Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions

[yb90]

How do we turn Bobby Portis into Naz Reid?

We would still have a lot of the same problems

I'd rather go after Santi Aldma. If the bucks could get a 1st and Ellis back from the Kings. I wouldn't be made at sending them the Kings 1st and the '31 pick from the Bucks. The Grizz are like OKC and Hou but Aldama is looking to get paid this summer. Memphis would probably say no and just try to trade Clarke and Smart this summer.

I think he makes the perfect combo big for this year and next year he could replace Lopez as a starter.

[jakecronus8]

How do we turn Bobby Portis into Naz Reid?

We would still have a lot of the same problems

I'd rather go after Santi Aldma. If the bucks could get a 1st and Ellis back from the Kings. I wouldn't be made at sending them the Kings 1st and the '31 pick from the Bucks. The Grizz are like OKC and Hou but Aldama is looking to get paid this summer. Memphis would probably say no and just try to trade Clarke and Smart this summer.

I think he makes the perfect combo big for this year and next year he could replace Lopez as a starter.

Would Memphis do Portis/PC/31 FRP for Clarke and Santi Claus?

[pifhluk23]

It's amazing that for years I (we) have been saying we need a switchable big because Lopez / Bobby are just not good vs good teams. And yet here we are still trotting these 2 out. Massive failure by Horst.

[ShootingtheJ]

Kings in: Portis, Tyler Smith
Kings out: Keon Ellis, Trey Lyles, 3-2nds
Trailer Blazers in: Marjon, 2- 2nds via Kings
Trailblazers out: Dalano Banton
Pistons in: Trey Lyles, 2nd via Kings
Pistons out: Paul Reed
Bucks in: Keon Ellis, Dalano Banton, Paul Reed
Bucks out: Portis, Smith, Marjon

Kings stay just under the tax. Bucks slide just under the 2nd apron.

Ellis in the new starting SG, Ajax can go find an offensive game in the G League. Banton gives us a quick combo forward with a 9' standing reach that can handle, pass, and now shoots the 3. Reed is a mobile backup center that can shoot the 3 and drive and blocks shots.

[German Athens]

I’m leaning more and more to just reshaping the roster specifically for the Boston matchup.

Yes, Bobby and Brook have their teams they matchup really well against, but neither matches well with Boston. Moving off them could hurt us for other matchups, but Boston is the mountain that has to be climbed.

We desperately need to get quicker in space. I just rewatched the game, and so many of Boston’s buckets weren’t even well executed offensive plays - we were just slow in space and they took advantage with open threes after a single pass or blow-by’s that shouldn’t have been blown-by’s.

Like others, I’m more willing to move Bobby, because Brook is the lynchpin of our rim defense, but I’m willing to deal either or both.


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[raferfenix]

I’m growing concerned that Bobby just won’t net us what he could have a year or two ago.

Other teams can watch these games too.

Will anyone want to give him a fat extension? Or will Bobby be the next mid-tier kind of guy that will experience the wrath of the new CBA?

That’ll be the difference for whether he’s considered more than a stop gap role player on an ending contract.

And our negotiating posture is weak. We need someone more athletic to take those minutes.

[JRoy]

Kings in: Portis, Tyler Smith
Kings out: Keon Ellis, Trey Lyles, 3-2nds
Trailer Blazers in: Marjon, 2- 2nds via Kings
Trailblazers out: Dalano Banton
Pistons in: Trey Lyles, 2nd via Kings
Pistons out: Paul Reed
Bucks in: Keon Ellis, Dalano Banton, Paul Reed
Bucks out: Portis, Smith, Marjon

Kings stay just under the tax. Bucks slide just under the 2nd apron.

Ellis in the new starting SG, Ajax can go find an offensive game in the G League. Banton gives us a quick combo forward with a 9' standing reach that can handle, pass, and now shoots the 3. Reed is a mobile backup center that can shoot the 3 and drive and blocks shots.

Works for POR as long as Marjon is expiring.

[MickeyDavis]

MarJon is expiring. His 5th year option was declined.

[Frank Nova]

Bucks out - Bobby, Pat C, Marjon, 2031 1st

Bucks in - Cam Thomas, DFS

Nets get an expiring Marjon and 2 vets with POs that aren’t considered long term contracts and the coveted 2031 1st.

Bucks get microwave bench scorer in Thomas to alleviate scoring load from big 3 and another switchable small ball 4 in DFS who can knock down stationary 3s. DFS and Prince can rotate riding the hot shooter and spelling Khris to keep Khris more fresh as the season progresses.

I know Thomas is hurt, don’t care. I see ppl saying we don’t need someone like him, I 100% disagree. Dude gets red hot and can light up any team in the league. Having another scoring punch like that makes us insanely dangerous.

Dame/Aj Green/Rollins/Wright
Trent/Cam/Jackson Jr
Khris/Prince/Jackson Jr
Giannis/DFS/Prince
Brook/Giannis

[ShootingtheJ]

Franz Wagner is out for or Cup game Tuesday. That's huge, he's been on an absolute roll.

[slos]

Bucks in Ingram, Kessler
Bucks out Brook, Bobby, Pat, 2031 FRP

Pels in Brook, Bobby
Pels out Ingram

Utah in Pat, MIL 2031 FRP
Utah out Kessler

I can see everybody involved entertaining this idea. Pelicans could feel more comfortable extending in smaller deals Bobby and Brook to surround Zion instead of paying huge money for Ingram who blocks Murphy and Herb. Kessler is doing OK in Utah, but maybe Ainge doesn’t see him as a future starting C and decides to cash in with a juicy future 1st.

