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Post#221 » by tbhawksfan1 » Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:43 am

I kind of like our young trio of JJ / DD / ZR and we have Trae
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Post#222 » by HMFFL » Mon Dec 2, 2024 12:28 am

Hawks rankings

Field Goal Percentage 15th
Free Throw Percentage 14th

This team can get in the top 10 in both. If they do, it's going to be a problem for the East.

The New York Knicks and Chicago Bulls are the only two East teams in the top 10 in both.

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Post#223 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Dec 3, 2024 4:05 am

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Post#224 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Dec 4, 2024 4:41 am

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Post#225 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 10:58 am

After last nights games, the Hawks are currently:

#2 in assists
#2 in steals
#4 in rebounds

....in the NBA

just a few interesting stats to go with our 6 game win streak
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Post#228 » by jayu70 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:51 pm

No winners but all nominees: Dyson, Trae, JJ, Quin

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Post#229 » by jayu70 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 1:53 am

Gotta Love Nance! :lol:
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Post#230 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 12:04 pm

It is so evident that the Hawks are third tier team talent wise. That is why this will take time and development is key to that happening. We have:

All-star tier: Trae

Knocking at the door all-star tier: JJ



Decent starters tier: Hunter / DD

Solid 2nd team tier: CC / OO / Bog

Potential tier: Ris

Deep bench: Gary

This is not a win now team. Everything needs to be geared towards improving this talent situation. Trades, draft and especially development

CC / Nance / Bog are not keepers because of age and contribution.

I only listed 8 players in my tiers because that's really all we have. A lot of work to do to build this team around Trae / JJ / DD / Ris / Hunter
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Post#231 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jan 5, 2025 6:58 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:It is so evident that the Hawks are third tier team talent wise. That is why this will take time and development is key to that happening.

This is not a win now team.



Agree that we are lacking in top end talent.

Disagree we are not a win now team.


We are currently a half game out of 5th place -- with huge wins over the top 3 teams in the conference.

Our issue: we're trying to walk two paths at once.

  • Our top players are all 5+ year vets.
  • But we're giving developmental minutes to flawed players not yet ready for prime time.
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Post#232 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 7:26 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:It is so evident that the Hawks are third tier team talent wise. That is why this will take time and development is key to that happening.

This is not a win now team.



Agree that we are lacking in top end talent.

Disagree we are not a win now team.


We are currently a half game out of 5th place -- with huge wins over the top 3 teams in the conference.

Our issue: we're trying to walk two paths at once.

  • Our top players are all 5+ year vets.
  • But we're giving developmental minutes to flawed players not yet ready for prime time.


What do you think that they can win?
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Post#233 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jan 5, 2025 11:40 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:This is not a win now team.



Jamaaliver wrote:Agree that we are lacking in top end talent.

Disagree we are not a win now team.


tbhawksfan1 wrote:What do you think that they can win?



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Post#234 » by Jamaaliver » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:51 pm

This isn't wrong....

East is pretty open outside the top-2 teams.

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Post#235 » by jayu70 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:03 am

Jamaaliver wrote:This isn't wrong....

East is pretty open outside the top-2 teams.

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Found this little tidbit about Hunter interesting...
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Post#236 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:11 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:This is not a win now team.


IDK, man.

Hawks have shown enough flashes to indicate they are capable of something special.

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Post#237 » by tbhawksfan1 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:40 pm

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tbhawksfan1 wrote:This is not a win now team.


IDK, man.

Hawks have shown enough flashes to indicate they are capable of something special.

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I love what they're doing and I was seeing this potential after the DD trade and drafting Ris #1

When I say win, I mean win it all.

I predicted 46 wins, 10 more than Vegas and have been talking patience and growth. Still am

Now if they want to make a run in the playoffs, I'm all for it

I don't even see a trade out there other than Zeller for a depth player. The only C that might be available that interests me is Poetl and TOR doesn't seem to want to move him. Free agency for centers looks terrible this offseason.

Really need to draft a good one to back up OO
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Post#238 » by jayu70 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:12 pm

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Post#239 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:49 pm

As far as I'm concerned, the Jalen injury changes nothing in the short term.

We plan on competing for a play off spot while developing young players along the way.

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Post#240 » by jayu70 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:57 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:As far as I'm concerned, the Jalen injury changes nothing in the short term.

We plan on competing for a play off spot while developing young players along the way.

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They won't be massive sellers, but they won't be aggressive buyers either. They'll make a trade around the edges like they always do mid-season.

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