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Post#41 » by Brewhoopfan » Thu Dec 5, 2024 3:17 pm

BigO wrote:I didn't watch the game, but the box score is something you don't see very often:

Hawks shot just 43% overall and 28% on threes. Bucks were about the same, but a little better on threes. Yet the Hawks won going away.

The Hawks got off 25 more shots and had 15 more rebounds.


Hawks played harder (rebounds) and smarter (turnovers). That will almost always = loss.
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Post#42 » by fansinceforever » Thu Dec 5, 2024 3:23 pm

Willing to write this one off as back to back laziness and an athletic team playing to their strengths. That said, if the losses start to stack up to these good teams, the energy around here will turn sour again.
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Post#43 » by CharityStripe34 » Thu Dec 5, 2024 4:35 pm

Horrible turnovers and getting killed on the glass sealed their fate. On to Boston.

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Re: PG Hawks: Loss 

Post#44 » by BigO » Thu Dec 5, 2024 4:45 pm

Brewhoopfan wrote:
BigO wrote:I didn't watch the game, but the box score is something you don't see very often:

Hawks shot just 43% overall and 28% on threes. Bucks were about the same, but a little better on threes. Yet the Hawks won going away.

The Hawks got off 25 more shots and had 15 more rebounds.


Hawks played harder (rebounds) and smarter (turnovers). That will almost always = loss.


Two things Bud was a stickler for were defensive rebounding and allowing fast break points.

Under Bud, the Bucks were at the top of those two categories.

The Bucks are near the bottom of allowing fast break points and in the middle of rebounding.
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Post#45 » by MiltownMadness » Thu Dec 5, 2024 5:04 pm

Those Bobby minutes in the first half (all game) completely owned us. We played them even in the 2nd half, had an early lead of 12 or so, then Bobby came in and we were down 10 in 7 minutes. You can't play Bobby against athletic teams or you just bleed offensive rebounds and shots at the rim. (can you play Bobby vs. any team? He seriously sucks this year and on this team)

The damage was done after the initial Bobby stint as we didn't have the legs to make open shots. Delon is awful as well, a complete negative in every facet offensively...maybe a worse offensive player than AJJ
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Post#46 » by MiltownMadness » Thu Dec 5, 2024 5:07 pm

Not trading Bobby last year is gonna go down as a big mistake for Horst, I don't think he has any value right now and don't see a lane for him to regain value on this team unless we want to bleed Ls
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Post#47 » by Dick Tate » Thu Dec 5, 2024 6:16 pm

MiltownMadness wrote:Not trading Bobby last year is gonna go down as a big mistake for Horst, I don't think he has any value right now and don't see a lane for him to regain value on this team unless we want to bleed Ls

If Bobby couldn't pull Grant Williams, did he really have that much value last year?
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Post#48 » by Bernman » Thu Dec 5, 2024 6:20 pm

Dick Tate wrote:If Bobby couldn't pull Grant Williams, did he really have that much value last year?


What do you mean? The Bucks turned that down. And it may have also included a sweetener.
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Post#49 » by MiltownMadness » Thu Dec 5, 2024 6:24 pm

Yeah, I remember most on here being against that trade tbh. Healthy Grant Williams would be awesome on this team in place of Bobby
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Post#50 » by Dick Tate » Thu Dec 5, 2024 6:28 pm

Bernman wrote:
Dick Tate wrote:If Bobby couldn't pull Grant Williams, did he really have that much value last year?


What do you mean? The Bucks turned that down. And it may have also included a sweetener.

I thought it was a done deal until Charlotte came in with a better offer?
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Post#51 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 1:47 am

MiltownMadness wrote:Yeah, I remember most on here being against that trade tbh. Healthy Grant Williams would be awesome on this team in place of Bobby

Dude is on the no way, no how, never ever no matter what list for me.
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Post#52 » by MiltownMadness » Fri Dec 6, 2024 3:11 am

jakecronus8 wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Yeah, I remember most on here being against that trade tbh. Healthy Grant Williams would be awesome on this team in place of Bobby

Dude is on the no way, no how, never ever no matter what list for me.

I don't look at sports like that, if they can help my team I want them...barring they are legit a terrible person. Williams is just annoying on the basketball court, I don't care about stuff like that. If he made you feel that way by facing him then he is actually someone you really want on your team. All mute after his knee injury though.

Pat Bev is the most annoying basketball player imaginable, I welcomed him with open arms because he would help the team
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Re: PG Hawks: Loss 

Post#53 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Dec 6, 2024 3:37 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Yeah, I remember most on here being against that trade tbh. Healthy Grant Williams would be awesome on this team in place of Bobby

Dude is on the no way, no how, never ever no matter what list for me.

I don't look at sports like that, if they can help my team I want them...barring they are legit a terrible person. Williams is just annoying on the basketball court, I don't care about stuff like that. If he made you feel that way by facing him then he is actually someone you really want on your team. All mute after his knee injury though.

Pat Bev is the most annoying basketball player imaginable, I welcomed him with open arms because he would help the team


Grant Williams is bad, and his teammates everywhere hate him.

Guys who can't dribble or pass become liabilities in the playoffs.

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