Lillard (40)/Green (8)
Jackson (20)/Trent (16)/Green (12)
Middleton (36)/Ingram (8)/Trent (4)
Ingram (28)/Giannis (20)
Giannis (20)/Kessler (28)

I would love that 8 man playoff rotation with Giannis starting and closing games at C. Kessler is needed here as a cheap traditional big for certain matchups and of course to allow Giannis share his time at PF too. Along with Jackson you have two young players that can play some D.

Counting 2024 Giannis now you have elite mid range game with Midds and Ingram. You still surround Giannis with shooters since all Lillard/Midds/Ingram are good high volume 3p shooters and then you have Green and Trent coming from the bench.

On top Bucks avoid the 2nd apron in this deal if you just add a Marjon for any minimum player in the deal.

[jakecronus8]

Would Sacramento be willing to deal Carter in a Bobby deal? Wanted to get Suggs for years before he blew up. Loved DC coming out and I think they have similar profiles

[Butter]

Playing with the trade calculator today.

Is there a deal where the Bucks trade Kris Middleton for Jerami Grant? Grant and Dame are allegedly close. Grant has always been better as a 2nd or 3rd scoring option.

[yb90]

Playing with the trade calculator today.

Is there a deal where the Bucks trade Kris Middleton for Jerami Grant? Grant and Dame are allegedly close. Grant has always been better as a 2nd or 3rd scoring option.

Grant was better when he was a 4th option and played defense. I don't think Grant is an upgrade at all.

[Butter]

Playing with the trade calculator today.

Is there a deal where the Bucks trade Kris Middleton for Jerami Grant? Grant and Dame are allegedly close. Grant has always been better as a 2nd or 3rd scoring option.

Grant was better when he was a 4th option and played defense. I don't think Grant is an upgrade at all.

Well, Jerami is 3 years younger, he's not coming off two ankle surgeries, and he's a good team defender and weak side perimeter shooter.

As a Blazers fan, admittedly, I don't watch a lot of Bucks games, but I'm pretty familiar with Dame. Jerami would help the Bucks.

[yb90]

I know people might not like him but Stewart availability should be checked by Horst. Bring him in as an enforcer and back up big.

I think a 3 team deal with the Pistons and Kings could work. It would take a separate deal to start things off with Bobby and Marjon into the Kings exception spaces.

1st trade

MIL - Out - Portis and Marjon
MIL - In - 15m TPE and draft picks

SAC - Out - future 1st, cut Crowder and Mclaughlin.

2nd trade

MIL - Out - Delon Wright
MIL - In - Keon Ellis and Stewart into TPE

SAC - Out - Lyles
SAC - In - Wright

DET - Out - Stewart
DET - In - Lyles, Sac 1st from the Bucks, '31 rd 2 via Bucks

If I'm the Kings I would see if the Pistons would through Beasley into their other TPE or try to trade them Huerter but they would probably need another 1st to dump that contract.

[engelmartin]

Does anyone know a guy who would defend the post better than Brook? I think we should post a phone number.

[yb90]

Playing with the trade calculator today.

Is there a deal where the Bucks trade Kris Middleton for Jerami Grant? Grant and Dame are allegedly close. Grant has always been better as a 2nd or 3rd scoring option.

Grant was better when he was a 4th option and played defense. I don't think Grant is an upgrade at all.

Well, Jerami is 3 years younger, he's not coming off two ankle surgeries, and he's a good team defender and weak side perimeter shooter.

As a Blazers fan, admittedly, I don't watch a lot of Bucks games, but I'm pretty familiar with Dame. Jerami would help the Bucks.

I get what you are saying but Khris friendship with Giannis will likely over ride Dame's friendship with Grant or any other player. Plus, Grant is not the passer Khris is and the Bucks need all the playmakers they can get.

[ShootingtheJ]

Grant was better when he was a 4th option and played defense. I don't think Grant is an upgrade at all.

Well, Jerami is 3 years younger, he's not coming off two ankle surgeries, and he's a good team defender and weak side perimeter shooter.

As a Blazers fan, admittedly, I don't watch a lot of Bucks games, but I'm pretty familiar with Dame. Jerami would help the Bucks.

I get what you are saying but Khris friendship with Giannis will likely over ride Dame's friendship with Grant or any other player. Plus, Grant is not the passer Khris is and the Bucks need all the playmakers they can get.

Most importantly, Khris is a playoff assassin. That's why he'll retire as a Milwaukee Buck.

[ShootingtheJ]

I know people might not like him but Stewart availability should be checked by Horst. Bring him in as an enforcer and back up big.

I think a 3 team deal with the Pistons and Kings could work. It would take a separate deal to start things off with Bobby and Marjon into the Kings exception spaces.

1st trade

MIL - Out - Portis and Marjon
MIL - In - 15m TPE and draft picks

SAC - Out - future 1st, cut Crowder and Mclaughlin.

2nd trade

MIL - Out - Delon Wright
MIL - In - Keon Ellis and Stewart into TPE

SAC - Out - Lyles
SAC - In - Wright

DET - Out - Stewart
DET - In - Lyles, Sac 1st from the Bucks, '31 rd 2 via Bucks

If I'm the Kings I would see if the Pistons would through Beasley into their other TPE or try to trade them Huerter but they would probably need another 1st to dump that contract.

We can't use a TPE if it puts us back into the 2nd apron. Kings can't use the full MLE, as an exception or a signing, if it puts them over the tax.

I don't believe in Beef Stew's game. I'd rather have Paul Reed.i think Stew only plays over Reed because they're trying to market him to dump that contract.

100% in on the acquisition of Ellis though. Monk as the starter looks permanent, and that has pushed Ellis out of the rotation, despite them being better when Ellis plays.