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[KidA24]

But Mids is not near Dame either.

That's not true. He won a championship being the best player in 1-2 series'. Averaged an efficient 25/9/5 thru a series w/ an ankle injury last yr. Similar stats in recent playoffs to Tatum, Butler, etc. When he's healthier he's still better on d than Dame.

Their salaries this yr are all fair to good by NBA terms. Dames' contract is unequivocally the worst of the 3 cuz there's little disparity between him & Khris in the playoffs, & Dames' rapidly escalates into likely over the hill years. Next yr he makes 58, then 63 at 36. Khris makes 34 at 34. May well decline his option next yr & restructure.

good post but you forgot the most important part. khris is maybe the best fit next to giannis as any guy on planet earth.

if both those guys are dialed in its a 1 + 1 = 3 thing. we talked alot about bud being gone and how his systems gave the kind of gravity that made everybody else better. thats been gone to some degree the last several years and bud should get some credit but i think its also the fact that giannis/midds have been in and out so much that the role players have suffered. we have a different look every night and the guys dominating the ball still havent figured it all out. midds creates flow and slows things down and makes things easy for others even if hes making it look hard for himself.

dame is a stud but hes a 1a. as is giannis. to me they both seem to have absolutely no idea how to be a 1b let alone a 2 or 3 in a team concept

Midds acts both as a pressure release valve and force multiplier.

Having him off side for Dame/Brook action will be incredible

[soxperry]

Since the Giannis "compete" speech (11 games, including Boston loss):

Offensive Rating:

1. New York 123.1
2. Boston 120.8
3. Cleveland 119.1
4. Dallas 119.1
5. Chicago 117.8
6. Milwaukee 116.9
7. OKC 116.6
8. Denver 116.4
9. Memphis 115.9
10. Sacramento 115.8

Defensive Rating:

1. Houston 103.4
2. Orlando 105.0
3. Clippers 105.8
4. OKC 107.3
5. Minnesota 109.0
6. Golden State 109.2
7. Memphis 109.3
8. Milwaukee 109.4
9. Miami 109.6
10. Toronto 109.9

Net Rating:

1. Houston +9.3
2. OKC +9.3
3. Boston +9.2
4. Dallas +8.9
5. New York +8.7
6. Cleveland +8.1
7. Milwaukee +7.5
8. Orlando +6.6
9. Memphis +6.6
10. Clippers +6.4
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11. Denver +1.8 (not a typo)

[yb90]

If the Bucks do a 3 team deal with the nets and Kings, trading Portis into the Kings exception and Marjon into rhe Nets exception, would the Bucka get one exception combining Portis and Beauchamp's outgoing salaries or do they get 2 seperate Exceptions?

[ShootingtheJ]

If the Bucks do a 3 team deal with the nets and Kings, trading Portis into the Kings exception and Marjon into rhe Nets exception, would the Bucka get one exception combining Portis and Beauchamp's outgoing salaries or do they get 2 seperate Exceptions?

The Kings and Nets create the exceptions, not us. We create a small exception for the difference in salary we take back, but we can't use that exception unless we move below the 2nd apron.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

If the Bucks do a 3 team deal with the nets and Kings, trading Portis into the Kings exception and Marjon into rhe Nets exception, would the Bucka get one exception combining Portis and Beauchamp's outgoing salaries or do they get 2 seperate Exceptions?

you had me at trading portis and then got to distracted in day dreams to read the rest

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

That's not true. He won a championship being the best player in 1-2 series'. Averaged an efficient 25/9/5 thru a series w/ an ankle injury last yr. Similar stats in recent playoffs to Tatum, Butler, etc. When he's healthier he's still better on d than Dame.

Their salaries this yr are all fair to good by NBA terms. Dames' contract is unequivocally the worst of the 3 cuz there's little disparity between him & Khris in the playoffs, & Dames' rapidly escalates into likely over the hill years. Next yr he makes 58, then 63 at 36. Khris makes 34 at 34. May well decline his option next yr & restructure.

good post but you forgot the most important part. khris is maybe the best fit next to giannis as any guy on planet earth.

if both those guys are dialed in its a 1 + 1 = 3 thing. we talked alot about bud being gone and how his systems gave the kind of gravity that made everybody else better. thats been gone to some degree the last several years and bud should get some credit but i think its also the fact that giannis/midds have been in and out so much that the role players have suffered. we have a different look every night and the guys dominating the ball still havent figured it all out. midds creates flow and slows things down and makes things easy for others even if hes making it look hard for himself.

dame is a stud but hes a 1a. as is giannis. to me they both seem to have absolutely no idea how to be a 1b let alone a 2 or 3 in a team concept

Midds acts both as a pressure release valve and force multiplier.

