PG: That Sucked

[HEZI]

Boston gave up 120 to this very same team just a few nights ago. They let them shoot 20-39 from 3. We gave up 18-36 to them from three. Difference is Boston scored 130 and we scored 111. Boston is also getting torched by Memphis as we speak.

But yes sure it’s Thibs and scheme lmao. If we shoot better and make some free throws, we win even without KAT and our poor defenders.

Tom's defense is built to protect the paint and you get three point shots as a result of it, since he's been here we have done this.


Opponent 3 point attempts

This season - 21st
2023-2024 - 12th
2022-2023 - 27th
2021-2022 - 24th
2020-2021 - 21st
2019-2020 - 21st



In a league going more towards the 3 ball and there being so much variance with the shot the last thing you should want is a basketball mind that thinks protecting the paint is more important than giving up threes. His schemes suck at limiting threes, and I would have thought people would start waking up to that by now. How many more times are we going to have a team blitzkrieg us from three? It's why the Pacers gave us so much trouble last season.

We overhelp and guys sink down to stop the drive on virtually every possession, it's literally 1 screen and a three half the time and it's a wide open three.

But every team is giving up 3s in today’s NBA because every team shoots a high volume of 3s and when you try to shut that down, teams that have the versatility and attacking guards and wings like Detroit and Memphis does, will just punish you inside. That’s why you see Boston shooting 60 3s a game now because they just want to out shoot you, not even trying to defend you in the half court. The way teams are spreading the court, there is no team defense anymore. It’s up to individual defenders to have the ability and awareness and IQ to know how to defend in space because they all have to nowadays and it’s a lot of space to cover so you will have to give up something. Just have to rely on the IQ and ability of your individuals to know how to react to the offense and step up when they need to

[TKKnicks1]

Joker put up 56/16/8 and the Nuggets still lost...... To the Wizards. This makes me feel better about tonight loss.

[knicksNOTslick]

We would have won with Brunson if he was100% and had Mikal not killed some of the runs. The rotation also sucked. Kolek should've spelled Brunson some minutes in the 2nd half. There was also some issues when the bench came in because some of the lineups probably have never played together.

Not really mad at the loss. Thibs should've just sat Brunson this game and looked ahead for the Atlanta game. Let the young players play. But that's not Thibs.

[HEZI]

Nuggets lost to the Wizards and gave up 122 points

The Wizards! But y’all telling me coaches are out there coaching defense and better than Thibs. Jokic with a 56 point near triple double and they still lost

The Wizards!

[robillionaire]

Precautionary load management for the upcoming cup playoff game

Y’all better hope like hell we don’t win the chip and hang the first banner in 51 years or it’s judgement day for all anti-thibs infidels

We got Maximilien ROBespierre in here getting the guillotine ready for all the haters

rob is CEO of United Thibscare, he's on shaky ground.

Unimportant regular season game, championships are not won in early December, I will reserve judgement until mid December when it really counts

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Boston gave up 120 to this very same team just a few nights ago. They let them shoot 20-39 from 3. We gave up 18-36 to them from three. Difference is Boston scored 130 and we scored 111. Boston is also getting torched by Memphis as we speak.

But yes sure it’s Thibs and scheme lmao. If we shoot better and make some free throws, we win even without KAT and our poor defenders.

Tom's defense is built to protect the paint and you get three point shots as a result of it, since he's been here we have done this.


Opponent 3 point attempts

This season - 21st
2023-2024 - 12th
2022-2023 - 27th
2021-2022 - 24th
2020-2021 - 21st
2019-2020 - 21st



In a league going more towards the 3 ball and there being so much variance with the shot the last thing you should want is a basketball mind that thinks protecting the paint is more important than giving up threes. His schemes suck at limiting threes, and I would have thought people would start waking up to that by now. How many more times are we going to have a team blitzkrieg us from three? It's why the Pacers gave us so much trouble last season.

