Bears 9.0: Thomas Brown HC audition, offseason/draft prep

[Dresden]

Everything I've heard about Belichick is that "he takes all the fun out of football". Players say it's draining playing under him. He's lousy when it comes to interpersonal skills. And his player evaluations have opened him to a lot of second guessing. He whiffed on a number of FRP's, and he supposedly was telling Kraft to get rid of Brady for several years before they finally did.

Not to mention that I wonder how much he's got left in the tank. Apparently he interviewed for the job at UNC this week, so he might be off the table pretty soon anyway.

[fleet]

After making the original mistake this summer of keeping Eberflus, wanting to fire a coach for many of these issues doesn’t absolve Poles from not getting on top of the coach to fix any of this in real time while Poles was forced to keep the coach around. It’s not rocket science.

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[Dresden]

Looks like Hicks, Bates, and Roschon are all likely to miss Sunday's game. It will be interesting to see how the defense changes with Washington now doing the play calling.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Looks like Hicks, Bates, and Roschon are all likely to miss Sunday's game. It will be interesting to see how the defense changes with Washington now doing the play calling.

Ouch, no Roschon?

[fleet]

No. 1, he’ll be looking for organizational alignment — in particular between the GM and head coach. And then he’ll be looking for recognition from the organization of the things that have gone wrong, and a willingness to fix them.”

The more I over-analyze this Breer quote, the more it sounds like BJ is asking for the Bears to align him with a new incoming GM that he approves of in order to come aboard.

[Dresden]

Looks like Hicks, Bates, and Roschon are all likely to miss Sunday's game. It will be interesting to see how the defense changes with Washington now doing the play calling.

Ouch, no Roschon?

Still in concussion protocol. I hate that about football- guys are putting their brains in jeopardy by how hard they play.

[Jeffster81]

No. 1, he’ll be looking for organizational alignment — in particular between the GM and head coach. And then he’ll be looking for recognition from the organization of the things that have gone wrong, and a willingness to fix them.”

The more I over-analyze this Breer quote, the more it sounds like BJ is asking for the Bears to align him with a new incoming GM that he approves of in order to come aboard.

Johnson was most certainly talking about the Bears. I'm not sure he needs a new GM as much he wants the GM and the HC to be on the same page. Johnson wants the Bears job but obviously he has concerns that only the Bears can answered. Can they? Don't know.

[biggestbullsfan]

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[fleet]

No. 1, he’ll be looking for organizational alignment — in particular between the GM and head coach. And then he’ll be looking for recognition from the organization of the things that have gone wrong, and a willingness to fix them.”

The more I over-analyze this Breer quote, the more it sounds like BJ is asking for the Bears to align him with a new incoming GM that he approves of in order to come aboard.

Johnson was most certainly talking about the Bears. I'm not sure he needs a new GM as much he wants the GM and the HC to be on the same page. Johnson wants the Bears job but obviously he has concerns that only the Bears can answered. Can they? Don't know.

In the NFL organizational context, “alignment” term has typically been used in a synced career sense, more than a synced philosophical sense.

[Dresden]

The more I over-analyze this Breer quote, the more it sounds like BJ is asking for the Bears to align him with a new incoming GM that he approves of in order to come aboard.

Johnson was most certainly talking about the Bears. I'm not sure he needs a new GM as much he wants the GM and the HC to be on the same page. Johnson wants the Bears job but obviously he has concerns that only the Bears can answered. Can they? Don't know.

In the NFL organizational context, “alignment” term has typically been used in a synced career sense, more than a synced philosophical sense.

How exactly would that work? Poles will be the one mainly interviewing him. Do you go into an interview asking him if he can be replaced before you accept the job?

[patryk7754]

I'm interested to see how isaac guerendo. I wanted to draft him and before we signed Swift, I thought he had the potential to start for us. If i remember right, he ran like a 4.2/3 40 and is big and physical. He would have been very useful for us this season. I'd still be willing to rade a late round pick for him but I doubt that would happen.

