Game 23: Phoenix Suns (12-10) @ Orlando Magic (16-9) | Dec 8 | 4:30PM

[Slim Charless]

Which mod was that, the idiot. Actually his offense still sucks and he averages 4 ast to 2,8 topg. He's great defensively though. I definitely don't think he's worth $30 million a year like he just got extended for.

I'm tempted to do the deal with Simons more so than BI. The age is like 2 yrs for Simons and both of them are injury prone so I might as well go with the younger dude. I do think BI has more of a higher ceiling tho. We're still talking the same pick swap with either I assume, your 2nd for my 5th?

What deal are you talking about? I suppose you offered me a fantasy trade? I will have to look.

HAHAHA

That was supposed to be a PM to someone in our league lol. Ignore that......but don't ignore my opinion on Suggs and how I was correct all along about him.

[sunsbg]

They will kill us.

Nah, this is the start of a long stretch of Suns killing other teams.

Unless Durant miraculously returns in a Christmas miracle, I doubt it.

I really thought this will be a start of a winning streak. I also believe in Santa Clause.

Booker and Beal are grumpy dwarfs.

[bwgood77]

I'm tempted to do the deal with Simons more so than BI. The age is like 2 yrs for Simons and both of them are injury prone so I might as well go with the younger dude. I do think BI has more of a higher ceiling tho. We're still talking the same pick swap with either I assume, your 2nd for my 5th?

What deal are you talking about? I suppose you offered me a fantasy trade? I will have to look.

HAHAHA

That was supposed to be a PM to someone in our league lol. Ignore that......but don't ignore my opinion on Suggs and how I was correct all along about him.

btw, your Chiefs find new ways to win every week. No matter the circumstance at the end. It's almost comical.

[Slim Charless]

What deal are you talking about? I suppose you offered me a fantasy trade? I will have to look.

HAHAHA

That was supposed to be a PM to someone in our league lol. Ignore that......but don't ignore my opinion on Suggs and how I was correct all along about him.

btw, your Chiefs find new ways to win every week. No matter the circumstance at the end. It's almost comical.

You guys look good tho. Harbaugh will get you even better. I was shocked in the improvement he made already tbh. Get some weapons for Herbert and you'll probably be beating us. Our OL is a major problem, hopefully the rookie we took will improve.

[SkyBill40]

What deal are you talking about? I suppose you offered me a fantasy trade? I will have to look.

HAHAHA

That was supposed to be a PM to someone in our league lol. Ignore that......but don't ignore my opinion on Suggs and how I was correct all along about him.

btw, your Chiefs find new ways to win every week. No matter the circumstance at the end. It's almost comical.

Typical Chargers. Damn it.

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[sunskerr]

What deal are you talking about? I suppose you offered me a fantasy trade? I will have to look.

HAHAHA

That was supposed to be a PM to someone in our league lol. Ignore that......but don't ignore my opinion on Suggs and how I was correct all along about him.

btw, your Chiefs find new ways to win every week. No matter the circumstance at the end. It's almost comical.

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Yeah Suggs has been really awesome. His offense is pretty spotty but there's no denying he's an elite defender...maybe one of the very best at PG. There's a reason I snagged him in dynasty before the draft even began...I was looking at 23-24 season EPM and Suggs rated very highly defensively. And he made good strides in his shooting so there was a lot to like going into this year.

I think an old Ayton package someone here proposed, and made some rounds in the speculation media was like Suggs + WCJ for Ayton, and that had some positive reception on here. Wish it went that way for us.

[Saberestar]

Damn, we had a great opportunity to grab a W in this one but we literally couldn't stop Suggs in the last 6 minutes of the game. He created a ton of opportunities for them.

Now we have 4 days off and hopefully we can bring back KD, Nurkic and Dunn. For all the bad play that Nurk has done this season he would have been key in this game to stop Goga and M. Wagner.

[sashaturiaf]

I caught about 5 minutes of the game at the start of the 4th and then turned the game off knowing we were going to lose. This team is simply too slow and small to compete. KD covers up a lot with his presence but theres only so much a guy his age can do.

With KD, Nurk and Dunn back I think we're good enough to make the playoffs and maybe win a series but that's our ceiling without a major shakeup ie - a Booker trade since that's the only feasible move out there with our cap situation and lack of picks.

[ChuckS]

I caught about 5 minutes of the game at the start of the 4th and then turned the game off knowing we were going to lose. This team is simply too slow and small to compete. KD covers up a lot with his presence but theres only so much a guy his age can do.

With KD, Nurk and Dunn back I think we're good enough to make the playoffs and maybe win a series but that's our ceiling without a major shakeup ie - a Booker trade since that's the only feasible move out there with our cap situation and lack of picks.

I'm in general agreement with you except for moving Booker. I just do not believe we would get anyone to make us better than we are with him, even when he's slumping.

I'm also less concerned than most with team speed based on NBA.com's findings:

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/speed-distance?dir=D&sort=AVG_SPEED

It has us 24th in average team speed, 20th on offense, and 29th on defense. For perspective, the Wizards are 4th, 4th, and 10th, and Boston is last, last, and 25th. Even at our worst defensive speed, good teams like the Mavs and Denver are below us. It seems to be less a measure of excellence and more a good coach's philosophy and use of team personnel.

I strongly agree about our size problem, however. I just think that with the absence of KD our major problem, that should be resolved by acquiring a good shooting, good to acceptable defender, at power forward. I think that would be infinitely more useful than, what I believe would be more nominal gains, and probably difficult cost, of improving our center position. I know it is a minority opinion and I could be wrong, but a good four would be the only way I would consider moving Beal to the bench. I think they are available and within our reach.

[garrick]

I caught about 5 minutes of the game at the start of the 4th and then turned the game off knowing we were going to lose. This team is simply too slow and small to compete. KD covers up a lot with his presence but theres only so much a guy his age can do.

With KD, Nurk and Dunn back I think we're good enough to make the playoffs and maybe win a series but that's our ceiling without a major shakeup ie - a Booker trade since that's the only feasible move out there with our cap situation and lack of picks.

I'm in general agreement with you except for moving Booker. I just do not believe we would get anyone to make us better than we are with him, even when he's slumping.

I'm also less concerned than most with team speed based on NBA.com's findings:

https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/speed-distance?dir=D&sort=AVG_SPEED

It has us 24th in average team speed, 20th on offense, and 29th on defense. For perspective, the Wizards are 4th, 4th, and 10th, and Boston is last, last, and 25th. Even at our worst defensive speed, good teams like the Mavs and Denver are below us. It seems to be less a measure of excellence and more a good coach's philosophy and use of team personnel.

I strongly agree about our size problem, however. I just think that with the absence of KD our major problem, that should be resolved by acquiring a good shooting, good to acceptable defender, at power forward. I think that would be infinitely more useful than, what I believe would be more nominal gains, and probably difficult cost, of improving our center position. I know it is a minority opinion and I could be wrong, but a good four would be the only way I would consider moving Beal to the bench. I think they are available and within our reach.

Some of us have been screaming about JJ not adding an athletic forward since 2021 but no he prefers undersized stretch forwards like Jae or Royce who have difficulty finishing near the rim and can't defend the paint due to their lack of height or athleticism.

Oso helps a little but he's also undersized and despite his deceptive hops isn't really a strong rebounder, defender or finisher in traffic and he's a rookie so it's hard to rely on him in his first NBA season.