Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
This team is terrible without KD.
"Now everybody wanna play for the heat and the Lakers? Let's go back to being competitive and going at these peoples!" - Kevin Durant
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
i count the days until when beal will leave this team. unwatchable
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
**** rigged.
Beal took more contact on his finish, no call.
Suggs gets breathed on, call.
Beal took more contact on his finish, no call.
Suggs gets breathed on, call.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
schnakenpopanz wrote:i count the days until when beal will leave this team. unwatchable
Don't hold your breath.
What clown would want 18ppg with poor defense on a max contract?
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
Game over. Another one bites the dust. 

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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
A team with no leaders.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
Too small and can't come up with the rebound.
Unless JJ seriously addresses the lack of size this team is once again a 1st round exit, this is not a championship level roster even with KD.
Unless JJ seriously addresses the lack of size this team is once again a 1st round exit, this is not a championship level roster even with KD.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
SweaterBae wrote:It's the perfect trade when nobody is happy.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
Awful team - awful losses.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
Our defense is horrible.
Booker scrambling on the switch and failed to block out that rebound that would have given us the chance to tie it up.
It's the lack of fundamentals on this team that's killing us.
Booker scrambling on the switch and failed to block out that rebound that would have given us the chance to tie it up.
It's the lack of fundamentals on this team that's killing us.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
We are waaaay too reliant on KD who is injured every other week. I know we should be worse without KD, but we shouldn't be THIS bad without KD, something reeks, this is borderline unwatchable, my motivation for this team is an all time low. I'd rather be rebuilding with young talent and a future with guys who hustle and have a motor.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
Funky Tut wrote:We are waaaay too reliant on KD who is injured every other week. I know we should be worse without KD, but we shouldn't be THIS bad without KD, something reeks, this is borderline unwatchable, my motivation for this team is an all time low. I'd rather be rebuilding with young talent and a future with guys who hustle and have a motor.
No we can't rebuild unless we trade Booker and KD and Ishbia does not have the patience for a full rebuild otherwise he wouldn't have swung so hard for the fences with both the KD and Beal trades.
It's too bad he agreed to the Beal trade as that's 50 million on our roster that prevents us from making any useful trades or signings because if we had another solid starter we wouldn't be this bad.
We don't need an inferior version of Booker whose best days are long past him and is always constantly injured and he forces us to play a 3-4 guard lineup which leaves us absolutely unable to defend the interior because our best PF is an undersized 6'4 Royce O'neal who is not the best interior defender.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
The Suns are as boring to watch as a Devin Booker interview.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
Biff wrote:This team is terrible without KD.
Makes you look back at the 8-1 start, and how close those games were. Maybe it was us winning in spite of how bad the rest of the team is with KD bailing us out each time.
"Sometimes, the dragon wins" #RallyTheValley
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
bwgood77 wrote:Thank God for Tyus Jones tonight.
Suggs looked awesome. Wish we had him.....I remember a certain mod constantly telling me that his offense sucks and that we would be wasting our time trading for him back when he sucked. I also remember this person telling me that Suggs would be a waste to draft when I suggested him.....
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
Slim Charless wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Thank God for Tyus Jones tonight.
Suggs looked awesome. Wish we had him.....I remember a certain mod constantly telling me that his offense sucks and that we would be wasting our time trading for him back when he sucked. I also remember this person telling me that Suggs would be a waste to draft when I suggested him.....
Which mod was that, the idiot. Actually his offense still sucks and he averages 4 ast to 2,8 topg. He's great defensively though. I definitely don't think he's worth $30 million a year like he just got extended for.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
bwgood77 wrote:Slim Charless wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Thank God for Tyus Jones tonight.
Suggs looked awesome. Wish we had him.....I remember a certain mod constantly telling me that his offense sucks and that we would be wasting our time trading for him back when he sucked. I also remember this person telling me that Suggs would be a waste to draft when I suggested him.....
Which mod was that, the idiot. Actually his offense still sucks and he averages 4 ast to 2,8 topg. He's great defensively though. I definitely don't think he's worth $30 million a year like he just got extended for.
With in increase in cap, he is 100% worth the money. His defense and his intensity and how hard he works all make it so. His shot has improved- alot from where it was. That's what I tried to tell you back when he was being benched by them. We should've made the move on that. He could've played with Book and Beal providing the defense we need with the group and a good 3rd option on O.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
King4Day wrote:Biff wrote:This team is terrible without KD.
Makes you look back at the 8-1 start, and how close those games were. Maybe it was us winning in spite of how bad the rest of the team is with KD bailing us out each time.
I mean, his offense was historically good. He had likea 67% TS% and we were squeaking out games. The thing is, I think we have solid role players.
Our biggest issue aside from Booker being in an enormous slump and the turnovers the last two games at least is missing a big guy. Bam and Goga were just too much of a presence inside.
This was our worst game of the 3 though.
But it goes back to the whole trade for KD to begin with. We knew he was old, we knew he was injury prone. We just have to hope he's healthy enough to help us make the playoffs and hopefully make some sort of run.
We need to figure out something for C though too. And we need Book to snap out of his slump and to avoid lazy turnovers from the big 3. We have the 7 time ast/to ratio guy...we should maybe let him handle it a higher percentage of the time.
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
bwgood77 wrote:Slim Charless wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Thank God for Tyus Jones tonight.
Suggs looked awesome. Wish we had him.....I remember a certain mod constantly telling me that his offense sucks and that we would be wasting our time trading for him back when he sucked. I also remember this person telling me that Suggs would be a waste to draft when I suggested him.....
Which mod was that, the idiot. Actually his offense still sucks and he averages 4 ast to 2,8 topg. He's great defensively though. I definitely don't think he's worth $30 million a year like he just got extended for.
I'm tempted to do the deal with Simons more so than BI. The age is like 2 yrs for Simons and both of them are injury prone so I might as well go with the younger dude. I do think BI has more of a higher ceiling tho. We're still talking the same pick swap with either I assume, your 2nd for my 5th?
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Re: Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM
Slim Charless wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Slim Charless wrote:
Suggs looked awesome. Wish we had him.....I remember a certain mod constantly telling me that his offense sucks and that we would be wasting our time trading for him back when he sucked. I also remember this person telling me that Suggs would be a waste to draft when I suggested him.....
Which mod was that, the idiot. Actually his offense still sucks and he averages 4 ast to 2,8 topg. He's great defensively though. I definitely don't think he's worth $30 million a year like he just got extended for.
I'm tempted to do the deal with Simons more so than BI. The age is like 2 yrs for Simons and both of them are injury prone so I might as well go with the younger dude. I do think BI has more of a higher ceiling tho. We're still talking the same pick swap with either I assume, your 2nd for my 5th?
What deal are you talking about? I suppose you offered me a fantasy trade? I will have to look.