Ayton: Post Suns Haters

[SlovenianDragon]

Ya'll still talk about the ex GF from HS. Be better. This is pathetic this thread is still going. Sad bunch of adults

Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequence of my own actions....

[kennydorglas]

Oh wow I'm so surprised lol.

[sunsbum]

Ya'll still talk about the ex GF from HS. Be better. This is pathetic this thread is still going. Sad bunch of adults

We’re just here standing on mt. “We were right”. NBD. It’s ok to be wrong doubleD. It just wasn’t us this time

[bwgood77]

Ya'll still talk about the ex GF from HS. Be better. This is pathetic this thread is still going. Sad bunch of adults

We’re just here standing on mt. “We were right”. NBD. It’s ok to be wrong doubleD. It just wasn’t us this time

Well, as disappointing as Ayton was, we certainly haven't been a better team since he's been gone. Not saying it's related at all but kind of weird to discuss it that much.

But I guess we gotta try to be happy about something.

[garrick]

Ya'll still talk about the ex GF from HS. Be better. This is pathetic this thread is still going. Sad bunch of adults

We’re just here standing on mt. “We were right”. NBD. It’s ok to be wrong doubleD. It just wasn’t us this time

Well, as disappointing as Ayton was, we certainly haven't been a better team since he's been gone. Not saying it's related at all but kind of weird to discuss it that much.

But I guess we gotta try to be happy about something.

It's pure cope and deflection. Ayton isn't on this team for 2 seasons now and if we fail to win a championship that is on the front office.

[KdoubleDees23]

Ya'll still talk about the ex GF from HS. Be better. This is pathetic this thread is still going. Sad bunch of adults

We’re just here standing on mt. “We were right”. NBD. It’s ok to be wrong doubleD. It just wasn’t us this time

Well, as disappointing as Ayton was, we certainly haven't been a better team since he's been gone. Not saying it's related at all but kind of weird to discuss it that much.

But I guess we gotta try to be happy about something.

Ayton took us the the NBA Finals - and was a big part of that team.

What has KD done? Nurkic done? You guys saying this dude sucks, but he was part of one of the best Suns teams we have had, and had us closest to our first NBA final then any of the Suns teams! I will always respect that from him

[sunsbum]

We’re just here standing on mt. “We were right”. NBD. It’s ok to be wrong doubleD. It just wasn’t us this time

Well, as disappointing as Ayton was, we certainly haven't been a better team since he's been gone. Not saying it's related at all but kind of weird to discuss it that much.

But I guess we gotta try to be happy about something.

Ayton took us the the NBA Finals - and was a big part of that team.

What has KD done? Nurkic done? You guys saying this dude sucks, but he was part of one of the best Suns teams we have had, and had us closest to our first NBA final then any of the Suns teams! I will always respect that from him

KD has won Championships, Gold Medals, MVP's, ALL NBA awards and when hes done will probably be one of the top 5 greatest players to ever pick up a basketball. Ayton was a part of one of the biggest finals collapses in NBA history. Cool story.

[KdoubleDees23]

Well, as disappointing as Ayton was, we certainly haven't been a better team since he's been gone. Not saying it's related at all but kind of weird to discuss it that much.

But I guess we gotta try to be happy about something.

Ayton took us the the NBA Finals - and was a big part of that team.

What has KD done? Nurkic done? You guys saying this dude sucks, but he was part of one of the best Suns teams we have had, and had us closest to our first NBA final then any of the Suns teams! I will always respect that from him

KD has won Championships, Gold Medals, MVP's, ALL NBA awards and when hes done will probably be one of the top 5 greatest players to ever pick up a basketball. Ayton was a part of one of the biggest finals collapses in NBA history. Cool story.

Cool story. Did he do that for the Suns?

[bwgood77]

Ayton took us the the NBA Finals - and was a big part of that team.

What has KD done? Nurkic done? You guys saying this dude sucks, but he was part of one of the best Suns teams we have had, and had us closest to our first NBA final then any of the Suns teams! I will always respect that from him

KD has won Championships, Gold Medals, MVP's, ALL NBA awards and when hes done will probably be one of the top 5 greatest players to ever pick up a basketball. Ayton was a part of one of the biggest finals collapses in NBA history. Cool story.

Cool story. Did he do that for the Suns?

He rode the coattails with the championship Warriors who had also set the record for most wins ever (kind of like our pre-KD Suns team did for a Suns record) after that historic choke job blowing a 3-1 lead OKC had over GS in the playoffs. He did win one MVP, like Iverson did. Though he was good in the olympics on an NBA all star team vs mostly non NBA competition.

KD is awesome. But yeah, he hasn't led the Suns anywhere. He puts up good #s as always though. He certainly won't be a top 5 player of all time. I think you have to be a clear cut leader of a championship team to get in the top 10 or so. He is a great regular season player though and had some great playoff games.

Obviously he's miles ahead of Ayton, but after our ridiculous overpay in a trade for the aging injury prone Durant, our team has been a massive disappointment. We went all in for a chip with by far the highest payroll, only to get swept in the first round. Hopefully things turn out better this year.

