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[KnixinSix]

We're better off just keeping Mitch if the other option is to trade multiple picks for a backup. At the end of the day, he would be KAT's backup.

Kessler nor Poeltl make any sense for this team, trading for a starting center to be a backup when there's an all-star MVP caliber center already on the team, with 3 backups makes no sense.

We will agree to disagree then.

The only decision this FO has to make is whether or not they believe Mitch can stay healthy or not.

If he can, he's the # 1 offensive rebounder in the league and a menace in the paint on defense. You do not need to nor should you want to replace healthy Mitch.

If the FO believes Mitch can get healthy, you keep him. If not, you trade him.

Mitch's record has clearly shown at this point he CAN'T stay healthy. Even when we get him back the pattern clearly shows he will not be on the floor for too many games before suffering another injury. Now his usage with Towns would be lower but you could keep him AND get a guy like Kessler who will 'only' cost 2FRPs or a prospect or two and 1FRP.

To me Kessler ensures you have elite rim protection depth for a team where that is really the only thing missing.

[KnixinSix]

About 50% give or take. So when he comes back at about game 40 , he play the next 40 or so. That might just work out well for us.

Or of course you trade Dadiet, Kolek and 2FRPs for Kessler

We can't afford Kessler.

I would expect Kessler’s camp to come to the negotiating table with eyes on a contract similar to Nic Claxton who signed a four-year, $97 million deal in Brooklyn this summer after averaging 12.3 points, 9.6 rebounds, and 2.3 blocks per game over the last two seasons.

Gotta let that thought go, he's going to get paid on his extension.

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Jonas is kinda a poor mans KAT. He ain't really a very good rim protector and therefore kinda redundant to what we have. Kessler is the guy we want.

If Utahs asking price is true (as per rumors) we can give two FRPs or a prospect package + 1FRP.

#bALL-in

[KnixinSix]

Credit to Brunson for adjusting his game with the arrival of Towns and the departure of Randle, which left a significant playmaking vacuum.

He started the season looking for his shot too much, and not looking for Towns enough. Then he seemed at times somewhat hesitant and not as sharp a scorer as last year, though it was never nearly as bad as some made it out to be. But it seems he's found the right balance with the new personnel around him in the last couple weeks.

1 additional assist per game and 3.6 (!) fewer FGAs a game compared to last season is a significant change and sacrifice for a player of his caliber.

It's a subtle but really strong display of leadership.

What a player he's become.

You didn’t think this post would make us forget about your thesis on franz being better than banchero only for him to lose by 30 did you

Scoring efficiency is a greatly underrated statistic and contributor to winning percentage.

I absolutely can see Chanel's point on Franz. If you have a guy shooting like 43% and scoring 24-26 a game, I'll take the guy shooting 50% playing better D and scoring 20-22 pts a game all day.

And thats not to say Magic won't be better when he comes back either. Thats a totally different argument.

[jvsimonetti0514]

They must think Mitch is washed if they’re looking at other bigs at the trade deadline. Feels like we’re in desperate need of a bench wing more than a big.

[3toheadmelo]

Credit to Brunson for adjusting his game with the arrival of Towns and the departure of Randle, which left a significant playmaking vacuum.

He started the season looking for his shot too much, and not looking for Towns enough. Then he seemed at times somewhat hesitant and not as sharp a scorer as last year, though it was never nearly as bad as some made it out to be. But it seems he's found the right balance with the new personnel around him in the last couple weeks.

1 additional assist per game and 3.6 (!) fewer FGAs a game compared to last season is a significant change and sacrifice for a player of his caliber.

It's a subtle but really strong display of leadership.

What a player he's become.

You didn’t think this post would make us forget about your thesis on franz being better than banchero only for him to lose by 30 did you

[KnixinSix]

They must think Mitch is washed if they’re looking at other bigs at the trade deadline. Feels like we’re in desperate need of a bench wing more than a big.

Our deuce cam lineup has a pretty good net rating..we need the elite rim protector more than the wing.

[NiceLikeChrist]

We need more bench production and shot creation in the guard and wing position off the bench. Once precious and Mitch are back we will have a decent 4/5 rotation.

Right now our bench is cheeks because it’s literally just cam Payne and deuce and if they aren’t lighting it up then we’re good for like 15-20 bench points at most. He runs an 8 man rotation in any game that is moderately close and one of those is sims who is allergic to double digit scoring.

If we could trade some guys for a serviceable wing then that would open up our bench a lot more

Payne
Deuce
????
Precious
Mitch/Sims

[KnixinSix]

We need more bench production and shot creation in the guard and wing position off the bench. Once precious and Mitch are back we will have a decent 4/5 rotation.

Right now our bench is cheeks because it’s literally just cam Payne and deuce and if they aren’t lighting it up then we’re good for like 15-20 bench points at most. He runs an 8 man rotation in any game that is moderately close and one of those is sims who is allergic to double digit scoring.