We overhelp and guys sink down to stop the drive on virtually every possession, it's literally 1 screen and a three half the time and it's a wide open three.

But every team is giving up 3s in today’s NBA because every team shoots a high volume of 3s and when you try to shut that down, teams that have the versatility and attacking guards and wings like Detroit and Memphis does, will just punish you inside. That’s why you see Boston shooting 60 3s a game now because they just want to out shoot you, not even trying to defend you in the half court. The way teams are spreading the court, there is no team defense anymore. It’s up to individual defenders to have the ability and awareness and IQ to know how to defend in space because they all have to nowadays and it’s a lot of space to cover so you will have to give up something. Just have to rely on the IQ and ability of your individuals to know how to react to the offense and step up when they need to

We are always among the slowest paced teams and even then we are routinely among the bottom of the league when it comes to teams shooting threes, the problem now is that the volume of threes league wide is increasing among all teams, and the variance of the shot means that if you're fine with giving up a lot of them you're going to have nights where teams go ballistic from three. His scheme treats every team essentially the same, we came out and were going under screens against Cade in the first half even though he was proving he could make them, we were sinking to protect the paint and leaving Beasley wide open because the paint is more important than perimeter. If the coach is telling you to do this you're going to do it, the players IQs don't matter if the coach has spent the summer, training camp and first 22 games drilling it into your head to help and protect the lane.



Just stop and think about this, we are 28th in pace in the league, yet 9th in opponent threes made. What he's doing isn't working, and as more teams take more and more threes it's going to get worse. This is exacerbated by the fact the guys are playing obscene amounts of minutes already.

[HEZI]

Tom's defense is built to protect the paint and you get three point shots as a result of it, since he's been here we have done this.


Opponent 3 point attempts

This season - 21st
2023-2024 - 12th
2022-2023 - 27th
2021-2022 - 24th
2020-2021 - 21st
2019-2020 - 21st



In a league going more towards the 3 ball and there being so much variance with the shot the last thing you should want is a basketball mind that thinks protecting the paint is more important than giving up threes. His schemes suck at limiting threes, and I would have thought people would start waking up to that by now. How many more times are we going to have a team blitzkrieg us from three? It's why the Pacers gave us so much trouble last season.

We overhelp and guys sink down to stop the drive on virtually every possession, it's literally 1 screen and a three half the time and it's a wide open three.

But every team is giving up 3s in today’s NBA because every team shoots a high volume of 3s and when you try to shut that down, teams that have the versatility and attacking guards and wings like Detroit and Memphis does, will just punish you inside. That’s why you see Boston shooting 60 3s a game now because they just want to out shoot you, not even trying to defend you in the half court. The way teams are spreading the court, there is no team defense anymore. It’s up to individual defenders to have the ability and awareness and IQ to know how to defend in space because they all have to nowadays and it’s a lot of space to cover so you will have to give up something. Just have to rely on the IQ and ability of your individuals to know how to react to the offense and step up when they need to

We are always among the slowest paced teams and even then we are routinely among the bottom of the league when it comes to teams shooting threes, the problem now is that the volume of threes league wide is increasing among all teams, and the variance of the shot means that if you're fine with giving up a lot of them you're going to have nights where teams go ballistic from three. His scheme treats every team essentially the same, we came out and were going under screens against Cade in the first half even though he was proving he could make them, we were sinking to protect the paint and leaving Beasley wide open because the paint is more important than perimeter. If the coach is telling you to do this you're going to do it, the players IQs don't matter if the coach has spent the summer, training camp and first 22 games drilling it into your head to help and protect the lane.



Just stop and think about this, we are 28th in pace in the league, yet 9th in opponent threes made. What he's doing isn't working, and as more teams take more and more threes it's going to get worse. This is exacerbated by the fact the guys are playing obscene amounts of minutes already.