As for Ayton, I do think he would have played better in a Bud offense, or even under Vogel, after seeing how Beal has bought into defense for him. He also would have had so much space operating on offense in a Bud offense. With Portland his stats are worse but they are a horrid 3 pt shooting team without spacing, so he has no space to operate. Bud would have him focusing on efficient offense and contesting shots...like he did with Lopez. but a far better rebounder and worse shot blocker, maybe with fewer 3s since Ayton had the master midrange game.

Ayton obviously has some big issues, but a lot of that really surfaced after he became a scapegoat for Book, Monty, fans, etc, and his confidence started to erode.

At that point, we were best off trading him, but perhaps it never should have gotten to that point, and if we were going to trade him, we should have done so sooner when we could have gotten a better return. Or waited for a better one to emerge. We may not have gotten a seemingly better trade then, but Nurkic obviously isn't the answer and Grayson has regressed. And where it the complaining bout Nurkic not dunking, especially when he is FAR worse finishing inside? He has far worse games than Ayt0n had. When he has a good game it's such a nice thing, where Ayton had a lot of him and the focus was always on those bad games every few games.

His impact on games eroded though in his last year, though the whole team was injured in his final year except him and Bridges, which obviously hurt that.

Ayton clearly has

[sunsbum]

KD has won Championships, Gold Medals, MVP's, ALL NBA awards and when hes done will probably be one of the top 5 greatest players to ever pick up a basketball. Ayton was a part of one of the biggest finals collapses in NBA history. Cool story.

Cool story. Did he do that for the Suns?

He rode the coattails with the championship Warriors who had also set the record for most wins ever (kind of like our pre-KD Suns team did for a Suns record) after that historic choke job blowing a 3-1 lead OKC had over GS in the playoffs. He did win one MVP, like Iverson did. Though he was good in the olympics on an NBA all star team vs mostly non NBA competition.

KD is awesome. But yeah, he hasn't led the Suns anywhere. He puts up good #s as always though. He certainly won't be a top 5 player of all time. I think you have to be a clear cut leader of a championship team to get in the top 10 or so. He is a great regular season player though and had some great playoff games.

Obviously he's miles ahead of Ayton, but after our ridiculous overpay in a trade for the aging injury prone Durant, our team has been a massive disappointment. We went all in for a chip with by far the highest payroll, only to get swept in the first round. Hopefully things turn out better this year.

As for Ayton, I do think he would have played better in a Bud offense, or even under Vogel, after seeing how Beal has bought into defense for him. He also would have had so much space operating on offense in a Bud offense. With Portland his stats are worse but they are a horrid 3 pt shooting team without spacing, so he has no space to operate. Bud would have him focusing on efficient offense and contesting shots...like he did with Lopez. but a far better rebounder and worse shot blocker, maybe with fewer 3s since Ayton had the master midrange game.

Ayton obviously has some big issues, but a lot of that really surfaced after he became a scapegoat for Book, Monty, fans, etc, and his confidence started to erode.

At that point, we were best off trading him, but perhaps it never should have gotten to that point, and if we were going to trade him, we should have done so sooner when we could have gotten a better return. Or waited for a better one to emerge. We may not have gotten a seemingly better trade then, but Nurkic obviously isn't the answer and Grayson has regressed. And where it the complaining bout Nurkic not dunking, especially when he is FAR worse finishing inside? He has far worse games than Ayt0n had. When he has a good game it's such a nice thing, where Ayton had a lot of him and the focus was always on those bad games every few games.

His impact on games eroded though in his last year, though the whole team was injured in his final year except him and Bridges, which obviously hurt that.

Ayton clearly has

Ayton is absolute garbage, you can write a book, docu series, whatever you want. Nothing will change that fact. The dude has regressed on a worse team, and some how still has apologists like you at his side. Funny to watch someone try do dismantle what KD has done in the NBA while white knighting for ayton of all people.

[bwgood77]

Cool story. Did he do that for the Suns?

He rode the coattails with the championship Warriors who had also set the record for most wins ever (kind of like our pre-KD Suns team did for a Suns record) after that historic choke job blowing a 3-1 lead OKC had over GS in the playoffs. He did win one MVP, like Iverson did. Though he was good in the olympics on an NBA all star team vs mostly non NBA competition.

KD is awesome. But yeah, he hasn't led the Suns anywhere. He puts up good #s as always though. He certainly won't be a top 5 player of all time. I think you have to be a clear cut leader of a championship team to get in the top 10 or so. He is a great regular season player though and had some great playoff games.

Obviously he's miles ahead of Ayton, but after our ridiculous overpay in a trade for the aging injury prone Durant, our team has been a massive disappointment. We went all in for a chip with by far the highest payroll, only to get swept in the first round. Hopefully things turn out better this year.

