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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1301 » by Besart19 » Thu Dec 5, 2024 8:51 pm

aggo wrote:Go get AD


if you get AD you need to trade Mikal for a traditional SG or pray for Mikal become our Reggie Miller both shooting wise and off the ball movement (running through and off the back of the screens)

Mitch and Bridges or Mitch, Hart and Achiuwa… plus 2 picks and 2 swaps… 4-peat

Davis / Hukporti
Towns / Achiuwa
Anunony / Hart
McBride / Shamet
Brunson / Payne

or

Davis / Hukporti / Sims
Towns / Dadiet / Warren
Anunoby / Shamet / Ryan
Bridges / McBride / McCullar
Brunson / Payne / Kolek
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Post#1302 » by JayTWill » Thu Dec 5, 2024 9:56 pm

Where are the Knicks getting all these first round picks to trade that I see some guys posting? Isn't the only available "first" the Knicks can trade the protected Wizards "first" that has a good chance of being 2 second round picks unless they quickly turn things around next year?
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Post#1303 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Dec 5, 2024 10:53 pm

JayTWill wrote:Where are the Knicks getting all these first round picks to trade that I see some guys posting? Isn't the only available "first" the Knicks can trade the protected Wizards "first" that has a good chance of being 2 second round picks unless they quickly turn things around next year?


:dontknow: The magical mystery fantasy trade picks that erase all of the cap/apron rules as well. They also mesmerize the opposing GM into taking whatever we offer while giving us the best possible deal imaginable. Those are the best picks to trade!
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1304 » by aggo » Fri Dec 6, 2024 12:30 am

Go get Embiid
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Post#1305 » by KnickFan33 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 8:11 pm

What are the chances of the Pacers keeping Myles Turner in the offseason? Have to figure he’s going to be a hot commodity, and they might not want to lose him for nothing. Do we have anything outside of the starters to pry him away?
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Post#1306 » by aggo » Fri Dec 6, 2024 9:43 pm

Go get Lonzo
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Post#1307 » by Besart19 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 11:52 pm

no need to make a trade… we are all set (if Mitch can stay healthy)… otherwise trade him for a solid C who would play solid minutes all the time

Towns / Robinson
Anunoby / Achiuwa
Bridges / Shamet
Hart / McBride
Brunson / Payne

and we shouldnt forget that we have already 4 great prospects in the roster! McCullar would suprise us all
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Post#1308 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:43 am

aggo wrote:Go get VD
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Post#1309 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:45 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
Melo was never a selfish player… but being that talented its not easy to trust scrubs like most of his teamates have been during his whole career…

Having a PG like Brunson and a bigman like KAT would make Melo a triple double machine! Also he always played defense when he had fun and not being depressed by Kevin Seraphins and Jose Calderons around

He’d be a champion next to either of them. A big three would seal it. I agree.


Dude is 48 years old and we are still in here talking about "if he was on this team"? :rofl:


Before last season dudes were suggesting we were going to bring Melo back as some kind of sixth man. The delusion was off the hook.
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Post#1310 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:47 am

ctorres wrote:OG's value is getting higher with every game

If the Knicks could get Lebron from the Lakers for OG without giving up Brunson, Hart, Bridges, and Towns, would you consider it?

I think if the Lakers and Lebron mutually consider that a trade is what is best for both parties, then I feel the Lakers would go for a new all-star defensive stud wing/4 to pair with AD and maybe a role player or two from the Knicks.

What if this year is the only year you can make the trade?

Right now, our hopes are riding on this starting lineup staying healthy and winning a championship together.

How would the rest of the guys' egos handle Lebron getting all the glory for winning his 5th championship if we did somehow trade OG for Lebron?

How would Lebron drastically alter his role to fit with the rest of the guys and play with arguably the most close-to-perfect starting lineup ever?

Very few teams where a Lebron trade is feasible. Knicks would make sense here. A Warriors trade for Lebron could have happened last year if Lebron wanted it. The Warriors were ready to do it.


