Shwaguy wrote:Scizzup wrote:Shwaguy wrote:
He's more likely to be a bus driver than Chet is. Scottie is an above average defender by a sizeable measure, and Chet is not a generational defender. Throwing that word around way too easily. If we had Chet or JWill instead of Barnes and Barnes was on OKC we would be lusting after Barnes and lamenting why we have JWill or Chet instead just like you're doing right now.
Why do you think that? you can be a bus driver as a defender. KG was a bus driver same with Bill Russell. I don't think Chet will be as good as KG but his defense might get close. he switches well on D and he is already posting all time rim protection numbers lol.
I think its much likely for Chet to be the best or most impactful player on a title contender than Barnes. Garnett was the bus driver for 08 Boston, they won because of defense. Barnes will never be a bus driver because his offense will never be good enough and he is not an elite defender. OKC was posting by far best defense in NBA history relative to league average with chet.
30/30 GMS will pick Chet over Barnes, including Massai.
Edit: Wemby is going to be same, he is going to be a bus driver due to his defense not because of his offense. He is mostly a play finisher. Chet is a worse version of him.
Scottie is a lot closer to KG than Chet is. KG was an amazing playmaker. Barnes is an elite defender, and his offence projects better than Chet's does.
You are assuming every single thing will break the right way for Chet, and assuming nothing will break the right way for Scottie. Your bias from thinking the grass is always greener on the other side is showing. It is easier to develop a 3pt shot than it is to develop yourself into being a creator and a playmaker.
The insinuation that 30/30 GMs are picking Chet is also not one I agree with and this argument is heavily built your own conjecture and no actual source of logic.
underrating Scottie in every facet and overrating Chet in every facet is an easy way to attempt to skew an argument in your favour but it doesn't work here.
I am talking about impact.. Chet is closer to KG when it comes to impact. He is already posting 99% percentile defensive metrics in the league. Barnes offensive impact is not close to that.
If you give me 20/10 60% TS and 4 stocks a game. And we blow out teams by +12 when you are on the court why should it matter if you not a primary scorer lol. At the end of the day its all about the totality of your impact.
I am not underrating him, Scottie is good but he has to show more on offense for these talks. Chet is already proving he can be a multi DPOY level player and he is not even close to his best. He was a top 10 defender as a rookie.
If Ben Wallace was as good as current Chet on offense, Detriot would have won two rings and he would have been the bus driver for those teams. Unless you have a weird definition for bus driver, to me it's just most important player. I never said Chet was going to be the best scorer.