If we could trade some guys for a serviceable wing then that would open up our bench a lot more

Payne
Deuce
????
Precious
Mitch/Sims

When Precious comes back we have a 4/5 that will also limit Sims minutes a bit more.
When Mitch comes back Sims minutes go to 0.

The problem with Mitch is health consistency. When he gets hurt it always seems to be major injuries with lots of rehab. He is getting older and not younger and that stuff generally tends to get worse as you age.

Therefore with his risk level if you get Kessler it gives you a younger much less injury prone elite rim protector for Thibs defense.

Mitch will be returning (in theory) around the trade deadline. If another wing is really desired we can potentially trade Mitch to a team that wants better rim protection for a wing. We are in championship contender mode now that is a place where you are agressive in trades yet try to minimize risk with your roster as much as possible.

[thebuzzardman]

We need more bench production and shot creation in the guard and wing position off the bench. Once precious and Mitch are back we will have a decent 4/5 rotation.

Right now our bench is cheeks because it’s literally just cam Payne and deuce and if they aren’t lighting it up then we’re good for like 15-20 bench points at most. He runs an 8 man rotation in any game that is moderately close and one of those is sims who is allergic to double digit scoring.

If we could trade some guys for a serviceable wing then that would open up our bench a lot more

Payne
Deuce
McCullar
Precious
Mitch/Sims

[jvsimonetti0514]

They must think Mitch is washed if they’re looking at other bigs at the trade deadline. Feels like we’re in desperate need of a bench wing more than a big.

Our deuce cam lineup has a pretty good net rating..we need the elite rim protector more than the wing.

Thibs is running an 8 man rotation cuz he doesn’t trust Matt Ryan or Dadiet to play. Not mention Sims opponent field goal % at the rim is less than 40%. Or at least that’s what it was before the Magic game. Which leads me back to my original post cuz Mitch is an elite shot blocker on a good contract! They’re signaling to everyone that they think things are worse for Mitch than we all expect.

[CharlesOakley]

I was never a fan of Julius Randle in a Knicks uniform. His lack of effort on the defensive end, his whirling dervish turnovers, his pouting and ball stopping were too much for me. Add the fact that he pooped the bed every playoffs and I was happy to get rid of him. I never wanted KAT when that idea was first being floated. He seemed soft, poor defender and kind of a bone head so it seemed like a lateral move with a higher price tag.

So far, he has shined. He is so much more of a dynamic player than Randle. His shooting is incredible, he is a ball mover, he bangs on the blocks at lot more than I expected, he's kept the bad turnovers to a minimum and he gives effort on defense. He generates so much more space by being a real threat at the 3-point line and by playing center.

I'm starting to think who ever runs the T-Wolves is a moron.

[BKlutch]

We're better off just keeping Mitch if the other option is to trade multiple picks for a backup. At the end of the day, he would be KAT's backup.

Kessler nor Poeltl make any sense for this team, trading for a starting center to be a backup when there's an all-star MVP caliber center already on the team, with 3 backups makes no sense.

We will agree to disagree then.

The only decision this FO has to make is whether or not they believe Mitch can stay healthy or not.

If he can, he's the # 1 offensive rebounder in the league and a menace in the paint on defense. You do not need to nor should you want to replace healthy Mitch.

If the FO believes Mitch can get healthy, you keep him. If not, you trade him.

I’d expect fewer opportunities for O Rebs because we don’t miss as many shots. But enough left for Mitch.

[Spree2Houston]

I was never a fan of Julius Randle in a Knicks uniform. His lack of effort on the defensive end, his whirling dervish turnovers, his pouting and ball stopping were too much for me. Add the fact that he pooped the bed every playoffs and I was happy to get rid of him. I never wanted KAT when that idea was first being floated. He seemed soft, poor defender and kind of a bone head so it seemed like a lateral move with a higher price tag.

So far, he has shined. He is so much more of a dynamic player than Randle. His shooting is incredible, he is a ball mover, he bangs on the blocks at lot more than I expected, he's kept the bad turnovers to a minimum and he gives effort on defense. He generates so much more space by being a real threat at the 3-point line and by playing center.

I'm starting to think who ever runs the T-Wolves is a moron.

They didn't want to trade KAT. But they had to because of potential Cap issues stemming from the new CBA. We're very fortunate to have him.

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[stuporman]

Going to read some cope in the Magic gamethread is fun and a little frustrating because I really want to address their crap takes but know it would earn me an instaban. They just watched a game where KAT beat up their whole front line and still calling him charmin soft is supa delulu.

[Guano]

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I dont know why we don't spam that PnR like the rockets did with Harden and PJ. How tf do you even stop that -especially with our wings.

[Context]

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