Bro it doesn’t matter. Look at what Brunson does to teams who don’t protect the paint. The very same scheme you talk about that we don’t use is the same scheme that others use which has Brunson living in the paint and being able to do what he does. So just look at it from our offensive perspective what happens when you don’t do that, then you are getting dissected in the middle. And when they do send the help defense we get the open looks. You are getting dissected one way or another, just better hope to have a better offense to counter. That’s the modern NBA

[3toheadmelo]

Seriously, playing down to to the competition is insane to me after last year's team.

Miss my January Knicks badly!

I don’t know ball

Yep!

[Capn'O]

Get well soon KAT.

Thibs obsession with staying 2 TMacs ahead of the opponent just had its first casualties.

[robillionaire]

We should have traded for Donovan Mitchell. Now the cavs are 21-3 far and away the best team in the nba. Discuss

[3toheadmelo]

When the Thibemberg trials begin, you will be one of the first to go for your crimes against Knicks humanity. Why does he need to rest, sir?

Precautionary load management for the upcoming cup playoff game

Y’all better hope like hell we don’t win the chip and hang the first banner in 51 years or it’s judgement day for all anti-thibs infidels

We got Maximilien ROBespierre in here getting the guillotine ready for all the haters

I stand with rob

[3toheadmelo]

We should have traded for Donovan Mitchell. Now the cavs are 21-3 far and away the best team in the nba. Discuss

Mitchell, Brunson, Randle would’ve been our version of the Miami big 3!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

But every team is giving up 3s in today’s NBA because every team shoots a high volume of 3s and when you try to shut that down, teams that have the versatility and attacking guards and wings like Detroit and Memphis does, will just punish you inside. That’s why you see Boston shooting 60 3s a game now because they just want to out shoot you, not even trying to defend you in the half court. The way teams are spreading the court, there is no team defense anymore. It’s up to individual defenders to have the ability and awareness and IQ to know how to defend in space because they all have to nowadays and it’s a lot of space to cover so you will have to give up something. Just have to rely on the IQ and ability of your individuals to know how to react to the offense and step up when they need to

We are always among the slowest paced teams and even then we are routinely among the bottom of the league when it comes to teams shooting threes, the problem now is that the volume of threes league wide is increasing among all teams, and the variance of the shot means that if you're fine with giving up a lot of them you're going to have nights where teams go ballistic from three. His scheme treats every team essentially the same, we came out and were going under screens against Cade in the first half even though he was proving he could make them, we were sinking to protect the paint and leaving Beasley wide open because the paint is more important than perimeter. If the coach is telling you to do this you're going to do it, the players IQs don't matter if the coach has spent the summer, training camp and first 22 games drilling it into your head to help and protect the lane.



Just stop and think about this, we are 28th in pace in the league, yet 9th in opponent threes made. What he's doing isn't working, and as more teams take more and more threes it's going to get worse. This is exacerbated by the fact the guys are playing obscene amounts of minutes already.

Bro it doesn’t matter. Look at what Brunson does to teams who don’t protect the paint. The very same scheme you talk about that we don’t use is the same scheme that others use which has Brunson living in the paint and being able to do what he does. So just look at it from our offensive perspective what happens when you don’t do that, then you are getting dissected in the middle. And when they do send the help defense we get the open looks. You are getting dissected one way or another, just better hope to have a better offense to counter. That’s the modern NBA

Modern NBA defenses switch more than we do, the Celtics switch, they don't just drop against everyone, they scheme and play based on matchups. They put Jrue on guys and let Horford/Kristaps defend the worst shooter in the lineup, we don't do any of that, we have a basic offense and a very basic defense. The Celtics are 13th in the NBA when it comes to opponent threes made, we are 22nd. We don't do any of that, we guard your center with our center and the extent of that is hedging and recovering. How you protect the paint matters, we overhelp, it's why Hart keeps getting caught in no man's land, because he's sinking to stunt and recovery when another coach would tell him to stay with the shooter. Early in that first half we were still playing drop even though Cade was making mid-range pullups at the time, you meet a ball handler like that at the level or just fat out switch and live with it.