I think we should still draft/sign a bigger back for short yardage/goal line situation. I'm watching the Big 12 Championship and Skattebo would be perfect. I would have him be our FB. But, after this game, he probably goes too high for me. I think my ideal back would be a big physical back who can block. Have him be our short yard guy at RB and throw him in at FB to block. Bonus points if he is a decent pass catcher but that player will probably go in the 1st 4 round and I wouldn't draft a RB3 until the 5th at the earliest. Finding a TE3 that can fill this role would work as well.

[TheStig]

No. 1, he’ll be looking for organizational alignment — in particular between the GM and head coach. And then he’ll be looking for recognition from the organization of the things that have gone wrong, and a willingness to fix them.”

The more I over-analyze this Breer quote, the more it sounds like BJ is asking for the Bears to align him with a new incoming GM that he approves of in order to come aboard.

Johnson was most certainly talking about the Bears. I'm not sure he needs a new GM as much he wants the GM and the HC to be on the same page. Johnson wants the Bears job but obviously he has concerns that only the Bears can answered. Can they? Don't know.

or maybe he's unsure about answering to some boob that turned down a HOF coach because of some personal grudge and is not a football guy but butting into football ops to lead the search.

[dice]

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[fleet]

The more I over-analyze this Breer quote, the more it sounds like BJ is asking for the Bears to align him with a new incoming GM that he approves of in order to come aboard.

Johnson was most certainly talking about the Bears. I'm not sure he needs a new GM as much he wants the GM and the HC to be on the same page. Johnson wants the Bears job but obviously he has concerns that only the Bears can answered. Can they? Don't know.

or maybe he's unsure about answering to some boob that turned down a HOF coach because of some personal grudge and is not a football guy but butting into football ops to lead the search.

It sounded like he was at least expressing that he wanted Warren to make some assurances and FO changes before he agreed to an interview. Which effectively takes the Bears out of the running unless Poles is fired after the season, and/or the owner agrees to step off. This was a brutal statement that is kind of going under the radar. Like, the Bears should be massively embarrassed at this report if Breer was accurate. BJ just dunked on the Bears, and screamed in their face. It’s hard for me to believe anyway that the Bears would be willing to do anything of what BJ is asking without a massive attitude adjustment, capitulation, and mea culpa that seems impossible for them.

[fleet]

The betting markets favor Kingsbury the most. FWIW, his game coaching is on point. If we had him we’d be over .500 right now.

Losing record in college, losing record in the pros. Maybe he'd good and just needs the right opportunity, but I am not convinced.

He doesn’t seem like the leader of men/program leaderish dude they have been rumored to say they are looking for. Which surprises me actually if they would be looking for that type. Which means, keep Kingsbury in your thoughts for next year. The Bears aren’t hiring anyone with too much testosterone for these people to deal with. The Harbaugh story is so disheartening. And Ben Johnson is getting a little too demanding as well. Can’t be having that. Vrabel? I’d be amazed. Unless again, George McCaskey completely changed who he is as an old man. They’re likely praying for an excuse to keep TB. And I will be pulling around with the TB bandwagon to load up if it happens, because I don’t believe the Bears are constitutionally able to do better than that (provided TB wins some games here). The Bears being all of the sudden not the Bears anymore, that’s to be seen to believe.

[Dresden]

Oregon is looking like the best team in college football. Their QB is pretty darn good, and I like Tez Johnson- he would be a super quick slot receiver to have. Something we're currently lacking since Mooney left.

[Chi town]

Tomorrow will be must watch Bears tv. Hoping Bears come out sharp and CW and TB have some chemistry on the sideline.

Will be refreshing to not have play not to lose Flus out there. I think TB will be playing to win and attack.

[TheStig]

Johnson was most certainly talking about the Bears. I'm not sure he needs a new GM as much he wants the GM and the HC to be on the same page. Johnson wants the Bears job but obviously he has concerns that only the Bears can answered. Can they? Don't know.

or maybe he's unsure about answering to some boob that turned down a HOF coach because of some personal grudge and is not a football guy but butting into football ops to lead the search.

