Official RJ Barrett Thread

[raptorforlife88]

Just such a different player when he gets to play with someone better than him. You take away all the things he does poorly and just have him do the one thing he does great (turn the corner and get downhill with full force) over and over and over again. Take a few catch and shoot threes and there you are.

I’m telling some of these posters grind their teeth when giving RJ any praise this poster lead with a barrage of back handed compliments.

I need some of you guys to stop pretending you’re team execs. That would kill half of the preconceived notions and contrived narratives here.

I'm very confused. If you look at my posts in this thread I am consistently praising RJ, and expressing that I think his sample size with Toronto shows he's a good player. Honestly if you go back to last year and see those posts, if anything I'm overly optimistic about RJ's play.

I'm literally describing what has happened and why he's done so well the last few games. He struggled as the main guy, we all saw that and that's fine, he's not supposed to be the main guy.

We see when he's playing off of a better player like Scottie, he's immediately better. We can see when he's playing off of somebody he plays to his strengths, instead of trying to create everything, he's used in ways he can get to the rim quickly.

I think you have to stop being so sensitive to the idea that a player can be described in realistic terms. And also stop being so sensitive in a thread like this when someone criticizes his play let alone when someone praises it.

[XTC]

TS% is back up to 56%

While averaging 24/6/6

BREAKOUT YEAAAAAARRRRR

[raptorforlife88]

TS% is back up to 56%

While averaging 24/6/6

BREAKOUT YEAAAAAARRRRR

Genuinely would be even higher if Scottie hadn't been injured for nearly a month. Watching them play off each other is nice.

[dTox]

Sengun is not better than Barnes...lol

Hell nah, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their head checked. Scottie is better than Sengun in almost every aspect of the game other than post ups.

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[raptorforlife88]

Sengun is not better than Barnes...lol

Hell nah, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their head checked. Scottie is better than Sengun in almost every aspect of the game other than post ups.

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Sengun has improved a lot defensively and is absolutely the main reason Houston has succeeded this year. By both BPM and VORP he's ranked in the top 5 of the league overall (I don't think he's quite that good).

Maybe some of that is the product of having a better team around him, but Sengun has been better than Scottie this year.

[Scizzup]

RJ 21-5-4 on 54%
Jdub 19-4-4 on 54%

Both 23 - Rgm board would have y'all believe these are two completely different players. Heck ppl will say Jdub better than Scottie.

Jalen is much better than RJ. One is an all star impact player approaching top 15 player. The other is not a top 40 player. And I am someone that has liked Rj improvement as a Raptor.

There is nothing on offense Rj does better or equal, and Jalen is actually a very good defender (super elite this year). If Jalen had his own team this would be obvious just like it is looking for Franz right now. Only reason its not obvious for some with JDUB is that he doesn't have same usage playing in OKC. He is a stud.

jalen vs Scottie is a close comp and I think he has been better, I also think most GM's would prefer him over Barnes just due to his skillset.

ESPN just did their recent top 25 under 25. I would have it Franz=Jalen, Barnes, Sengun if I were to rank those 4 though.

4. Franz
9. JDUB
10. Sengun
11 Barnes

In what world is Jalen williams a top 15 players? I cant believe this discourse on a raptor forum. You and scase need to move to okc’s board.

You didn't read? I said he is approaching top 15. He is playing all nba defense and giving you 22/6/5 and 3 stocks on 60% TS. Personally, I don't have top 15 until he shows he can play like this all year.

all his impact metrics are approaching that of a top 15 player or already is. It's not my fault you don't understand basketball.

Edit: if he plays like this all year he is making 3rd team all nba btw.

[RoteSchroder]

Just such a different player when he gets to play with someone better than him. You take away all the things he does poorly and just have him do the one thing he does great (turn the corner and get downhill with full force) over and over and over again. Take a few catch and shoot threes and there you are.

I’m telling some of these posters grind their teeth when giving RJ any praise this poster lead with a barrage of back handed compliments.

I need some of you guys to stop pretending you’re team execs. That would kill half of the preconceived notions and contrived narratives here.

I'm very confused. If you look at my posts in this thread I am consistently praising RJ, and expressing that I think his sample size with Toronto shows he's a good player. Honestly if you go back to last year and see those posts, if anything I'm overly optimistic about RJ's play.

I'm literally describing what has happened and why he's done so well the last few games. He struggled as the main guy, we all saw that and that's fine, he's not supposed to be the main guy.

We see when he's playing off of a better player like Scottie, he's immediately better. We can see when he's playing off of somebody he plays to his strengths, instead of trying to create everything, he's used in ways he can get to the rim quickly.

I think you have to stop being so sensitive to the idea that a player can be described in realistic terms. And also stop being so sensitive in a thread like this when someone criticizes his play let alone when someone praises it.

Ironically, irrational emotional ppl who use logical fallacies and misconstrues intentions would make a terrible executive. Level-headed people like yourself would make great team executives. It's just about the easiest job in the world and there are very little repercussions for failure.

[Scizzup]

RJ 21-5-4 on 54%
Jdub 19-4-4 on 54%

Both 23 - Rgm board would have y'all believe these are two completely different players. Heck ppl will say Jdub better than Scottie.

Jalen is much better than RJ. One is an all star impact player approaching top 15 player. The other is not a top 40 player. And I am someone that has liked Rj improvement as a Raptor.

There is nothing on offense Rj does better or equal, and Jalen is actually a very good defender (super elite this year). If Jalen had his own team this would be obvious just like it is looking for Franz right now. Only reason its not obvious for some with JDUB is that he doesn't have same usage playing in OKC. He is a stud.

jalen vs Scottie is a close comp and I think he has been better, I also think most GM's would prefer him over Barnes just due to his skillset.