Again, we keep giving up threes at a high rate with Tom as our coach, that problem is going to get worse and worse as teams continue to take more and more of the threes.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

We should have traded for Donovan Mitchell. Now the cavs are 21-3 far and away the best team in the nba. Discuss

We should have hired Kenny Atkinson, they are 21-3 because they got rid of the rockhead (who outcoached Tom tonight) that was steering the ship.

[TKKnicks1]

They created this stupid NBA cup for perennial losers like the Knicks so they can also get the feeling of holding up a shiny gold object. Guess this is what we're striving for now.

[robillionaire]

We should have traded for Donovan Mitchell. Now the cavs are 21-3 far and away the best team in the nba. Discuss

We should have hired Kenny Atkinson, they are 21-3 because they got rid of the rockhead (who outcoached Tom tonight) that was steering the ship.

It has nothing to do with him. 0 credit. The players are just that good. You or I could coach the Cavs to 21-3 just by telling Donovan Mitchell to go out there and dominate. We didn’t get him because Leon didn’t want to give up no J and 2 firsts so we gave 5 firsts for Mikilikina instead. Fire Leon

[robillionaire]

They created this stupid NBA cup for perennial losers like the Knicks so they can also get the feeling of holding up a shiny gold object. Guess this is what we're striving for now.

Only one team has ever won it and it was the Lakers one of the greatest winning franchises and they hung up a banner and had a medal ceremony. This is the elite company I want to be a part of!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

We should have traded for Donovan Mitchell. Now the cavs are 21-3 far and away the best team in the nba. Discuss

We should have hired Kenny Atkinson, they are 21-3 because they got rid of the rockhead (who outcoached Tom tonight) that was steering the ship.

It has nothing to do with him. 0 credit. The players are just that good. You or I could coach the Cavs to 21-3 just by telling Donovan Mitchell to go out there and dominate. We didn’t get him because Leon didn’t want to give up no J and 2 firsts so we gave 5 firsts for Mikilikina instead. Fire Leon

rob, this only works on those that don't know your game, you can't trick me because I am familiar with your game. However








Are you now saying you'd rather have Donovan than KAT? Because there's no way to get KAT if the picks go out to get Donovan and the money doesn't work either.

[robillionaire]

We should have hired Kenny Atkinson, they are 21-3 because they got rid of the rockhead (who outcoached Tom tonight) that was steering the ship.

It has nothing to do with him. 0 credit. The players are just that good. You or I could coach the Cavs to 21-3 just by telling Donovan Mitchell to go out there and dominate. We didn’t get him because Leon didn’t want to give up no J and 2 firsts so we gave 5 firsts for Mikilikina instead. Fire Leon

rob, this only works on those that don't know your game, you can't trick me because I am familiar with your game. However








Are you now saying you'd rather have Donovan than KAT? Because there's no way to get KAT if the picks go out to get Donovan.

We traded 5 firsts for Mikilikina and still got KAT plus the OG package before that and still got KAT but we couldn’t have traded 2 for Donovan and still got KAT?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

It has nothing to do with him. 0 credit. The players are just that good. You or I could coach the Cavs to 21-3 just by telling Donovan Mitchell to go out there and dominate. We didn’t get him because Leon didn’t want to give up no J and 2 firsts so we gave 5 firsts for Mikilikina instead. Fire Leon

rob, this only works on those that don't know your game, you can't trick me because I am familiar with your game. However








Are you now saying you'd rather have Donovan than KAT? Because there's no way to get KAT if the picks go out to get Donovan.

We traded 5 firsts for Mikilikina and still got KAT plus the OG package before that and still got KAT but we couldn’t have traded 2 for Donovan and still got KAT?

No, because Ainge wasn't doing it for two picks, that's just your made up number to make the deal work. And the money doesn't work, Donovan is a $50 million per season man now. I'm glad to know you are okay with KAT getting injured due to too many minutes, and you also want Donovan over him, thanks for showing your true Louisville colors.