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Post#1311 » by SuperflyKnick » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:50 am

Just get someone from the buyout market should be plenty of ring chasers waived after trades or bought out
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Post#1312 » by Riot Randolph » Sat Dec 7, 2024 4:07 am

Mitch + what = timelord
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Post#1313 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 7, 2024 4:53 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:He’d be a champion next to either of them. A big three would seal it. I agree.


Dude is 48 years old and we are still in here talking about "if he was on this team"? :rofl:


Before last season dudes were suggesting we were going to bring Melo back as some kind of sixth man. The delusion was off the hook.


Melo destroyed this fan base. I'm not going back into this discussion.

We are seeing the best run team in all of our lives that didn't see the championship teams. Even those of us who watched 15 years of Ewing fall short. This team is better than anything I have ever seen. The vaunted history is bullshyt. We have been garbage for 30 of the last 50 years. This team is closer than any team we have seen. Why listen to Melo and woj and whoever or whatever?

No group of players has ever sacrificed or appreciated the situation they were in like this one has. For 25 years we have watched scrubs from every other team go off in the Garden. The Bucks won their first title in 50 years before we did. Cleveland. GSW. Dynasty. The Mavs. The Heat.

I truly believe we can beat anyone fully healthy. I haven't felt this way since 1999. We could win a title this season. Right?
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Post#1314 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 7, 2024 4:55 am

aggo wrote:Go get Lonzo


Ok. At some point you have to realize where the line was crossed. This is that moment
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Post#1315 » by robillionaire » Sat Dec 7, 2024 5:39 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Dude is 48 years old and we are still in here talking about "if he was on this team"? :rofl:


Before last season dudes were suggesting we were going to bring Melo back as some kind of sixth man. The delusion was off the hook.


Melo destroyed this fan base. I'm not going back into this discussion.

We are seeing the best run team in all of our lives that didn't see the championship teams. Even those of us who watched 15 years of Ewing fall short. This team is better than anything I have ever seen. The vaunted history is bullshyt. We have been garbage for 30 of the last 50 years. This team is closer than any team we have seen. Why listen to Melo and woj and whoever or whatever?

No group of players has ever sacrificed or appreciated the situation they were in like this one has. For 25 years we have watched scrubs from every other team go off in the Garden. The Bucks won their first title in 50 years before we did. Cleveland. GSW. Dynasty. The Mavs. The Heat.

I truly believe we can beat anyone fully healthy. I haven't felt this way since 1999. We could win a title this season. Right?


We are 3 wins away from being the 2nd team to ever win the nba cup championship so let’s see how that goes
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Post#1316 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Dec 7, 2024 5:59 am

robillionaire wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Before last season dudes were suggesting we were going to bring Melo back as some kind of sixth man. The delusion was off the hook.


Melo destroyed this fan base. I'm not going back into this discussion.

We are seeing the best run team in all of our lives that didn't see the championship teams. Even those of us who watched 15 years of Ewing fall short. This team is better than anything I have ever seen. The vaunted history is bullshyt. We have been garbage for 30 of the last 50 years. This team is closer than any team we have seen. Why listen to Melo and woj and whoever or whatever?

No group of players has ever sacrificed or appreciated the situation they were in like this one has. For 25 years we have watched scrubs from every other team go off in the Garden. The Bucks won their first title in 50 years before we did. Cleveland. GSW. Dynasty. The Mavs. The Heat.

I truly believe we can beat anyone fully healthy. I haven't felt this way since 1999. We could win a title this season. Right?


We are 3 wins away from being the 2nd team to ever win the nba cup championship so let’s see how that goes


Bro...we are posting together for over a decade of garbage. We have seen how everything goes. Right now...we are one of the best teams we have ever seen. I'm loving it. I have confidence this could be our time. It's really the best collection of talent I think I have ever seen. 39 years as a fan. Let's do this shyt! I don't remember a single reason for Knicks fans to unite in 25 years. Until now. This team is what we have all been waiting for since Wingo masturbated for the first time.

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Post#1317 » by ctorres » Sat Dec 7, 2024 8:54 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
ctorres wrote:OG's value is getting higher with every game

If the Knicks could get Lebron from the Lakers for OG without giving up Brunson, Hart, Bridges, and Towns, would you consider it?