It sounded like he was at least expressing that he wanted Warren to make some assurances and FO changes before he agreed to an interview. Which effectively takes the Bears out of the running unless Poles is fired after the season, and/or the owner agrees to step off. This was a brutal statement that is kind of going under the radar. Like, the Bears should be massively embarrassed at this report if Breer was accurate. BJ just dunked on the Bears, and screamed in their face. It’s hard for me to believe anyway that the Bears would be willing to do anything of what BJ is asking without a massive attitude adjustment, capitulation, and mea culpa that seems impossible for them.

I doubt a first time to be HC is calling for a GM that isn't bad to be fired. Probably some assurances that they'll get him a line.

That being said, if he is actually asking that, he's way out of his league. That's something a Shannahan or Harbaugh can get. There is a Ben Johnson all the time. We had one in Nagy.

[fleet]

or maybe he's unsure about answering to some boob that turned down a HOF coach because of some personal grudge and is not a football guy but butting into football ops to lead the search.

It sounded like he was at least expressing that he wanted Warren to make some assurances and FO changes before he agreed to an interview. Which effectively takes the Bears out of the running unless Poles is fired after the season, and/or the owner agrees to step off. This was a brutal statement that is kind of going under the radar. Like, the Bears should be massively embarrassed at this report if Breer was accurate. BJ just dunked on the Bears, and screamed in their face. It’s hard for me to believe anyway that the Bears would be willing to do anything of what BJ is asking without a massive attitude adjustment, capitulation, and mea culpa that seems impossible for them.

I doubt a first time to be HC is calling for a GM that isn't bad to be fired. Probably some assurances that they'll get him a line.

That being said, if he is actually asking that, he's way out of his league. That's something a Shannahan or Harbaugh can get. There is a Ben Johnson all the time. We had one in Nagy.

On the contrary, imo it is super impressive for Ben Johnson is he is uncompromising and demanding. People taking umbrage are missing what it says. He’s got balls, good ones do.

Assuming Breer is accurate, BJ is gonna go to team that cleared the deck, or he’s staying in Detroit. He’s got the leverage and reputation to go to the team that has the best layout for his success that he is comfortable with. You mention the top coaches in the NFL, this guy is going be paid like them fwiw, so whatever that says to you. Now, maybe he does something stupid on the way to the Super bowlthat damaged his rep, but if he actually comes to the market with a Superbowl ring on his hand and looks good doing it? He is calling his shot.

[Dresden]

It sounded like he was at least expressing that he wanted Warren to make some assurances and FO changes before he agreed to an interview. Which effectively takes the Bears out of the running unless Poles is fired after the season, and/or the owner agrees to step off. This was a brutal statement that is kind of going under the radar. Like, the Bears should be massively embarrassed at this report if Breer was accurate. BJ just dunked on the Bears, and screamed in their face. It’s hard for me to believe anyway that the Bears would be willing to do anything of what BJ is asking without a massive attitude adjustment, capitulation, and mea culpa that seems impossible for them.

I doubt a first time to be HC is calling for a GM that isn't bad to be fired. Probably some assurances that they'll get him a line.

That being said, if he is actually asking that, he's way out of his league. That's something a Shannahan or Harbaugh can get. There is a Ben Johnson all the time. We had one in Nagy.

On the contrary, imo it is super impressive for Ben Johnson is he is uncompromising and demanding. People taking umbrage are missing what it says. He’s got balls, good ones do.

Assuming Breer is accurate, BJ is gonna go to team that cleared the deck, or he’s staying in Detroit. He’s got the leverage and reputation to go to the team that has the best layout for his success that he is comfortable with. You mention the top coaches in the NFL, this guy is going be paid like them fwiw, so whatever that says to you. Now, maybe he does something stupid on the way to the Super bowlthat damaged his rep, but if he actually comes to the market with a Superbowl ring on his hand and looks good doing it? He is calling his shot.

And what better opportunity could he get than the Bears? I can't think of any other team likely to looking for a HC that is better prepared to win than Chicago right now.

I think this is the year for him to leave, if he's going to do it. Detroit is about as good as they'll ever be. It can only go down from here, and then he may not be quite as in demand.