Game Thread – Grizzlies @ Celtics – Sat. 8:00PM, Dec. 7, 2024

[ConstableGeneva]

As they should. It works. It's not gonna work every night obviously.

They won't shoot this poorly in a 7-game series.

They really will though, if they play like they did tonight, and are defended in the same manner.

Tonight we saw something like the '22-23 frontrunners who, when faced against a good, disciplined opponent, fell behind, lost its rhythm, and knew little else but to quasi desperately chuck threes.

From early on, we played like were defeated. It's not that there wasn't any effort, but there didn't seem to be any leadership IMO. Grizz defense gave us a tough time and our answer was to 'just keep shooting' and hope to grab the rebound when applicable. That will not cut it come the playoffs.

On the plus side, we were somehow still in it 'til the end despite the officiating.

I don't think it's the whole team that took more than usual. It was just Jrue. And maybe KP (relative to last season). Daring Jrue to take wide open threes isn't a sound strategy imo. He's a really good corner shooter who's having a down start to the season.

They needed to adjust to how they guarded JJJ. He feasted in the 4th as Mitchell did the other game. And like you said, despite all that we were in it til the end.

[threrf23]

I don't think it's the whole team that took more than usual. It was just Jrue. And maybe KP (relative to last season). Daring Jrue to take wide open threes isn't a sound strategy imo. He's a really good corner shooter who's having a down start to the season.

They needed to adjust to how they guarded JJJ. He feasted in the 4th as Mitchell did the other game. And like you said, despite all that we were in it til the end.

I thought it was the whole team, maybe the whole team except Jaylen; and it's not that they took more than usual per se, it was....idk, I at least touched on it previously.

Our guys just looked defeated. It's easy to blame shots not falling, but rhythm/poise/confidence play into that. If the other team is in control and you feel defeated, unprepared, or just not good enough, usually your shots won't fall.

For the record I agree that we wouldn't shoot as poorly in a seven game series, but that's only because we wouldn't play as poorly come the playoffs (if last season was any indication).

[ConstableGeneva]

I don't think it's the whole team that took more than usual. It was just Jrue. And maybe KP (relative to last season). Daring Jrue to take wide open threes isn't a sound strategy imo. He's a really good corner shooter who's having a down start to the season.

They needed to adjust to how they guarded JJJ. He feasted in the 4th as Mitchell did the other game. And like you said, despite all that we were in it til the end.

I thought it was the whole team, maybe the whole team except Jaylen; and it's not that they took more than usual per se, it was....idk, I at least touched on it previously.

Our guys just looked defeated. It's easy to blame shots not falling, but rhythm/poise/confidence play into that. If the other team is in control and you feel defeated, unprepared, or just not good enough, usually your shots won't fall.

For the record I agree that we wouldn't shoot as poorly in a seven game series, but that's only because we wouldn't play as poorly come the playoffs (if last season was any indication).

We also won't play B2Bs and 5-in-7s.

[jfs1000d]

18-60 is an abject joke. I was at fridays game. Just ridiculous over reliance on 3s.

They took 60 3s with hauser playing 9 minutes.

Team shot 40 percent t from floor on 105 shots.

Here is thing. You have to find alternative ways to score efficiently. 121 points on 105 shots and 60 3s? That just isn’t great.

They hit 18 3s, which is a lot, but it took them way too many shots. If the shots aren’t good. Don’t just throw away the possession. They need to be able to win games when the 3-ball isn’t producing efficiently.


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[Fierce1]

18-60 is an abject joke. I was at fridays game. Just ridiculous over reliance on 3s.

They took 60 3s with hauser playing 9 minutes.

Team shot 40 percent t from floor on 105 shots.

Here is thing. You have to find alternative ways to score efficiently. 121 points on 105 shots and 60 3s? That just isn’t great.

They hit 18 3s, which is a lot, but it took them way too many shots. If the shots aren’t good. Don’t just throw away the possession. They need to be able to win games when the 3-ball isn’t producing efficiently.


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Guess you haven't watched all the Celtic games this season.

Cs have won games where the 3-ball wasn't producing.

[redslastlaugh]

18-60 is an abject joke. I was at fridays game. Just ridiculous over reliance on 3s.

They took 60 3s with hauser playing 9 minutes.

Team shot 40 percent t from floor on 105 shots.

Here is thing. You have to find alternative ways to score efficiently. 121 points on 105 shots and 60 3s? That just isn’t great.

They hit 18 3s, which is a lot, but it took them way too many shots. If the shots aren’t good. Don’t just throw away the possession. They need to be able to win games when the 3-ball isn’t producing efficiently.


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I think 5-in-7 had a lot to do with it. Guys were tired. But I fundamentally agree with you. We’re shooting too many threes, too many low percentage 3PTAs, too many possessions without player movement, too many zero-pass possessions. It’s almost disappointing to watch a game when your teams fires off 60 3PTA.

Even Jordan Walsh who is 20, springy with a 7-3 wingspan and CAN NOT SHOOT has taken like 6 2PTA and 20 3PTA all season. It’s almost like Coach tells them not to cut because they won’t be able to attempt a 3 if they’re inside the 3PT line. I dunno, offense just seems basic and gonna end like 2023 where we attempt 50+ more 3s than our lesser talent opponent, lose, and blame variance.

[ConstableGeneva]

18-60 is an abject joke. I was at fridays game. Just ridiculous over reliance on 3s.

They took 60 3s with hauser playing 9 minutes.

Team shot 40 percent t from floor on 105 shots.

Here is thing. You have to find alternative ways to score efficiently. 121 points on 105 shots and 60 3s? That just isn’t great.

They hit 18 3s, which is a lot, but it took them way too many shots. If the shots aren’t good. Don’t just throw away the possession. They need to be able to win games when the 3-ball isn’t producing efficiently.


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Celtics are 6-1 shooting below 33% from 3.

A one-game sample shouldn't make you change your identity.

[Shak_Celts]

Not getting what you're asking for.

Crunchtime action. Felt like 25 threes by KP.

Wide open, take them. We needed stops.

We needed makes too. KP shooting wasn’t the problem (they weren’t all open), there were multiple offensive issues.

I don’t know what happened to our defense, but I already complained a long time ago. It didn’t look the same as last season but I definitely couldn’t articulate why.

[ConstableGeneva]

Crunchtime action. Felt like 25 threes by KP.

Wide open, take them. We needed stops.

We needed makes too. KP shooting wasn’t the problem (they weren’t all open), there were multiple offensive issues.

I don’t know what happened to our defense, but I already complained a long time ago. It didn’t look the same as last season but I definitely couldn’t articulate why.

Sure, he took one that wasn't open in the 4th. I don't think it was a big deal. Team as a whole took just 9 that wasn't open/wide open (JT majority of them like he often does).

They changed base coverage when KP was out. Now that he's back, I think we've guarded shooters worse with the double bigs (could be a small sample thing). But three main differences have been defense around the rim (improved when KP came back), corner threes (still limit them but no longer best at opponent 3FG%), and transition defense (main problem in this game as Joe also pointed out in his postgame). Poor transition D could be a fatigue thing or so I hope. We were the best at it last season or near the top.