ESPN just did their recent top 25 under 25. I would have it Franz=Jalen, Barnes, Sengun if I were to rank those 4 though.

4. Franz
9. JDUB
10. Sengun
11 Barnes

Well, RJ definitely gets to the line better which is Jalen's weakness right now. If Jalen ever starts getting to the line 7 or 8 times a game, he's a borderline superstar.

yea, that is the one thing he does better than Jdub. I was speaking more on skillset so I forgot that but I noted in on another post. I

jalen is better than RJ at dribbling, shooting, finishing and even playmaking imo. he just rarely ever makes a mistakes. This while being all nba defender this year. He has been top 3 defender on a historic defense all year.

[PushDaRock]

Just such a different player when he gets to play with someone better than him. You take away all the things he does poorly and just have him do the one thing he does great (turn the corner and get downhill with full force) over and over and over again. Take a few catch and shoot threes and there you are.

I’m telling some of these posters grind their teeth when giving RJ any praise this poster lead with a barrage of back handed compliments.

I need some of you guys to stop pretending you’re team execs. That would kill half of the preconceived notions and contrived narratives here.

I'm very confused. If you look at my posts in this thread I am consistently praising RJ, and expressing that I think his sample size with Toronto shows he's a good player. Honestly if you go back to last year and see those posts, if anything I'm overly optimistic about RJ's play.

I'm literally describing what has happened and why he's done so well the last few games. He struggled as the main guy, we all saw that and that's fine, he's not supposed to be the main guy.

We see when he's playing off of a better player like Scottie, he's immediately better. We can see when he's playing off of somebody he plays to his strengths, instead of trying to create everything, he's used in ways he can get to the rim quickly.

I think you have to stop being so sensitive to the idea that a player can be described in realistic terms. And also stop being so sensitive in a thread like this when someone criticizes his play let alone when someone praises it.

The fact that he appears to be able to blend in and play well with better talent is actually a positive thing. The last thing you want to see is RJ exploding in the games without Scottie but being bad/mediocre in the games with him. You want your best talent to be complimentary towards each other which these 2 appear to be.

[XTC]

TS% is back up to 56%

While averaging 24/6/6

BREAKOUT YEAAAAAARRRRR

Genuinely would be even higher if Scottie hadn't been injured for nearly a month. Watching them play off each other is nice.

My prediction is honestly he's going to average 26 on 58% true shooting by the end of the year.

Him and Scottie are dynamic.

[PushDaRock]

Jalen is much better than RJ. One is an all star impact player approaching top 15 player. The other is not a top 40 player. And I am someone that has liked Rj improvement as a Raptor.

There is nothing on offense Rj does better or equal, and Jalen is actually a very good defender (super elite this year). If Jalen had his own team this would be obvious just like it is looking for Franz right now. Only reason its not obvious for some with JDUB is that he doesn't have same usage playing in OKC. He is a stud.

jalen vs Scottie is a close comp and I think he has been better, I also think most GM's would prefer him over Barnes just due to his skillset.

ESPN just did their recent top 25 under 25. I would have it Franz=Jalen, Barnes, Sengun if I were to rank those 4 though.

4. Franz
9. JDUB
10. Sengun
11 Barnes

Well, RJ definitely gets to the line better which is Jalen's weakness right now. If Jalen ever starts getting to the line 7 or 8 times a game, he's a borderline superstar.

yea, that is the one thing he does better than Jdub. I was speaking more on skillset so I forgot that but I noted in on another post. I

jalen is better than RJ at dribbling, shooting, finishing and even playmaking imo. he just rarely ever makes a mistakes. This while being all nba defender this year. He has been top 3 defender on a historic defense all year.

Yeah, I think he's a very good player, 3 level efficient scorer and great defender. His floor is just extremely high with how many things he does well, he should become a perennial AS at the very least.

Only thing Jalen looking bad on are his on/off splits. He's having his minutes staggered with SGA so one of them is always on the court and SGA is just so good that it makes those numbers look really bad.

[tsherkin]

"Top 15" is a little aggressive for Williams, but yes, he is obviously better than RJ. Much better shooter, even if you factor in the difference in passing support. MUCH better defender.

But I think we should probably pivot back to what RJ is showing with Scottie back. He has his weaknesses, but he seems to be responding well with this context, as he did last year.

I don't really think comparing him to Jalen is helpful. As long as he is improving for us, that should be the only relevant part.

[tsherkin]

TS% is back up to 56%

While averaging 24/6/6

BREAKOUT YEAAAAAARRRRR

Genuinely would be even higher if Scottie hadn't been injured for nearly a month. Watching them play off each other is nice.

My prediction is honestly he's going to average 26 on 58% true shooting by the end of the year.

Him and Scottie are dynamic.

If league average stays as is, a shade lower than thr past 2 seasons, 58% would have RJ above league average for the first time. 26 is probably a bit much but 22+ on better than average efficiency (even like +1%) would be pretty nice.

[MiamiSPX]

TS% is back up to 56%

While averaging 24/6/6

BREAKOUT YEAAAAAARRRRR

Genuinely would be even higher if Scottie hadn't been injured for nearly a month. Watching them play off each other is nice.

My prediction is honestly he's going to average 26 on 58% true shooting by the end of the year.

Him and Scottie are dynamic.

They are becoming a formidable duo, and that's with both of them turning the ball over a ton, and not hitting their FTs, a couple of things I assume they will improve over time (hopefully).

[Duffman100]

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