I think if the Lakers and Lebron mutually consider that a trade is what is best for both parties, then I feel the Lakers would go for a new all-star defensive stud wing/4 to pair with AD and maybe a role player or two from the Knicks.

What if this year is the only year you can make the trade?

Right now, our hopes are riding on this starting lineup staying healthy and winning a championship together.

How would the rest of the guys' egos handle Lebron getting all the glory for winning his 5th championship if we did somehow trade OG for Lebron?

How would Lebron drastically alter his role to fit with the rest of the guys and play with arguably the most close-to-perfect starting lineup ever?

Very few teams where a Lebron trade is feasible. Knicks would make sense here. A Warriors trade for Lebron could have happened last year if Lebron wanted it. The Warriors were ready to do it.


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Post#1318 » by KnixinSix » Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:27 pm

I honestly believe our main target will be a rim protector first and foremost.

Kessler or Richards or Poetl. Kessler and Richards also could allow us to hold on to Mitch for another trade since their salaries are so low (unless we combine and do like a Cody Martin and Richards for Mitch and a FRP type deal)


Depth is better thought of as what does each guy bring and what do you need the most.

Right now what we have the least depth in by far is elite rim protection. And the one guy healthy that approaches that is so bad at everything else that its like playing 4 on 5 when he is on the court (Sims).

The other one that gives us that is Mitch and even if/when he makes it back his injury proneness is a huge risk for how long he will stay on the court.

I get the clamor for the additional wing. However the elite rim protector that can play at least a touch of offense (or better) is the much bigger need.
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Post#1319 » by BowlRips » Sat Dec 7, 2024 2:54 pm

I don’t think it’s a rim protector
I think in an ideal world - you would trade Mitch for a wing preferably a big one.

I think Precious backing up the 5 and Sims as the third center is sufficient behind Towns. I can’t see the Knicks significantly altering their style of play the last 21 games with a slow moving rim protector next to Towns in the front court.

And clearly there’s no one Thibs trust as a backup wing with Mikal and OG regularly topping 40mins a night.

And based on where they are with the 2nd apron, it’s going to have to be someone who makes $15m ish.


Maybe something like

Mitch to Sacramento
DFS to NY
Trey Lyles, Keon Ellis and Detroit 1st to BK

I think a playoff bench of Achiuwa, DFS, McBride and Cam Payne with Sims and hopefully Shamet as 10 and 11 would be nice

Any other thoughts on this potential wing?

Nance but he’s more a big
Huerter but he’s more of a 2
Herb Jones but he’s prob too expensive
Grant Williams - more of a 4/5
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Post#1320 » by BowlRips » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:01 pm

KnixinSix wrote:I honestly believe our main target will be a rim protector first and foremost.

Kessler or Richards or Poetl. Kessler and Richards also could allow us to hold on to Mitch for another trade since their salaries are so low (unless we combine and do like a Cody Martin and Richards for Mitch and a FRP type deal)


Depth is better thought of as what does each guy bring and what do you need the most.

Right now what we have the least depth in by far is elite rim protection. And the one guy healthy that approaches that is so bad at everything else that its like playing 4 on 5 when he is on the court (Sims).

The other one that gives us that is Mitch and even if/when he makes it back his injury proneness is a huge risk for how long he will stay on the court.

I get the clamor for the additional wing. However the elite rim protector that can play at least a touch of offense (or better) is the much bigger need.


lol I just wrote a post saying the opposite. The problem with another big is how do you find the minutes if you’re trying to maximize 5-out?

Was thinking of it terms of when Mitch is back.. but rotation wise I was thinking…

Mitch and Deuce come in for KAT and Hart at the 5 minute mark

Mitch
OG
Mikal
Deuce
Brunson

KAT Achiuwa Payne come in for Mitch OG and Brunson at the 2 minute mark.

KAT
Achiuwa
Bridges
Deuce
Payne

Hart comes in for Bridges at the start of the 2nd (is there enough shooting?)

KAT
Achiuwa
Hart
Deuce
Payne

And eventually sub in the starters and sit KAT for a few minutes at some point in the second?

It’s clunky

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