Having him off side for Dame/Brook action will be incredible

absolutely. its sad af but the last time this team had giannis and midds together playing a full series as a unit we won a 6 game series and a title against the suns. its sickening that over the last 3 years we literally havent had a series where they could just go do their thing together.

if a rested midds is our only "trade deadline acquisition" then thatll be good enough for me

[Diggr14]

That's not true. He won a championship being the best player in 1-2 series'. Averaged an efficient 25/9/5 thru a series w/ an ankle injury last yr. Similar stats in recent playoffs to Tatum, Butler, etc. When he's healthier he's still better on d than Dame.

Their salaries this yr are all fair to good by NBA terms. Dames' contract is unequivocally the worst of the 3 cuz there's little disparity between him & Khris in the playoffs, & Dames' rapidly escalates into likely over the hill years. Next yr he makes 58, then 63 at 36. Khris makes 34 at 34. May well decline his option next yr & restructure.

good post but you forgot the most important part. khris is maybe the best fit next to giannis as any guy on planet earth.

if both those guys are dialed in its a 1 + 1 = 3 thing. we talked alot about bud being gone and how his systems gave the kind of gravity that made everybody else better. thats been gone to some degree the last several years and bud should get some credit but i think its also the fact that giannis/midds have been in and out so much that the role players have suffered. we have a different look every night and the guys dominating the ball still havent figured it all out. midds creates flow and slows things down and makes things easy for others even if hes making it look hard for himself.

dame is a stud but hes a 1a. as is giannis. to me they both seem to have absolutely no idea how to be a 1b let alone a 2 or 3 in a team concept

Midds acts both as a pressure release valve and force multiplier.

Having him off side for Dame/Brook action will be incredible

Mids has been hot garbage for 3-4 years now. Implying he makes a difference is laughable. He is a net negative on defense and at best a mid level scoring option on offense. AJ Green is probably a better fit at this point, and that's the truth.

[msiris]

Mids will never be 100% healthy. Too much has happened to his body to withstand even a moderate level of playing time.

You can't in good faith make this as a definitive statement. You aren't he nor his doctor. Even they likely don't know in the negative.

Not questioning his talent. He had some minor surgeries but the healing times have been abnormally long by most standards which tells me his body does not heal that well and he will be very prone to injuries.

[Baddy Chuck]

Mids has been hot garbage for 3-4 years now. Implying he makes a difference is laughable. He is a net negative on defense and at best a mid level scoring option on offense. AJ Green is probably a better fit at this point, and that's the truth.

Nah, it really isn't.

[-Jragon-]

We can't trade Middleton, the ceiling with him is the highest in the league. Bobby is the obvious trade and has been for years. He's just not a championship team type player but he would be a helluva tank commander/fan favorite or even a solid contributor on a fringe team.

The problem with Mids is he is not able to stay on the court anymore. That risk is no longer worth what we are paying him.

Mids would be playing if this were the playoffs. He's presently out with an injury he played through with last playoffs, and dominated.

We pay him for the playoffs, and if he played in the regular season, he'd be making $48 million instead of $31.

What amazing comedy

[msiris]

Mids has been hot garbage for 3-4 years now. Implying he makes a difference is laughable. He is a net negative on defense and at best a mid level scoring option on offense. AJ Green is probably a better fit at this point, and that's the truth.

Nah, it really isn't.

When Mids has played he has not been hot garbage. But the big word is When

[RogerMurdock]

Mids has been hot garbage for 3-4 years now. Implying he makes a difference is laughable. He is a net negative on defense and at best a mid level scoring option on offense. AJ Green is probably a better fit at this point, and that's the truth.

[fansinceforever]

We're a game above .500 with Boston and other good teams on the schedule. When will the urgency kick in for Midds to play?

The Bucks haven't really proven anything yet. The time to see what we have so we can make decisions before the deadline is right now.

[fansinceforever]

Well, there ya go. Apparently, they agree.

[raferfenix]

Interested to see what happens with minutes distribution with Khris coming back.