As for Ayton, I do think he would have played better in a Bud offense, or even under Vogel, after seeing how Beal has bought into defense for him. He also would have had so much space operating on offense in a Bud offense. With Portland his stats are worse but they are a horrid 3 pt shooting team without spacing, so he has no space to operate. Bud would have him focusing on efficient offense and contesting shots...like he did with Lopez. but a far better rebounder and worse shot blocker, maybe with fewer 3s since Ayton had the master midrange game.

Ayton obviously has some big issues, but a lot of that really surfaced after he became a scapegoat for Book, Monty, fans, etc, and his confidence started to erode.

At that point, we were best off trading him, but perhaps it never should have gotten to that point, and if we were going to trade him, we should have done so sooner when we could have gotten a better return. Or waited for a better one to emerge. We may not have gotten a seemingly better trade then, but Nurkic obviously isn't the answer and Grayson has regressed. And where it the complaining bout Nurkic not dunking, especially when he is FAR worse finishing inside? He has far worse games than Ayt0n had. When he has a good game it's such a nice thing, where Ayton had a lot of him and the focus was always on those bad games every few games.

His impact on games eroded though in his last year, though the whole team was injured in his final year except him and Bridges, which obviously hurt that.

Ayton clearly has

Ayton is absolute garbage, you can write a book, docu series, whatever you want. Nothing will change that fact. The dude has regressed on a worse team, and some how still has apologists like you at his side. Funny to watch someone try do dismantle what KD has done in the NBA while white knighting for ayton of all people.

Ayton is not good, but being on a worse team doesn't mean he should be better. Not when you work in the middle and midrange and a team is horrible at 3 pt shooting.

KD is great. But he has also never been the best player/leader on any NBA team that won a championship. GS saved his reputation in one sense, but joining a championship team is the easy road. People talk about people joining teams just to win a ring.

But, yes, of course he is miles better than Ayton, and Ayton sucks at a lot of things, but our team hasn't been better since he left, don't have a better C overall, and who attracts defenders to get the others more open shots, etc. Defense became a weakness after it being a strength, but he certainly wasn't nearly as bad as people make it seem. But he is very frustrating at times.

I have also provided counter points and facts. I don't just constantly rag on players like many do here. Particularly players that have been gone 2 years. It's bizarre.

[sunsbum]

I have also provided counter points and facts. I don't just constantly rag on players like many do here. Particularly players that have been gone 2 years. It's bizarre.

And yet you've posted in the most hated suns thread. We all dabble.

[bwgood77]

And yet you've posted in the most hated suns thread. We all dabble.

Yeah, saying it's an odd thread...I don't really hate any Suns...though Brandon Knight was super frustrating. I did kind of hate Horry as an opponent though.

That's in part due to frustration of that exciting team we had the year before winning 48 games, to replacing exciting players with him....and the start of our demise into hell.

However, I guess the nice silver lining of having him is that we ended up with Booker because our team struggled and got the 13th pick. Being any better we probably don't get him.

[Revived]

There was a thread about Ayton on the Blazers reddit and I thought the responses from their fans looked pretty similar to what was said about Ayton frequently while he was here;

Absolutely feeble. His effort level is dog **** too.

The kid just doesn’t want to play basketball

I hate him. He’s worse than Whiteside. At least Whiteside hunted blocks, this bum just stands there.

My favorite moment from the game (besides Shaedon’s skywalking), was when the Jazz scored and the ball fell right into Ayton’s hands— but instead of walking 5 feet to inbound the ball he just casually tosses it in the direction of his teammates who aren’t any closes to the end line. One of which was a visibly annoyed Deni Avdija. Would love to see that lowlight again.

As an Arizona grad who was there when he kicked ass, and was stoked when he went to the Blazers, gotta say I’m bummer how lousy it has been.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ripcity/s/eMPc1Jna5F

[JRoy]

The fact that Ayton is ass is not helped by his delusion to the contrary.

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[Calvin Klein]

The fact that Ayton is ass is not helped by his delusion to the contrary.

This is one of biggest reasons he gets so much hate. He compared himself to shaq and calls himself dominayton

[lilfishi22]

The fact that Ayton is ass is not helped by his delusion to the contrary.

This is one of biggest reasons he gets so much hate. He compared himself to shaq and calls himself dominayton

"Calls" himself?

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[SkyBill40]

You don't give yourself a nickname but if you have the audacity to do so, you'd better back it up with your play... else you look like a jackass your entire career.

Well done, Deandre. Well done.

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[sashaturiaf]

Ayton is a disappointment and always will be. But I would undo that trade in an instant. Hes at least an athletic 7 footer that can give you 15 points in his sleep and Camara is a solid contributor too.

Sure Ayton is overpaid but it beats paying Beal $50m to stand in the corner. Camara could have done that for 1/50th the salary and done a better job since he's got the better role player skills.

I don't blame Beal for this at all, it's all on front office not putting guys in positions to succeed. It's like the KD trade came with a complementary lobotomy for the entire FO, just baffling move after baffling move probably expecting KD to cover for any deficiencies on the roster.