dude who hasn't played in basically 3 years due to injury. He's not even been playing this season. I don't see any value in this player other then it's a feel good story for Lavar that his sons are playing together again.

Caruso actually plays so no he's nothing like Caruso because Caruso is actually making his impact on the court not on the sideline in street clothes.


Clearly Bulls are bringing him back slowly, he is playing 17 mpg. His career averages are

32 mins, 12 ppg, 6 boards, 6 assists while shooting 36% from three and being a plus plus defender.

I mean nobody is saying trade the farm for him, but in terms of a low risk move I think the payoff could be nice.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#750 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Dec 2, 2024 11:50 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
Lonzo is basically Alex Caruso if healthy.
Spot up shooting, can guard 1-3, can give you some playmaking.
The LaMelo thing is gravy on top.
If he made 10 million instead of 21 million and was healthy the interest would be pretty big.

Even if he gets injured and doesn't play its basically like Thanasis where having him on the roster helps keep LaMelo happier longterm.

Lonzo Ball has played in 5 games with a whopping 4ppg/2rpg/4apg.

Like cmon people you selling me on a dude who hasn't played in basically 3 years due to injury. He's not even been playing this season. I don't see any value in this player other then it's a feel good story for Lavar that his sons are playing together again.

Caruso actually plays so no he's nothing like Caruso because Caruso is actually making his impact on the court not on the sideline in street clothes.


Clearly Bulls are bringing him back slowly, he is playing 17 mpg. His career averages are

32 mins, 12 ppg, 6 boards, 6 assists while shooting 36% from three and being a plus plus defender.

I mean nobody is saying trade the farm for him, but in terms of a low risk move I think the payoff could be nice.
The payoff would be nice if he can actually stay healthy. I just don't think that's realistic given his history.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#751 » by Rich4114 » Tue Dec 3, 2024 1:41 pm

Yeah this is the type of move where if we aren't giving up anything of substance, there is low risk and high reward on multiple fronts. Take Ball off his name and he's still a player this roster would need.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#752 » by JDR720 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 6:09 pm

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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#753 » by Hornet Mania » Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:30 pm

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Great video.

And holy ****, according to that guy Melo's points per possession are second only to Michael Jordan's 87 campaign among players 23 or younger all time. That's wild.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#754 » by HornetJail » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:44 pm

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fga_per_poss_season.html

Still on pace for the all time FGA/possession record and the gap is widening

He's a full 7 FGA ahead of second place this season lmao
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#755 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:17 am

HornetJail wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fga_per_poss_season.html

Still on pace for the all time FGA/possession record and the gap is widening

He's a full 7 FGA ahead of second place this season lmao

This is why we should be hoping we get Dylan Harper in the draft. There is nobody else who can create with Melo on the court. Miller handles is just not there yet. Melo has no other choice.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#756 » by fatlever » Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:21 pm

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Post#757 » by KembaWalker » Mon Dec 23, 2024 7:32 pm

fatlever wrote:
Read on Twitter


just imagine if we were good


and LaMelo wonders what if he was on a good team
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#758 » by Rich4114 » Mon Dec 23, 2024 10:37 pm

HornetJail wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fga_per_poss_season.html

Still on pace for the all time FGA/possession record and the gap is widening

He's a full 7 FGA ahead of second place this season lmao


And he's still averaging 7.5 assists per game on that many FGA. I mean he IS the team.
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Post#759 » by yosemiteben » Thu Jan 2, 2025 6:09 pm

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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#760 » by JDR720 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 6:17 pm

2nd overall for guards. Only 100k behind SGA.

If we were any good, Melo would be in the argument for the face of the league, or at least the most popular player.

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