Does Bobby only play backup 5 with us Prince (or Khris) at the 4?

Does GTJ's clock get cut to a point he's unhappy?

Does Khris play backup PG and no more Delon Wright?

[Ron Swanson]

Terance Mann seems to have lost his starting spot with the Clips, and I wonder if a straight swap with Bobby would be beneficial to both teams.

[ShootingtheJ]

Terance Mann seems to have lost his starting spot with the Clips, and I wonder if a straight swap with Bobby would be beneficial to both teams.

Sorry, but he just broke a finger and is going to be out awhile.

I could definitely see the Clippers being interested in Bobby though. Bobby to the Clippers for the PJ Tucker expiring salary slot and draft compensation, that would be rerouted for someone we'd want. We could add our own 2031 1st to that and get a significant player.

[MiltownMadness]

good post but you forgot the most important part. khris is maybe the best fit next to giannis as any guy on planet earth.

if both those guys are dialed in its a 1 + 1 = 3 thing. we talked alot about bud being gone and how his systems gave the kind of gravity that made everybody else better. thats been gone to some degree the last several years and bud should get some credit but i think its also the fact that giannis/midds have been in and out so much that the role players have suffered. we have a different look every night and the guys dominating the ball still havent figured it all out. midds creates flow and slows things down and makes things easy for others even if hes making it look hard for himself.

dame is a stud but hes a 1a. as is giannis. to me they both seem to have absolutely no idea how to be a 1b let alone a 2 or 3 in a team concept

Midds acts both as a pressure release valve and force multiplier.

Having him off side for Dame/Brook action will be incredible

Mids has been hot garbage for 3-4 years now. Implying he makes a difference is laughable. He is a net negative on defense and at best a mid level scoring option on offense. AJ Green is probably a better fit at this point, and that's the truth.

Khris won us a chip and you are gonna make **** up and have that gross signature that is just stupid and not true? I'd hate to see how you treat people that don't do amazing things for you

[buckboy]

Bobby's been the obvious guy to deal since the Dame trade happened and we've all but exhausted all the discussion around it. At this point it's on Horst to finally pull the trigger, but one idea that I'll keep bringing up is he's maybe the one candidate on this roster that you don't necessarily have to get an immediate win-now asset back. Yes, he's a great regular season player still a cheap contract relative to his production. But those are precisely the reasons why you cash out now, not cling to his box score production until he becomes an old and overpaid, and even more of a situational playoff guy. Kings SI writer posited this trade back in October. Something worth discussing:

https://www.si.com/nba/kings/sacramento-kings-news/kings-swap-talented-rookie-bucks-big-man-mock-trade

Portis is set to make around $12.5 million this season with a player option of $13.4 million for next year. That $12.5 million fits like a glove in the Kings' $12.8 million MLE.

The Kings could send Devin Carter, the 13th overall pick in the 2024 NBA Draft, to make the money work and draft picks as needed to make the deal worth it for the Bucks.

It would be a huge gamble as Sacramento would lose a young promising player in Carter and lose flexibility around the luxury cap, but Portis is the exact type of player the Kings have been searching for for years.

I'd do that in an instant. I can't believe the Kings would.

Relatedly, I'd have zero interest in Murray. I've never seen it with him. Someone referred to him as poor man's Tobias Harris. That seems about right to me. And that's not a good player.

[buckboy]

good post but you forgot the most important part. khris is maybe the best fit next to giannis as any guy on planet earth.

if both those guys are dialed in its a 1 + 1 = 3 thing. we talked alot about bud being gone and how his systems gave the kind of gravity that made everybody else better. thats been gone to some degree the last several years and bud should get some credit but i think its also the fact that giannis/midds have been in and out so much that the role players have suffered. we have a different look every night and the guys dominating the ball still havent figured it all out. midds creates flow and slows things down and makes things easy for others even if hes making it look hard for himself.

dame is a stud but hes a 1a. as is giannis. to me they both seem to have absolutely no idea how to be a 1b let alone a 2 or 3 in a team concept

Midds acts both as a pressure release valve and force multiplier.

Having him off side for Dame/Brook action will be incredible

Mids has been hot garbage for 3-4 years now. Implying he makes a difference is laughable. He is a net negative on defense and at best a mid level scoring option on offense. AJ Green is probably a better fit at this point, and that's the truth.

DavidDunn burner.

This may be dumber than even his schtick.